5 dates and still NO kiss

Obviously someone knows nothing about Mormons. Beatrice, Mormons kiss when they want too. First, second date, whenever they want too. They call it free agency. I’m an active Mormon. Always expect a kiss on the first date.

The exact same thing is happening with me too… I met this guy online and we’ve been on 5 dates but still not kissed… We meet almost everyday, have a good conversation but it doesn’t go further than that..

I am in the same situation-the guy is almost painfully considerate/solisitice.I am not feeling much chemistry but he is so lame in some ways that it is hard to tell. I wish he would just grab and kiss me and then I would know if I feel anything. We get on great but this is not good IMO. I am a big believer in chemistry and I am sexually passionate-so this may not work-is not working for me. I do think it is unusual when guys are like this,but some are-this guy of “mine” is quite churchy too.

Kantech, I’d like to meet those men who do everything in a relationship. The ones today put in just enough effort to get sex and then they’re back on their dating app swiping right to someone else.

And all the times I “did something” the guy interpreted that as me chasing him and lost interest. And these “doing something” was innocuous as driving to him, or picking up the tab, or baking him cookies…or doing anything the least bit appreciative.

“We get to risk all the rejection.” Oh boo hoo, especially since any woman I know that has ever made the first move has ended up being viewed by the guy as desperate and ends up either getting used for sex or rejected outright. I’ve heard legends of this working out well for someone’s cousin’s coworker’s sister, but I’ve never had it work for me or anyone I know personally or honestly, anyone posting on here.

Sorry no women want to date you. I know it’s hard to do some self introspection to figure out why all the women swipe left for you.

Raven, spot on.

Shannon, there are a lot of good men out there. I don’t buy into this nonsense of all men moving on after sex. If they did, it’s because you didn’t do enough to convince them that you were a great catch. Maybe you can work on improving your feminine qualities. What you said about any time a woman initiates she is shot down is pure garbage. That’s just a crutch you are using. Just like some men when they initiate, they get shot down, and others don’t. It’s the same way. Sometimes you will get show down and other times you won’t. Well if you always get shot down, that’s just you. What entitles you to a 100 percent success rate when you initiate. It takes 2 people to have sex. So just don’t blame it on the guys. Nobody forced you to spread your legs. Honey, I doubt Kanntech has any problems getting women. You sound like a man hater. That’s your first issue.

Sorry Angie, the thrill is gone…

Don’t hang onto a man who doesn’t want to be close to You…

If a guy never makes a move he is probably bad in bed, insecure about his willy, or both.

I’m in the same boat..but after reading your story and all the comments..I now think I understand..we are frightened by what we are not used to..I am used to men that are only interested in the physical relationship..men that think sex answers everything..a kiss means nothing to them. The kind of men that make me question whether I am good enough..the kind of men that makes you question “does a man even like me if he doesn’t kiss me”..the answer is every man is different

if hes not trying out it means he just looks at you as a friend. if your ok being just a friend than continue seeing him as a friend. but if you want more than you can ask him directly or make some subtle move on him and see if he picks up the cue.