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Hi everyone.
So astrologically my partner and I are deemed mostly incompatible. He’s Pisces, I’m Gemini. We both choose to live our lives with the assurance that we’re much more than our star sign. We’re human spirits trying to make the best out of this life thing. With that said, I’ve found that our ‘incompatibility’ has meant that we have to work at just about EVERYTHING where our relationship is concerned. Only a few things come easily and naturally. Fortunately we both have the same outlooks on major things such as family, spiritual beliefs, children, careers and sometimes money. But everything else is work. Our ideologies on romance differ so we’re both constantly having to teach each other how to best make the other feel loved and appreciated within the relationship. Our communication styles differ, so that too is something we’re constantly having to work on.
Our social lives aren’t integrated. He has his friends, I have mine, we very seldom- if ever do things with each other’s friends. I don’t think this bothers either of us but I can’t help wondering if this is how it’s meant to be? Do couples go through their entire lives teaching the other how best to relationship? Is it something that’s not suppose to just come naturally? I mean this man generally makes me feel loved and appreciated. He respects and protects me. He’s reliable. He’s honest. He’s a good man but our relationship is constant work and while I’m not feeling worn out, I can’t help but wonder if this is how it’s suppose to be?AnonIs this relationship with this guy constant work or do you have other relationships that are hard work as well? With friends, family members, or work? I’m asking because sometimes there are easy-going people and not as easy-going people.
I do not believe a relationship should be that hard, it’s supposed to be a place where you build each other up and comfort each other in the “hard” world we live in. The relationship you are in shouldn’t be a constant effort. However, as you continue with a relationship, you do have to put some effort in to keep it going, but at the beginnings of a relationship- it really shouldn’t be that challenging.
BI mean I guess because I’m not as invested in those relationships as this one, I can’t say I work at any other relations, or atleast it doesn’t feel like I am.
We’ve been together 2years and I can’t say there was ever a time where I felt like things were just unfolding naturally. Except of course for the first couple of months when he was courting me.
I think because in the past I’d usually date guys I already knew- friends so to speak- there was an automatic comfort with them that hasn’t been so automatic with this relationship. My girl friends suggested dating someone who wasn’t already in my life and wow, it’s a lot. I’m not sure if it’s coz I was just oblivious to how relationships REALLY work or if my partner and I are just desperately trying to push a square peg through a round hole? Can two people love each other dearly but experience little factors that make the relationship feel it needs continuous effort to stay alive? I won’t say it feels like a job, because it doesn’t. I’m just wondering if this is how all relationships are and I’m just maybe new to this?TallspicyHmmm, constant work is different from good conflict resolution skills that you use every now and then. And for me, it would not be ok to have totally senate lives. I don’t need everything to be together, but no integration means I have a suitable companion, not a partner.
I can’t tell if you have unreasonable expectations are you are fundamentally incompatible. Star signs have nothing to do with it.
Relationships should be about 15% work. And no one will make you happy all the time… so if there is a capability choice want and staying to communicate, repair and forgive … it sounds pretty decent.
NewbieIts very hard to say. My partner and i are 180 degrees the opposite of everything, really you name it and we are the opposite. But we never have issues. Well we had issues one day past years, the day crazies rioted into the capitol. But we love each other the same, share the same sense of humour, respect each other and he sort of has me on a pedestal. And i dont mean like a real one, because he can get annoyed when im too late, when i dont understand the manual, when i break things. But he finds it all endearing as well. so it works.
We have no expectations of the other.
With you i cant make up how substantial it is. If you share most basic values then how hard can it be? To me it doesnt sound that hard to overcome, but its up to you bothBI guess my fears kicked into gear when he asked when do I think I’d be ready to live together. Every challenging thing about our relationship just came to mind. He’s SUPER clean, super specific about what he likes and don’t, I’m not. Essentially we’re two completely different people who happen to share the same views on a number of things. We both generally don’t like conflict so the thought of us possibly fighting over trivial things makes me slightly anxious. Another big aspect of us moving together would be me being completely dependent on him. We live in different cities so I would have to open new offices in his town which would obviously take a bit of time. A year into our relationship we had agreed that we would buy our first home close to my home because it also happens to be close to his family, but his work has done much better than we anticipated so he’s now wanting to start life in his city. I’m now worried that the constant effort, our different personalities, coupled with me being dependent on him might be a recipe for disaster.
