Am I crazy for ending things? Please help!


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  • #577658 Reply
    Danita

    Why would you even say something like that? You have an expiration date or?

    I think that the main problem is your desperation. Even I can feel it, and we don’t even know each other.

    I want love too, everyone does.

    #584390 Reply
    Emma

    I know I’m going to sound like a complete broken record but I’m so lost and heartbroken I really need help. After not seeing him for two months … truly believing I could do better I saw him Saturday night. A few weeks ago he sent me a sweet message on thanksgiving telling me he’s really thankful for me and thinks of me often and is always here for me. Of course it tugged on my heartstrings and over the last few weeks I could not stop thinking about him so I texted him this past Thursday. Saturday we ended up agreeing to see each other last minute because we were both free. We walked around xmas shops and I felt so much love and affectionate from him… holding my hand etc he just seemed so genuine . I slept at his place and we hooked up (everything but sex), the next day as usual things felt a little strange ,.. especially because he didn’t ask about seeing me again. When he put me in a cab he just said “stay in touch.” He tExted me at night something about xmas lights but didn’t keep the convo going. Now I feel sick to my stomach. All the work I did these past two months is ruined. And now he will never take me seriously because I told him multiple times I deserved better and went back. I am so so mad at myself for losing my dignity . Now what :/ i feel like I am just not good enough for him. He previously dated a model… I almost feel like the next day with no make up he was turned off by me or something. Ugh.

    #584453 Reply
    Raven

    Come on Emma, get MAD!

    Next time you’re starting to wax poetically remember these 3
    words… “stay in touch.”

    Don’t you think you deserve better?

    #584454 Reply
    Emma

    I am mad and I know I deserve better but I still feel like I’m doing something to make him just not THAT into me. I also have pointed out so many times why his behavior hurt me so now I don’t even know what to say to him. When he texted me last night making small talk I was really nice even though inside I am so hurt.

    #584505 Reply
    alia

    Emma, it’s not him it’s you:) Stop assuming these terrible things: that he saw you in the morning and you weren’t wearing makeup therefore your’e not as good as his ex girlfriend who is a model..
    These are limiting beliefs, and only in your head. You should be seeing a counselor to work through these kinds of thoughts. They are very damaging to your self esteem. You are no where near ready to date. Not this guy or any guy.

    #584584 Reply
    Newbie

    Emma, stop beating yourself up. So you relapsed but you didnt sleep with him and realized he is still the same wall. You said you did all the hard work, but did you do all the hard work? Like focussing on yourself, get fitter, get happier, get more confident? Those are just or maybe even more important than not talking to a guy. The fact that he has little respect for you (your words not mine) dont matter. Its just a sign youre not meant to be. Who cares if thinks that? Guys for some reason always come back. It beats me why. Maybe they are not wired to feel ok being alone. So this time do the work. No contact is not a trick to get a guy back, itsto get him out of your system

    #584596 Reply
    Emma

    Thank you! I guess my question now is do I go no contact without saying im going no contact even after responding to his texts last night? In the past I told him I don’t think we should be talking and then contradict myself because I would start talking to him again when he initiated. Last Thursday was the first time I initiated contact before our fall out two months ago. Do I say anything or just vanish? Or just be cordial if I hear from him again but don’t meet up with him?

    #584597 Reply
    L

    Why are you making this so complicated? Stop communicating with him

    #584607 Reply
    Newbie

    To me saying you go no contact to a guy is supersilly and i think guys know it if you dont really mean it. For me its not about contact or not but stop seeing this guy for more than he is. The thing that upset you was that you went out, he was sweet and then he went cold. That was what was upsetting so at least dont do that again. Let it fizzle out. You said he let the convo die out so there is nothing to respond to.
    And if you cant handle a ‘hi’ here and there block his number. Im fairly good with rejection in a way that if it doesnt work out but i like the guy i can be friends. But thats not for everyone

    #584628 Reply
    Amerie

    @Emma
    why are you making this so damn complicated??? what don’t you understand? INSANITY = DOING SOMETHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN (accepting crumbs, going back to him after just 1 measly empty text from him) AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS (a committment, BF/GF status, “i will see you and want you only.”)

