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Patti
I feel for you. It happened to me. I was feeling lonely in workplace as I’m quite shy around others. Hard for me to initiate friendships.
This married man who sat nearby started saying hi in hall, then leaving candy on my desk He always acted platonic for a very long time. I was slow to warm up. But after several months I started relishing his friendship, even craving it.
I was aware he was married and was always conflicted very much about getting too attached. I was hot and cold a lot with him.
Then he started innocently touching my arm here & there I think testing my reaction. Well I was very aroused and let my fantasies get the better of me.
Shamefully, I started doing the same to him.Eventually we met outside work for an affair. It was exciting for several months. But then my self esteem faltered badly, realizing I was a dirty secret, given no priority in his life, only treated very casually while he came and went from my life at his convenience.
I want to emphasize that a friendly married man has an agenda- an affair. They will treat you friend like at the start so as not to appear to be hitting on you. They will pick up the vibe you are vulnerable & leech on like a barnacle. The friendship will appear very innocent but hes waiting for you to show attraction to him.
He will then bomb you with compliments that are about how you look. It will feel wonderful.
In my case the guy later started to throw in my face how he wants to hang out with other female co workers. Hes too tired or busy to see you. It’s all downhill from there. I had to take sick leave to get over this. Almost lost my job due to poor performance & not sleeping at night.
Please dont encourage the married man. If you are vulnerable like I was, he will notice and try to act like your best friend. Married men shouldn’t need female friends at work. They have a wife at home.
Be polite and cordial but keep your distance. I’ve been thru it. Be wary of someone too friendly. They have a hidden agenda.
EllaPatti, thank you for sharing your story. I am so sorry to hear what a hard time you went through. I always used to think of affairs as being between people who just want to have sex, and just recently I’ve realized how they grow.
Besides occasional compliments (e.g., wow you look great in that color), it used to seem very platonic. He frequently mentioned his wife, too, which made me feel comfortable. Maybe he didn’t want to admit to himself that he was doing anything wrong, so he kept bringing her into the convo? Or he wanted me to put my guard down? Over the last couple weeks he behaved in a way that would at times make me think he was coming on to me, but then at times would make me think he was really friendly. So I continued to keep my guard down, and that’s when my feelings developed. It wasn’t until his remarks about liking me, wishing he’d known me before, etc. that made me realize maybe it wasn’t so innocent after all.
If you don’t mind me asking, how did your guy make the jump from occasional touching and flirting, to asking to meet up? I don’t Think my coworker would be able to do that because it’s not very private where we are, but I’d still like to be prepared.
PattiElla. Wow what a coincidence. Is this the same guy as mine? He said the same thing. I looked amazing in pink, green, whatever color. Or he invited me out for coffee break to discuss work. At a nearby coffee shop the compliments would start coming. Oh he also “loved” my hair all the time. How amazing I was. Apparent interest in my life to establish a quick bond.
He mentioned his wife but only general things like “I dont know what to do about her. Or its not going good. Shes jealous of my female friends. He appears to have a few of them he helps out frequently with errands.
Would frequently talk about his female friends, how he helped her with this or that. I started feeling jealous alot & felt he was really popular with the ladies. I would kind of obsess over this too.
The touching started in coffee shops during our coffee breaks. Or once or twice in the stairwell too. After awhile I found out he was “visiting” other females at work at their desks to chat.
He would vanish in evenings and weekends. I was his office girl. But I obsessed about him night and day. Ge would text me at work with sweet nothings. It all amounted to nothing but empty compliments and him wanting attention. Nothing else.
Part of the overthinker clubjust want to know if he was being friendly or sending signals.
Stop looking for stuff that isn’t there! if it is why care about it? You are creating unnecessary drama in your mind. Playing out scenarios that most likely will not happen. If you see red flags flying then heed the warning and back off. Trust your gut.
HoneypieIt strikes me that you are hoping very much that he is attracted to you, whilst feeling bad as your moral compass knows you should not want this.
Hard dilemma to be in. He’s a taken man, so your choices are see where it goes with him (could be that your attention massages his ego, nothing more, or could be if you’re up for it he’ll have sex with you) or distract yourself in every way you can. Go on dating sites, get hobbies, go out with girlfriends and detach your thoughts so much from him. It’s glaringly obvious you are very preoccupied with him. It’s not healthy for you.
