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  • #580855 Reply
    redcurleysue

    I am sorry this is happening to you.

    I agree that his interest in meeting your family points in a certain direction…but some men do not see it that way. So, we only have what they tell us.

    When you see him you can say,”I get the feeling that you are dating other women and do not want to be tied down to one right now”

    Let him talk….that will open up what he is thinking and doing. If it does not match what you want it is time to say goodbye.

    #580857 Reply
    Omi G

    I would not bring up the app again unless you are exclusive and he still has it on his phone and you keep seeing women responding. I would have that condom talk with him, don’t accuse him, I mean that is a very sensitive subject to press on if you are having sex. You could tell him without questioning him how you feel your relationship with him is. Just say it in a few words he can understand..

    Example: “I saw a condom near your ET center (insert day you saw it) and I feel confused. I don’t want to jump to conclusions but if anything is going on I’d like to know because I thought we were more than that.”

    Something a long those lines, heck your health is at risk too, I doubt you want an STD. Wait and listen to what he has to say and HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN PERSON so you can see how he reacts and his expression. AT 4 months, and based off what you told us how he treats you then he should be able to tell you about the condom and his intentions with you. If he is not sure or is not ready for a commitment then it’s up to you to continue dating others yourself or wait around for this man.

    #580863 Reply
    Newbie

    Hi coral, dont get upset about this. That will lead to a bad mindset. What you know is that you have had a lot of fun getting to know each other past 4 months and you like to know where he stands when ot comes to you and him. Thats all. Remember that you like the guy and be open and listen close to what he says. Good luck and i hope it goes well

    #580865 Reply
    Meemee

    Don’t assume the worst yet… give him a chance to explain himself….

    #580866 Reply
    Coral

    @redcurlysue

    Thank you, when I read ‘I’m sorry this is happening to you’ it actually made me tear up a bit. Just from feeling some kind of support/understanding even in one sentence helps so thank you.

    @newbie

    I like what you said about ‘It’s been fun getting to know you the last 4 months’. I think thats a decent way to start the convo. Then perhaps adding in what redcurlysue said about that I get the feeling hes seeing other people so I’m curious as to what his thoughts are on where it’s going. Calm and casual approach.

    @Omi G
    Yeah definitely need the convo to be in person, I dont think I’ll bring up the condom wrapper/bumble message until I’ve heard/seen his response to my initial question.

    #580867 Reply
    Meemee

    How old are you and do you have kids? If not, once a week is not much at all after 4 months ?

    #580868 Reply
    Coral

    @Meemee

    Yeah exactly, I just dont know till we discuss it. That’s why I didn’t react and go in guns blazing. I’ve done that before when I was younger and been very WRONG in a few situations.

    #580869 Reply
    Coral

    @Meemee

    Im 26, hes 29. He has a child which he sees every other weekend. So its not always possible to see him depending on work schedules/if he is seeing his son.

    #580878 Reply
    Nat

    Those of you who think it is ok for him to sleep around because they didn’t discuss exclusivity? Are you out of your f***ing minds? They’ve been dating and seeing each other for 4 months, not 4 days or 4 weeks, this is a full relationship. Bite my ass exclusivity talks. This is the reason to have those talks but if he slept with someone else and felt totally cool about it only because they didn’t talk exclusivity you telling the OP it is all cool and to be expected? Sure just talk to him, believe all the crap he’d feed you and then go on as if nothing happened? How many of you would do that if it happened to you? Where do you think the condom wrapper came from? Not from him watching porn, I can assure you of that.

    I have a lot of respect for the OP. You have great self control. But I feel sorry for you. This happened in such a way in your new relationship. What a dick. Get out now. This guy has no decency and he will do it again, whether you talk exclusivity with him or not. Don’t let this talk nonsense blindfold you.

    #580880 Reply
    CarrieAnne

    Nat, you’re a total B. Don’t know where you came from these past few weeks but it would be nice if you crawled back under the rock you came from. No one said it was OK if he slept with someone else. No one was taking sides. Your advice is bizarre at best and damaging at worst. The OP by her own admission isn’t bringing up the elephant in the room because she is afraid of, in her own words, bursting the bubble… that she set up by not ensuring they were on the same page when she started sleeping with him. We girls are way too trusting with our bodies and hearts. It would help us all to learn from the people posting here with their problems. Men are really pretty simple. They are not women, first of all. So trying to deal with them like we’d deal with other women doesn’t work. And if you are in a place like this, where you are not clear on what’s going on, it’s your responsibility to get clarity or shut your legs if you don’t like the way it’s going!