    SO….LOGIC SAYS: you do something differently (DON’T CONTACT HIM) and MAYBEEEE just MAYBEEE he might offer you that committmment?? you’re not waiting for him, but you’re going to move on and find someoen else and throw him off to the side. truth is, there is no real love HERE — accept that, or else he would’ve been WITH YOU already!!

    the only way for this to work is for you to follow your words WITH YOUR ACTIONS! there is no possible way for you to begin to heal when you’re in constant contact, OR hoping for something more when after all this time he hasn’t given you what you wanted. SO….WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW? continue doing what you’ve always been doing? OR… ceasing all contact COMPLETELY (remember, words MUST be followed by ACTIONS) or else he WON’T RESPECT YOU, and knows he has you at the palm of his hands.

    you’re acting weak and you know it. for god’s sake- regain your power and dignity and flip the script on him. HE needs to CHOOSE you — that’ll be the only way for this to work. and you know what, you aren’t giving yourself OR HIM any chance to see what life is like without each other…instead, you’re constantly sending anxious, needy vibes. and guess what, he’s going to respond accordinly…he doesn’t respect you, and KNOWS he can dangle you — based on how you’re acting. a strong woman would say, “i am not accepting this and you’re gonna have to try A LOT harder for me to even give you the time of day.” remember the greatest gift you can give someone is your TIME. don’t give your TIME to people who have done nothing less of deservign to EARN it.

    read the words in caps lock really carefully — because all those words are hugely significant in determining your worth and establishing yourself as someoen worthy and respectable in his eyes. becasue right now., all you’re doing is groveling back to crumbs. the truth is one bitter pill to swallow, but sorry you’ve gotta take it.

    #584639 Reply
    Emma

    Thanks @Amerie but I don’t know how I’m sending weak needy vibes. I literally hadn’t initiated contact in over 2 months…he would contact me over and over again until I finally deleted him off of snapchat and told him to stop texting me. Even then…he still texted me on thanksgiving. So I thought that maybe he did care and I was the impatient one. But you’re right I am doing the same thing over and over again and look and feel nuts. Now I am so lost as to how to handle. I guess I just stop responding but we have mutual friends and I think I’m going to look nuts…but I’ll look crazier if I say something. I think if I don’t hear from him in a few days I have every right to ignore him for good. It just hurts. I really like this one.

    #584646 Reply
    Ashley

    Don’t tell him you’re not going to talk to him. Just do it. If you tell a guy you have to like force yourself not to talk to him, it shows you care about him way too much & is dramatic. You should focus on not liking him. Once a guy hurts or disappoints me, I feel like well this is a lost cause. And I focus on that & as a result stop liking. That’s your best option. Or else you will not get anywhere

    #584673 Reply
    Peggy

    Emma- Buy and read Mr. Unavailable and the Fallback Girl-by Natalie Lue. I am guessing you will as though this author knows you and this guy, her analysis of the situation will feel so true. Get it right now-it helped get me off the crazy wagon that these guys create and that you have bought into-good luck!

    #584688 Reply
    Amerie

    NO CONTACT MEANS NO CONTACT. how does him sending you a Thanksgiving text mean anything other than NO CONTACT. means you don’t even give a second of your time responding to anything he ever sends you. girl set some boundaries for yourself. Do not CONTACT …MEANING CALL TEXT SOCIAL MEDIA ETC unless he is ASKING YOU FOR ANOTHER CHANCE TO BE BACK TOGETHER AND TO give the relationship a committed effort. if you don’t hear anything NEARLY CLOSE TO these words, you’re walking away and NEVER looking back. and this includes no MERRY CHRISTMAS TEXT, either. NOTHING , NADA unless it’s something along those lines . that’s it end it, move on and find a MAN WHO treats you well. stop groveling and begging for a man who pushed you away

    #584692 Reply
    Emma

    Thank you all. It really helps re-reading through all your advice. I never explicitly told him I wanted a committed relationship with him. Do you think it’s worth saying all that and being really direct? The thing is at this point I don’t even think I want that anymore with him I’m so hurt…but maybe I could have done a better job communicating…

    #584695 Reply
    Ashley

    I would not tell him anything! For your own good do not talk to this man. If you see him in public keep it cordial nothing else

    #584707 Reply
    Peggy

    NO regards contact- and read the book!