BethI empathize with the OP. I came from a family where I was totally ignored. My mom was in and out of mental hospitals. My dad was a womanizer & had no interest in me as a daughter. I got caught up with a MM at work. He fed my need for attention & love. Although in retrospect it amounted to abuse. He came on all platonic & friendly to gain my trust. I think he tuned in very well to what my heart needed and took advantage of that.
As soon as I was hooked he used me for sex, then after a few months discarded me. Done with saying yes so busy, stressed or tired. Or excuses that things are going better with wife at home. In reality, he was out chasing other women at work. Humiliating, ti say the least.
My advice to the vulnerable- stay away from friendly MM at work. Its not really that they want to be your friend
It’s take you on a roller coaster ride, only to make you realize later that they really have NO interest in being a friend to you. It’s all about them.They will feed you empty compliments to hook you. Then when you realize what’s really happening, you pull away. Then they play the victim about awful their life is, how stressed they are. To lure you back in.
Run for your life, please.
EllaPatti-your guy reminds me of my ex. He had narcissistic personality disorder and surrounded himself by women constantly. He also made sure to tell me about it. This coworker of mine is luckily NOT like that. And I can say that with certainty because one of my friends is a lifelong friend of his. If he was like that I’d want no friendship from him whatsoever.
Honeypie-you’re right that I’d like him to be attracted to me. But even if he was AND if he wanted to cheat, I want no part of an affair with him. I mostly wanted to know his intentions so I don’t unknowingly feed into something.
NewbieSo you got a lot of responses. What do you think his intentions are?
EllaMy gut tells me he isn’t fully happy in his marriage and wasn’t kidding when he said he wished he’d known me before. I think he feels a connection and enjoys it. But I don’t think an affair is his ultimate goal. Few people actually set out to have them.
ShoshannahA lot of great advice was given here. The most important thing, Ella, is that whatever it is that is going on or what it could develop into is really bad for you. You’re out of abusive relationship, you don’t need more drama. You need either your time alone or a good healthy relationship. You need your self-confidence restored and emotional stability. Flirting with a married man won’t help with that, let alone an affair. You’re already wasting your time here, thinking about this…. This is not good for you. As for his intentions, I think it’s clear that this is not just being friendly. But then, as Newbie said, this doesn’t have to mean anything. I’ve had more crushes in my life that I can count, more than I even remember. Some of them also when I was in a relationship, but then you don’t act on it and it goes away. I’ve also had men crushing on me, but if I didn’t reciprocate, it would be like yesterday’s news before I knew. Crushes like this come ang go, and they’re honestly mean nothing more than, say, craving for some particular food. You really want something sweet, but two hours later you don’t even remember about it. In the meantime, you’re here asking about this guy. Do yourself a favor and back off. He will get over it sooner than you think, and you will, too, and then maybe you can just be friendly coworkers.
Newbie2The responses you got from the people that can relate had one thing in common: they told you he is feeding you and is playing you. I wish you would have picked up on that part. Also he may not be the complete jerk your ex was but he sure isnt sincere. I doubt his best friends knows how he spends his working days. So the best friend statements mean zero to me. You stay focused on this guy’s Feelings but you should focus on yours and your needs. If a married guy flirts with you, you simply tell him to stop and ignore him. If i were you i spend more time thinking about what got you so misguided about how love feels like. Maybe with a counselor. Because you are wasting braincells on a situation that needs zero brain space. And is also potentially going to harm you. I really hope you can get this guy out of your head fast
This girl“My gut tells me he isn’t fully happy in his marriage and wasn’t kidding when he said he wished he’d known me before. I think he feels a connection and enjoys it. But I don’t think an affair is his ultimate goal. Few people actually set out to have them.”
You could always use it to your advantage when he is venting to you about his wife and offer constructive solutions on how to solve his issue he is complaining about. Be a friend. Do not make it about you. He may not take your suggestions and possibly come up with his own. He’s not going to go to his male buddies for advice because they will just call him a p*ssy. He could go to the wife but it may bring up more problems. I’m sure his wife really loves him and they are both just being stubborn because it requires compromise.