    #580888 Reply
    alia

    He is obviously seeing other women and if that does not sit well with you, you should stop sleeping with him, and express your concern about seeing the condom wrapper. I don’t think you need to overthink this conversation and I would have it over the phone even. You are not on the same page with him and the sooner you can have the conversation, the better.

    #580936 Reply
    Coral

    Thank you everyone for your advice I really do appreciate it. I need to sit down and talk to him about it in person. Its difficult at the moment, I’m not in a great mindset from being anxious/upset so I feel like at the moment anything I say or ask is going to come from a really insecure place so I’m going to leave it a few days, calm down & see if he messages me. If not, I’ll initiate contact, see when Im seeing him next & go from there. Truth is I DON’T know for sure if he’s doing anything, & I won’t know just from speculating about it. Obviously I don’t have very high hopes with those two bits of ‘evidence’ so to speak, but we’ll see. Like I said, I have pointed the finger & been wrong before.

    #580951 Reply
    Tallspicy

    You could Rory raye this by expressing something like “I feel confused and upset. I found a condom rapper and I saw bumble come up on the phone. I do not want to be in a relationship that is not exclusive at this point. Is there something I should know?” Notice you never use the word you. But, honestly, the signals are not in your favor and I think you need to consider what you will do if is not only seeing you.

    #580953 Reply
    Hannah

    I very rarely agree with Nat but in this situation I do! I would have freaked out if I found a condom wrapper and the guy was having unprotected sex with me. There’s no way I’d beat around the bush in this situation.

    I remember being with my husband 2 months but not really in a relationship. Some woman sent him a text and they’d obviously been talking about meeting. I was too shocked to say anything but sent him a text later when he was at work saying I knew and I was really upset. I had no right to be as we weren’t in a relationship but I was upset so why deny my feelings? He tried to call me all day multiple times but I wouldn’t answer. We eventually talked and I didn’t have a go at him, I just said either he was with me 100% or he wasn’t. It was up to him but I wasn’t being messed around. He decided he was with me 100% so end of problem!

    I would do the same here. Tell him about the condom wrapper. Tell him it made you feel weird. Leave the burden of what happens from then up to him. It’s his mess so why should you have to clear it up? You’re not going to get less anxious. The more you think about it, the worse it will be. Just have the talk and see where you stand.

    #580985 Reply
    Lane

    I agree that a discussion about this needs to be had. We’ve had so many ladies in your situation who after months of dating felt blindsided by guys who ACTED like a BF, but never had any intention of becoming one.

    There’s a level of expectations that comes with such a title (BF/GF) and if its not progressing then you as the woman have to make a conscious choice to first clarify what YOU WANT, and end it if the man isn’t heading in the same direction you are.

    With men you need to be direct but calm, such as “I’ve enjoyed the past few months we’ve spent together, but I’m at a crossroad and need to know where we stand. I should have brought this up in the beginning, but I’m not looking for anything casual or short term, but a monogamous relationship that’s progressing towards a true commitment. It feels like we are, but I’m not sure because we haven’t discussed what we’re dating for. I just need some clarification so I can decide whether its in my best interest to continue or not.” THE END, then give him the room to speak.

    Sticking around in a dead end situation is not in YOUR best interest—need to put your needs, wants and desires first and foremost, always.

    #581010 Reply
    Meemee

    I have a close gf who was in a committed relationship for a year and the guy was sleeping around the whole time…. she found hair in the shower and that is how she found out… they broke up…

    I also have several friends who never had “the talk” and things just progressed naturally and slowly…

    So it really depends….