    #584709 Reply
    ELL

    do what gives YOU the closure: the most important thing is: YOU need to ensure that you’re ready to mentally move on. so the manner in closure is irrelevant and his response is irrelevant. at this point, he has NOTHING to do with you anymore. he is part of your past and certainly won’t be part of your future.

    1) if you contact: short and concise: (I’ve sent something along the lines of this, and was fine in doing so – it meant closure for me. Trust in the fact that this man isn’t f*cking stupid. if you want out, HE KNOWS the reason why. no need for explanation/feeling guilty. he might be 5 women deep. you never know. “This isn’t working out for me anymore. Please don;t contact me any further, I need time and space apart. Please respect my decision.” BOOM. THEN YOU IMMEDIATELY BLOCK HIM FROM ALL CHATTING APPS, SOCIAL MEDIA — this 110% helps you in forgetting and healing/moving on.

    2) if you don’t contact and don’t feel the need to contact …you might run the risk of texting him again. remember, you’re not doing this to evoke a reaction out of him. you’re doing this FOR YOURSELF, getting that CLOSURE FOR YOURSELF, and CLOSING THE DOOR on this part of your life. if he comes back, and the connection was strong enough he will come back. but at this point right now, accept the situation and keep moving forward. if you’re not going to contact him – I HIGHLY SUGGEST BLOCKING HIM ON ALL FORMS OF CONTACT. if he doesn’t hear from you I PROMOISE YOU he will know why you left. you”re leaving for YOU, NOT TO EVOKE A RESPONSE OUT OF HIM.

    thirdly, you’ll never get out of this if you don’t make a clean break. this has happened to my best friend and she kept going back to him OVER AND OVER AGAIN …dragged it on for 2 years, and it took her MONTHS to recover after finding out he was seeing someone else. DON’T be that person. thankfully, she’s with someone she adores now, but think — you DO NOT want to be wasting your precious time WHEN YOU CAN BE HAVING THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE WHO IS ON THE SAME PAGE AS YOU. she even told me “wow, i can’t believe i didn’t give myself the chance to see who else was out there.” so take this as a motivating force to REALLY BE DONE . and lastly, if he EVER EVER CONTACTS OR REACHES you again you will TAKE NOTHING LESS OR SHORT OF: i want to be with you, i made a mistake, i am willing to fix it, i know you’re the one i want right now. if anything less, you keep movin FORWARD and stop looking back.

    you must follow all of that. trust me, it’ll get better each day IF AND ONLY IF you do those above. you won’t fully move on, or open yourself up to other men if he’s always gonna be that dark cloud on your shoulder. LET GO.

    #584710 Reply
    ELL

    no texts or calls/ social media messages whatsoever. those are off limits. i don’t even care if you found out a family member of his died. please don’t send that merry christmas text either. because that is ALL contact. stop being stupid and start having a backbone.

    #584711 Reply
    Meemee

    Emma – in your current mental state, this forum is the worst place you can come for advise….

    The biggest problem you have is your own fear!!!!! You let your fear for the future drive all your interactions with this man… It is Soooo unhealthy….

    I dont know this man… i dont know if he is emotional unavailable or whatever… All I read is your own internal fear….

    Unless you realize this and choose to deal with it, you will never get into a healthy relationship…

    Focus on what you have already in your life, friends, family, career, and take men as just one component of your life, but not your entire life….

    #584898 Reply
    luna

    give him the time space and distance he needs to miss you. in the meantime, focus on yourself, your health and who you were before meeting him. don’t let this consume you.

    also, men out of long-term relationships (I’ve found) strictly want casual ….at least that’s what it is in my experience. i recently dated this guy who got out of a LTR in January (met him in April, dated him from May – late August). So up until the point I met him, he was only 3 months single. Yes, eventually, he said he wasn;t looking for anything serious or committed and wanted some time to just be single and casual, but wanted me to be there with him, along for the ride. I said, absolutely not, that’s not what i want. and walked away. he proposed beign frineds, and begged me to be in his life, but in the end, i couldn’t go through with it.
    in these situations, time will only tell if he will come back. he proabbly needs and wants to date other women before he ultimately decides to settle and make it official with someone. and that’s okay. allow him to do what he wants becasue if you don’t that’s never gonna work. just know that it won’t work for you, so you’re goinfg to move on. great, if he comes back. if he doesn’t you still won also.

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