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    Joyce

    Things were absolutely great and perfect up until 2 weeks ago starting 3/20. He had an overwhelming family issue that he disappeared for three days. He explained himself Wednesday and Thursday night (3/23-24) the situation and why he left. It was completely rational and forgave him. He acknowledged his mistakes, took full accountability, apologized profusely, and told me he would work on his communication skills and that he would never disappear on me again. Thursday – Saturday, we spoke every night on the phone. It was great! It told me he was trying to communicate better because that’s how our relationship used to be. On Saturday, he reassured me that our relationship is fine and he did not lose any interest or feelings. We also spoke a little bit about the near future plans, such as moving in together because he mentioned that whenever he is able to move out of the house (he still lives with the whole family), it will fix many issues. He believes that because he is in this toxic environment, it causes a lot of problems because he gets dragged into them when it has nothing to do with whatever is going on. However, this Sunday (3/27) he disappeared again! It is now 4/2 and I have yet to hear from him. I’d like to also say he has a lot of family issues (practically weekly). The issue is basically his brother. He’s like the “bad egg” of the family – makes poor decisions and acts on them, bad influencer, etc. My bf has never disappeared until recently. It has made me think the problems must be so severe that he’s unable to cope and turns his phone off as a coping mechanism because everything is too overwhelming for him to fully comprehend because when he disappeared last week, he said he completely isolated himself from everyone. Never left his room, was constantly at the gym, actually looked forward to going to work cuz it meant he was able to be away for most of the day, etc.

    I’d like to add that we have not dated very long. Only almost two months. He’s also the type who can live without a phone. He used be an amazing communicator, we never had a fight/argument/disagreement, shared the same values and mindset, had a very loving relationship, everything. We have even discussed a future together. I’d really like us to work out in the long run, but I’m unsure of what to do so that he doesn’t distance himself away from me. I understand this is a process that doesn’t get fixed overnight. What can I do or say to him? How long should I wait for him to come back? It would officially be a week of no contact as of tomorrow (4/3). In general, he’s a very open and transparent guy but very closed off about his family, which is okay because I know for some people, it’s harder to speak about it. He told me that with time, he would grow more comfortable talking to me about his troubles.

    Whatever he is currently going through, I want to help him, but I know I can only do so much and don’t even know what I can do lol He is 100% worth waiting for and saving the relationship to me. I just feel so lost how it was literally great one day, and then the next day, it’s totally different.

    #932404 Reply
    Peggy

    Hi Joyce. Several things: He has major family issues and they distract and stress him. That likely has nothing to directly do with you. But it results in uneven communication and togetherness. I would not be calling him on the carpet and being demanding at this early stage. I will alienate him and add to his stress. Also it is way to soon to be talking about living together etc. You also would want to be sure he wants to be with you. if that plan happens and not just that he is escaping his family.
    It is possible also that he is not “feeling it” and is using his family as an excuse. Either way, it does not seem he is a guy that is ready for a relationship or able to meet our needs.
    I would see if he contacts you soon and what he says this time about the gap in talking. But I would not contact him. My impression is that this is not going to work out. It is likely the family will be over involved and he will let them pull his strings.

    #932405 Reply
    AngieBaby

    I’m going to tell you straight – this is wayyyyy too much difficulty and drama in less than two months of dating.

    You should not be speaking about moving in together so soon under any circumstance. Absolutely do not move in with this guy.

    You say he’s worth waiting for and saving the relationship, but again with less than two months of dating, YOU DO NOT REALLY KNOW THE REAL PERSON HE IS. You’ve gotten hooked too soon.

    This guy seems to have a lot of problems and deals with them by shutting down and shutting everyone out. That isn’t heathy and not a solution to anything. He hasn’t spoken to you in a week? Giant red flag. This rollercoaster will get very tiresome if you stay on it and my guess is at some point in the near future he’ll tell you some version of he’s not good for you, can’t give you what you want, or just entirely ghost you.

    I know you don’t want to hear this, but if he contacts you again, tell him you like him but you don’t see this working out under the circumstances. It’s NOT OK for him to freeze you out for a week. The silent treatment is abusive.

    This man is not capable of being in a healthy relationship right now, and maybe never will be. If you keep this up, you will waste your valuable time that you can’t get back.

    #932406 Reply
    Raven

    You’ve been together 2 months & he’s been AWOL for 2 weeks. So really you’ve been together for a month & a half…

    You really don’t know this guy.
    Me thinks he is misrepresenting his ‘family.’ Have you met them?