    #581014 Reply
    oh come on

    yes – this all depends on the situation. but before listening to all the posters here — one thing remains true – you need to ask him in one way or another. all you need to ask “hey, we’ve been hanging out for a while now and i want to know if you see this progressing into something more? if not, i need to know to decide if i am wasting my time or not” enough with this BS and roundabout question asking. lets be honest here – there is no real “good” way to ask this question…no matter how you ask it i believe this guy will not change his mind.

    you found a condom wrapper – it could or could not be his. the world will never know. but what does your gut tell you? you need to flex that intuition muscle, because it almost always is true.

    i’ve had an experience where i knew that the guy wasn’t committed to anythign long-term and so i just blurted out by asking him. and sure enough, he confessed that he doesn’t want anything “Serious” but wants to keep “hanging out.” i’m sure this man is keeping you on a string. and sounds like he’s sleeping w/ other women, which, is fine because you guys aren’t exclusive. i’m pretty sure that is something you WON’T be okay with. please don’t bend and twist your arm to make him want to be with you. you shouldn’t have to “convince” anyone to want to be with you. this enough, at least if it were me, would lose a significant amount of trust. i’d say walk away and kick him to the curb. life is too short to wait around for people who might never come around. life is too short to settle as someone’s back up or option.

    don’t accept the terms of friendship or crumbs that he’s giving you and walk away after hearing what he has to say. don’t think you’re jumping to conclusions here. tbh i think he’s keeping you on a string. just my two cents. let us know how it pans out.

    #581015 Reply
    Danita

    I have never had “the talk”, I think it just happens. And I think that 4 months of the dating the OP described is enough to assume exclusivity.

    I am glad I live in Europe, dating here seems to be much less shady than in US.

    #581016 Reply
    oh come on

    also the only way to get more from a man is to REMOVE yourself and the attention you’re giving him. this is not game playing, it’s just doing it for YOURSELF.
    if you want more – give him the time space and distance to make that decision to CHOOSE you. you ask him once, and if he gives you BS answers then you walk and don’t look back. SIMPLE.

    men like this thrive off keeping women on a string, because they CAN. and the only way to get more from him is to remove yourself from that string, and remove that security blanket that he has. simple as that.

    you need a shift in thinking, is all you’d need. instead of thinking ” oh i invested 4 months into a man and just recently i found a condom wrapper …which might mean he’s sleeping with another” INTO…”he’s shifted his decision, made his decision for whatever reason and decided he didn’t want to connect with me. that’s okay, i don’t need him and i will move forward with men who are willing to give chances and get to know me.”

    #581134 Reply
    Sherri

    There is nothing needy about having and wanting an exclusive relationship with a guy, especially when you are having sex!! I have never ever had sex with a guy who has not known that there is exclusivity involved. And I am talking about protected sex!!

    Even the FWBs that I have had have known that exclusivity was always on the table. It is basic respect and courtesy IMO.

    I would definitely have the talk and be prepared to walk if you both are not on the same page.

    #581248 Reply
    Coral

    Okay guys thank you, I now just need the opportunity in person to ask him. I really don’t want to ask over text or whatsapp. I want to see his reaction.

    #581249 Reply
    Jay

    So how often do you see him?

    #581263 Reply
    Coral

    @Jay

    About once a week, I’m nearing the end of an internship which has been very demanding time wise and he works at a bar with awkward shift hours. So when its convenient for us both basically.

    #581268 Reply
    Jay

    I get the busy schedule.. but. I have been with busy men. And busy myself. The key is that things progress. One date a week after all this time? Questionable.

    #581271 Reply
    Ashley

    I’m sure I’m totally in the minority here haha but I’m just throwing it out there that if it were me, I would actually wayyy prefer to do this over text/WhatsApp!! Reason being I’d want to be controlled, exactly how I word it, so it comes off literal & casual, not showing my emotional cards whatsoever. I’d want to word it as cool as a cucumber as possible. In person I’d be super anxious, my face likely the appearance of holding back tears etc. If it were me, I would rather die than do that lol I’d verbatim type this “remember the other day when you were showing me something on your phone & a bumble message popped up? Well I also saw a condom wrapper when I was there & it makes me wonder where exactly we stand? I don’t want to jump to conclusions, just looking for clarity after I saw those things”

    I’m sure I am a weirdo & most people would say do it in person but if it were me that’s exactly how I’d handle it. Just throwing out an alternative perspective just in case it appeals to you. I’m so sorry you’re going through this but at least it is better to find out sooner rather than down the line

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