RavenYou can love someone & still be incompatible…
AnonHe is very specific which means he likes to plan things out. He’s asking for details about when you’d move in together,etc. It doesn’t sound like the relationship is really fun, but maybe I’m wrong. Relationships are more than checking the boxes of what you agree or disagree on, it’s really loving someone for who they are, not trying to change them, so you really shouldn’t be arguing or disagreeing on things all the time. Who is starting the little fights- you or him? Is it worth the time and effort to fight over little things or could you just let them go? I just don’t care about the little things that much in a relationship to take time to argue over them in the time we are together.
NewbieI find it hard to understand if you are that incompatible or youre overthinking this. In either case i do think its smart to ask the questions though.
I have a feeling you are the one walking more on eggshells here. And the is is somewhat on the spectrum. It that is true, i can imagine life with him would be challenging.
Further more, its always two individuals trying to become a team. I dont think its very easy for most people. Living together is a great way to find out. If it doesnt work out, its not that difficult to break up.
I also get a bit of the vibe anon has, that he is not much fun.
So there are different views but only you can see this for what it is. If i were you, i would try to dig deeper what it is, that is holding you back. Because there is somethingBI actually chuckled while reading because we in actual fact don’t have much fun together. We spend ltime together but we seldom do anything FUN. He sets up romantic dinners and that’s just about all the fun we have. Whenever I set up a hike or something adventurous, he’ll say he’s not really into it. I never want it to seem as though I’m forcing him to participate in activities he has no desire to. Sometimes it feels like we’ve both chosen to settle on each other because we don’t rock each other’s boats. It’s “easy.” The other day I said to him that whenever he apologizes for something, it never feels sincere. It usually feels like he just doesn’t want to deal with a fight. In as much as I too avoid unnecessary conflict with him, should it happen, I’m always happy to address the issue head on. I never want to shy away from it. I guess I have a deeply suppressed fear that I might have to let go of someone who’s truly amazing based on the very incompatibility we were so determined to “prove wrong” The prospect of a break up makes me extremely sad because I know we love each other deeply.
EmilyGood relationships are not constant work. Relationships occasionally require effort in the form of acting in the other person’s and relationship’s best interest even if you don’t feel like it 100% of the time. However, if holding onto the relationship and daily decision making are consistent struggles, you are with the wrong person or you yourself have ineffective behaviors that are causing the problem.
KimI don’t think you should place to much emphasis on your star signs. For example some people say this person behaves a certain way because he or she is a Leo. The way a person behaves has got nothing to do with their star sign. It’s just them.
Every relationship needs work and goes through good times and rough times. Not every day will be smooth sailing. You choose a life partner because you want to share everything with them through the good and the bad stuff.
It doesn’t really matter if you have little differences like if he’s tidy and you’re messy. Each person brings something different to the relationship.
NewbieIt sounds to me you already made up your mind the end is coming soon if you feel you settled. Do you know how he is with friends? Because you said he has them.
I cant really give advice. I think you should talk to him and also talk to a few people who know you well.
I had a fwb a long time ago. He was a nice and good guy. Really there was nothing wrong with him. We were also good friends. One day i had a pregnant scare and he told me he would step up like marry me. Somehow that prospect was worse than having a baby i didnt want. And again there was nothing wrong him. It was a scare but that fwb was over. We were just not meant to be.
So, take you time, you dont need to decide over night. Take time to see if your fears are real or inside you. Its a life decision so no reason to rush it. Take careAnon PersonI don’t think there’s any amount of effort or work that makes a relationship valid or invalid. It comes down purely to how you feel. If you feel it’s too much work then it’s too much. If you’re willing to do that much work then you’re willing to do it. There’s no set rule. Each relationship is different.
Liz LemonThere’s a lot of very good advice in this thread. What strikes me about your post is that you say things “don’t come easy and naturally” in your relationship, and you don’t have fun with your partner. To me that says quite a bit. Your relationship probably feels like a lot of work because you lack fun, ease, & comfort with this person.
I agree with other posters that relationships require effort & sacrifice at times (some times more than others). But if it feels like a grind on practically a daily basis, that’s a bad sign. The positives should outweigh the negatives, by a significant amount. And your partner should be your friend– you should enjoy each other’s company. You should feel comfortable together. You should have fun together. That’s my take anyway.