    #932407 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    I totally agree with what the others have said. Also:
    ” We also spoke a little bit about… moving in together because he mentioned that whenever he is able to move out of the house (he still lives with the whole family), it will fix many issues.”

    It sounds like he sees you as an escape from his toxic living situation. He wants to move in with you to get away from them– not because the relationship has arrived to the level where you’re ready to live together.

    Read what Angiebaby wrote. Do not move in with this guy! Two months is way too soon, and there’s way too much drama in the relationship. Two months in should be the honeymoon period & things should be blissful. It’s a red flag that he’s so inconsistent & has so many issues.

    Given what you’ve described I don’t think this relationship will work out, I’m sorry to say. Going weeks without communicating with you (in a barely 2 month relationship!) is a very bad sign.

    #932413 Reply
    Tammy

    Iagree with liz and angie. Move on.. he is presently not in a gud mindspace to be in a relationship. And its just been 2 months so its not like u know him all that well. My suggestion is to let him contact you and then see wht he says. Its his life and his family issues. He needs to sort all that out first. Start detaching yourself mentally from this guy.

    #932416 Reply
    Lane

    This is what dating is about, determining if you can accept the individual how they ARE, not what you want them to be. This is how he deals with difficult situations; shuts down and goes into his man cave. The problem is, the two of you haven’t faced a real problem together, and if this is how he reacts to family issues, how do you think he will react when the two of you face a difficult problem or issue together?

    People can and do change but he will need to learn better coping techniques and practice them before adopting the one(s) that work. Maybe you could help him by offering him a self-help book on coping techniques (I’m sure you can find one on the web) so when he faces a difficult issue he can try them to see what works and what doesn’t. He obviously hasn’t been in a healthy living situation to learn proper coping skills, so think of it as a gift that could help not only him but your relationship too. This is what adulting is; learning new skills and building a toolbox to help you navigate and deal with a variety of difficult situations and challenges along the pathway of life. Knowledge is power! :o)

    #932417 Reply
    Lane

    As a side note you may want to find a book that deals with not only coping skill but how to establish healthier boundaries. He obviously lacks those skills due to his upbringing so it could very well be the help (gift) he needs to help him break those childhood habits? Worth a try.

    #932420 Reply
    Tammy

    I disagree with the above posters view. Way too soon for you to be taking on the responsibility of sorting out this guys family issues or giving tips on how to cope. He has shut himself out and stopped communicating with you. You guys have been together for such a short period! He needs to sort out his issues.

    #932423 Reply
    AngieBaby

    I’m with you Tammy. Sorry Lane, respectfully do not agree with your advice on this one. Men hate it when you try to “fix” them like this and it isn’t a winning strategy for a romantic relationship. If they were just friends it would make more sense to recommend books. I’m kind of surprised you would give this advice because you’re usually one of the first to point out co-dependency but here you’re encouraging someone to start acting like a therapist when she should be backing off.

    These two hardly know each other and there’s talk of moving in together because he says that getting out of the family home would solve a lot of his problems – which may be partially true but not entirely unless he intends to cut off contact with his family when he leaves, which presents another set of issues. Co-habitating with someone you just started dating to get away from your family is a bad idea. (I’m guessing he can’t afford to move out or he would have already.) Add that to his withdrawal/silence behavior and this man is really not a good bet for a relationship.

    His family issues are not the OP’s problem and she’s in real danger of getting sucked into a bad situation if she keeps seeing him. They’ve only been dating six weeks and he hasn’t been in touch with her for a week because he has family problems? If someone did that to me, I’d tell him I can’t see him any longer under these circumstances and to contact with me when he’s moved out of there and sorted out the issues and then we could have a chat and a coffee and see what’s possible at that time. The most I’d suggest is that he might want to consider talking with a therapist to get some support because family stuff can be hard. That’s it.

    #932589 Reply
    Lane

    I find it interesting your opposed to my idea when the both of you often suggest therapy, or couples counseling to help those having issues. How is that not “fixing”?

    I am not telling her to fix him but offering her an IDEA on how to help a young man who doesn’t know how to properly handle or cope with family issues. As a mom, I see a very young man struggling and a young woman struggling to understand, whereas there is often a lot of valuable information from self help books that could provide both of them with better ways of dealing with life problems. I don’t see any harm in that.

    Sadly, I didn’t know what “co-dependency” was until a decade later when I was deep into it. Sure wish someone, ANYONE, would have given me that information much much earlier as it would have definitely helped me. Self-help books gave me the information I needed to not only understand it but tackle, and overcome it, which has helped me immensely in my current relationship. Knowledge is power!