Liz Lemon“I guess I have a deeply suppressed fear that I might have to let go of someone who’s truly amazing based on the very incompatibility we were so determined to “prove wrong”.
You sound like a thoughtful person. I think you know that fear, and wanting to prove a point, are not reasons to stay in an unfulfilling, incompatible relationship.
BThank you so much everyone. I truly appreciate all this advice. It’s giving me a lot to think about. I think it’s easy to let go when someone is just being a blatant jerk. It’s a little harder when they aren’t really doing wrong. I thought maybe over time we’d finally get to a place of ‘ease.’ More than anything I needed to know if anybody has ever experienced a challenging relationship at first but then eventually got to a good place. Clearly it doesn’t work that way so him and I might need to be honest with ourselves. I’ll suggest a joint therapy session just so we can have someone who’ll ensure neither of us feels misunderstood in deciding what best to do.
Again, thank you. Definitely needed to hear all this.MaddieHave you ever looked into your attachment styles? The times my romantic relationships felt like work, it was because one or both sides had insecure attachment issues. That’s a big factor in compatibility because it impacts how you respond to conflict, so conflict resolution with each other, communicate, influences if there’s healthy boundaries… pretty much all the fundamentally important stuff. I’d argue attachment style is the biggest factor! I’ve seen relationships that were hard get easier if the people involved who had insecure attachment problems chose to work on *themselves,* as that’s where the core problems affecting compatibility actually were. Then things improved and got negotiated or solved.
My boyfriend and I now are both secure attachers and it’s so easy. Sure, we have lots in common and have similar lifestyle goals too, but the reason it’s so easy is simply because we are extremely forthright, open, and honest in communicating with each other, so we can talk through and work around our differences. Be on the same team.
So first, you need to get your communication and conflict resolution in order. Because it sounds like you’ve kept a lot of your fears bottled up and he may not even know you have them. A therapy appointment is a good start, but go in with an attitude of curiosity, not one of you’ve already made up your mind and are just looking for an arbitrator to help moderate the conversation.
Then, you’ve got to put some effort and priority into having fun, even if you’re taking more initiative to do the planning than you have been. Reserving fun time with each other can be work that’s part of any relationship, because you do need to put effort into coming up with ideas to keep things fresh and explore together, but actually hanging out shouldn’t feel like work.
This may very well be salvageable, but you need to talk through it and see if you can mutually come up with solutions about how you want your relationship to look to know. Honestly, making sure you’re both deep down on the same page about values and looking-term goal stuff (like, which area you each want to live in, not just one or both of you people-pleasing to avoid a fight). I wouldn’t move in just yet until you tackle some of this stuff, you’re absolutely right to be concerned about next steps. But I wouldn’t throw in the towel just yet without confronting and looking into some of this stuff instead of defaulting to not rocking the boat until the lack of communication leads to things just falling apart. The worst that can happen if you talk about it is you decide you don’t actually want the same things and you break up, which of course sucks but is also something you’re already thinking about anyway.
Maddie*longer-term stuff, not looking-term. Auto correct and I can’t edit :)
BOh my gosh Maddie, I think what you’ve mentioned almost nails our issues. I wouldn’t quite say I have attachment issues, I definitely have a full life outside of this relationship but having a partner whom I only see once or twice a month definitely heightens my desire to atleast speak on the phone regularly. My primary love language is physical touch. The distance obviously makes that extremely challenging so it makes me slightly sad when we can’t make up for it with other stuff. For example him not jumping at the chance to do fun activities whenever we are together is frustrating. Sure he’s always open to lunch or dinner somewhere cute and romantic, but can we do other stuff!?!? Stuff that might actually contribute to the growth and strengthening of our bond? What’s more frustrating is he knows what I like, he’ll say something like “there’s an art exhibition tomorrow at that gallery you like visiting” but he won’t make the effort to get the tickets. (He’s very financially stable so that can’t be an excuse)
I would love for this relationship to work just not at the expense of my true self. Also I’ve found whenever I compromise one thing, he gets a little TOO comfortable. The best way to describe it is I feel like we’ve been married for 60 years. We’re in love with no sparks flying.Liz LemonMaddie’s point about attachment styles is excellent! Especially because you said in your original post, B– “Our ideologies on romance differ so we’re both constantly having to teach each other how to best make the other feel loved and appreciated within the relationship. Our communication styles differ, so that too is something we’re constantly having to work on.”
I see from your latest post that you only see your boyfriend 1-2 times a month? So I assume it’s a LDR. And you’ve been together 2 years– have you been long distance that entire time?
If so, it strikes me that maybe you simply have not spent enough time together to really know if you’re a match. At that rate you’ve only physically been together 24 times at the max in the past 2 years. It takes time to figure out if someone is the right fit for you– it takes time, and shared experiences (both good and bad ones). Just living daily life together is essential in figuring out if you can get along– for example, we had a big snowstorm where I live and my bf had to get up early to shovel and was in a bad mood & was crabby with me- I made him breakfast before he left for work so that helped his mood & he left on a better note. I didn’t get pissed off at him for being cranky (some people would have), I just made him breakfast instead. But he also cooked me dinner last night and we had a fun evening, so it was easy for me not to get mad at him. My point is, it’s just an example of one of those day to day things you have to experience together as you work towards figuring out if you’re compatible.
If you only see your bf once or twice a month, it’s more like a vacation than real life (I have done LDRs in the past and in my experiences, when we finally made a move to be together more consistently/permanently, it turns out we did not know each other well enough and it didn’t work out- not trying to scare you, it’s just my experience). You may be slowly realizing that you are not as compatible as you thought– something that you may have figured out in 6 months if you saw each other regularly.
So that may be part of the issue, from what I see. Just wanted to throw that out there.
BThank you Liz.
We didn’t start off long distance. The first year we were together we would see each other just about every weekend. We lived an hr apart so it kinda made the transition to LDR easier. I honestly don’t think it’s an issue of not knowing each other, if anything, maybe we’ve gotten to know each other TOO well so now we’re just comfortable (read he’s comfortable)
I don’t mind that we see each other twice, three times a month. I don’t because we’re both extremely busy people with our own businesses so it kinda makes sense. I imagine being with someone who’s not as busy would maybe be a challenge coz they might not understand how time consuming running a business can be. So whenever he has to reschedule plans we’d made, I completely get it and I don’t get upset. (Hope this is the same as your snowstorm scenario.) Maybe my new question should be “Can people work on compatibility?” Is it possible?NewbieFor me its still not clear where your main issues are about. I do think Maddie her post about love styles was insightfull but when i read your response that seems more like he is not putting much effort in the relationship. That he is compartimentalizing and not in your favour. At first i assumed he was a boring dudd (which can work) now i question his intent. How does he spend his time with friends and how much time does he spend? And there is really nothing you both like to do except having dinners? Its duable but you still have to enjoy each others company.
We still dont know your ages or your plans. That can also matter in what decision to make.
I think your plan to go some couple counselling might work if you are clear in the questions you have.Liz LemonThe point of the snowstorm story was about how you deal with the petty inconveniences of life as a couple. (And the major ones too). I see your point, I’m not a business owner but I get that you can be understanding & flexible with each other when needed. That’s great.
I guess I would just find it hard to feel I really knew someone I only saw a couple times a month. Fancy dinners & art galleries are fun, and I love doing those with my bf, but I also value stuff like cleaning the house together, grocery shopping, shoveling snow etc. Because that builds your relationship also. It shows how you work as a team.
I digress though! I agree with you that it seems basic compatibility is an issue for you two. Whether you can work past that, I don’t know.
BHe’s a boring dudd (I can’t believe I just called my bf that) 😭 But he is. And at first I figured since I’m such a social and adventurous butterfly, a withdrawn person might be best suitable for me?? I’m 32. He’s 35. He’s a homebody mostly. I can’t say he’s any more fun with his friends. They go away for bday weekends as boys, when he tells me what he got up to, it doesn’t sound any more different then the guy I experience. He sends pics too so it’s not that he’s maybe lying. I think we like a host of stuff but he’s happy to just chill at home. At first I thought maybe since we spend so much time apart, he wants me all to himself but as times goes by, I’m realising just how bored I’m becoming. Lunch. Home. Dinner. Home. When I speak to him about being more outgoing he agrees then does absolutely nothing about it. Hence me feeling like I don’t want to force him to do stuff with me. One question that plagues is “Are there women who would be ok with this? Am I just being difficult?”
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