    #932590 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    Lane, I think they disagreed with you because this is not a long-standing or established relationship. She barely knows this guy. They’ve barely dated 2 months. It’s quite common for relationships to fall apart in the 2-4 month period, in fact most do. This board is full of women at that stage of dating who are hurting because their relationships is falling apart.

    The first few months of dating are to establish whether someone is a good fit and whether they are in a healthy mental space for a relationship. This guy clearly is not. If anything it would be co-dependent to jump into a relationship with the hope of pulling this guy out of the funk he’s in– in order to establish a healthy relationship, BOTH people need to start off in a healthy mental and emotional place.

    If you just barely start dating a guy and it’s already clear he needs “help” (to use your word), the best thing to do is step away. Therapy is appropriate for longer-term, established relationships where both people have invested a lot of time and emotion, and want to make it work.

    #932591 Reply
    Tammy

    U elucidated that so well liz. I agree fully with your post.

    #932592 Reply
    mama

    Those first few months people are on their BEST behavior. Down the road things get real, so who they are in the beginning is the best you’re going to get. If someone isn’t behaving the way you hope within those first few months, it’s futile to try and change them to what you’re looking for. You can’t change someone, regardless of how badly you want it. You cut your losses and go find someone else who aligns with you better.

    I don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to get that.

    #932596 Reply
    AngieBaby

    Lane… to answer your questions and to expand on Liz’s point, suggesting counseling for individuals or couples who are experiencing difficulties beyond what strangers on the internet can comment on isn’t “fixing” because it’s referring them to a professionally trained source who can work with them intensively in a way tailored to their situations. “Fixing” in my book is taking it upon yourself to tell someone who did NOT request your input what to do to solve a problem, or trying to give advice when the situation is well beyond your area of knowledge.

    Telling a man what to do and how to solve his problems, unless you have an established relationship and you can make suggestions in a way that doesn’t emasculate him, is a big mistake. He will NOT be grateful to you and it will NOT improve your relationship. Men don’t view “help” as help like we women do. It’s usually not welcome – and it’s acting like a woman mothering a little boy, which will put them right off of seeing you as a sexual partner and girlfriend or wife. If you’d like to read about this further, Dr. John Gray discusses this concept in many of his books.

    You’re right about self help books, they’re awesome… IF someone is ready to read them, IF they are the reading type. “Here, read this book” when you hardly know someone, while certainly well intended, can come across as presumptuous and condescending as hell.

    I appreciate your recommendation was based on your POV as a mother. But this is a dating and relationship advice site for people who are 18 and up – adults. We aren’t here to tell children how to play nice together.

    No woman of any age should be recommending self-help books to a man she’s been dating six or eight weeks to advise him on how to handle his problems, unless he specifically asked her for ideas, resources or her opinion. Furthermore, t’s a great disservice to train a young woman that she should be a nice girl and a helper instead of looking out for her best interests in any situation, especially dating. To the point that Liz and mama made, if a man’s behavior is unkosher in the first 2-3 months of dating, you release him and go on to the next. You don’t say, oh poor thing, you’re struggling, here let me help, here read these books. Step one towards codependency. No bueno.

    Way too many women stick in bad, unhealthy dating situations and relationships, trying to prove themselves worthy and win his love and support him through his problems, long before they know if he deserves them or long after he’s proved that he doesn’t. Let’s support each other in knowing our worth, standing up for ourselves and walking away from bad or unhealthy behavior sooner rather than later.

    Completely no offense intended here Lane. I respect you as a solid long time member of this community who gives very good advice almost always.

    #932597 Reply
    AngieBaby

    Oh geez, I think that last line could come across as snarky and I did not intend that. All the regular contributors here give good advice “almost always.” No one here, which certainly includes me, is right 100% of the time!!

    #932606 Reply
    mama

    “Let’s support each other in knowing our worth, standing up for ourselves and walking away from bad or unhealthy behavior sooner rather than later.”

    CHEERS TO THAT!

    #932607 Reply
    Trixie

    Joyce – not to worry. I am the same way in my relationship. Check out Myers Briggs INTJ. My bf is very understanding and supportive.

    #932608 Reply
    Trixie

    Joyce – ask him take a free online Myers Briggs personality test (without revealing the personality type). If he is INTJ, there is your answer. We require much space to process and recharge. If he is not iNTJ, I agree with the others comments.

    Side note: INTJs are very loyal.

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