Set boundaries and have it hard coded in your mind nothing sexual or romantic will come out of this between you two because you are the one who is going to stop it from happening. Stop making it all about you and see maybe he is just a guy with nobody to really vent to. The attention from a pretty girl is just an ego boost and nothing more is going to cone from it. See it the same way.
This girlAsk him about his wife and try to help him see the best in her.
ShoshannahRespectfully, but this is a terrible idea. That’s exactly how married men create bonds outside of their marriage – by finding a girl to confide in and complain about their marriages and wives. Op would only fall for him for him more if she was feeling sorry for him. Not to mention that that in itself is already a form if betrayal – talking about your intimate problems that you may have in your marriage, complaining about your wife – to some strange woman that you’re attracted to.
KhadijaRight now you are vulnerable from your past relationship and lonely.
HE has picked up on that.I think he is testing the waters by his comments and behaviors. I highly doubt this is his first time trying to get with a single coworker.
In any case stop interacting with him. No more story time or long conversations. Leave it at hello and good bye. Stay focused on your work.
If the secretary notices so do others in the office, don’t end up in an affair and putting your job in jeopardy.
This guy knows what he’s doing so don’t think for a second any of this is innocent.
EllaThanks to everyone for you feedback again today. He did not come my way today, but I did see him briefly. While he again said that I never Come his way, he seemed much more reserved. Maybe he thought about things over the weekend and felt guilty. Regardless, there was no flirting or suggestive comments, so that’s good.
AndreaYou are a fantasy he gets to have where there are no, what Dr. Phill calls, D*mn Daily issues: a sick kid, chores, bills, a whole household to run with a spouse. Compared to her, you’re carefree and always sweet because there are no responsibilities.
Out of respect for his wife and their children, you need to pull WAY back and keep conversation strictly about work.
WandaAnother horror story here. Married co-worker started acting super friendly. We went for coffee a few times. After awhile he started saying never ending problems at home. I think he wanted me to feel sympathy for him and us to form a close bond.
I always kept distant and didn’t share much. I pulled away feeling he was telling things that were way too personal.
Well he kept approaching me outside around the office asking why I didn’t like him anymore. Seemed to hurt his ego that I was no longer interested.
I told him that I felt uncomfortable. He apologized up and down to my face but continued to show up suddenly at places I frequented. What a creep.
I couldn’t get rid of him for the longest time!
EllaI can definitely see why this sounds bad to people, especially those who had negative experiences themselves. But it definitely doesn’t seem like my coworker is trying to have an affair. I think at most he just enjoys my attention while at work. Especially with him acting more reserved today I think he is really trying to maintain boundaries.
WarasenHere’s a perspective from the other side. This might not be from your coworker’s position but it’s possible. 20 years ago I worked with a woman, around my age. She was getting out of a string of bad relationships culminating in 1 that was physically abusive. He came to the office and hit her outside, I stepped in and stopped him.
She confided in me that she was afraid to leave him, they lived together. I told my wife about what happened and together we got my coworker out of there. Over the next few weeks and months she and I would go to lunch once a week, my wife, our kids and I would stop by her place to check in on her.She knew I was happily married, has met my family but felt I was giving her special attention and misread the intention. I didn’t think I was flirting with her, nothing sexual or anything was discussed. I did give her some compliments when I thought she was depressed. Nothing inappropriate (I think) but like hey you’re stronger than you think or that was a good decision. She told me that she appreciated my help but couldn’t do anything with me because she respects my wife and wouldn’t do anything to hurt my family. I didn’t get what she was saying until my wife explained it to me. She was nice in how she “rebuffed” me LoL.
The situation was just confused. Years later she told my wife that I was the nicest guy she knew up to that point. Even get father was abusive to her mother so she didn’t see a non abusive relationship. She eventually married a great guy.
AndersonI struggle to see a married man as a nice guy who tells someone “I wish I knew you before.”
And there is a big difference between sexual innuendos made as clever wordplay or puns among friends, versus sexual remarks directed towards the opposite sex at work.
Him being reserved for just one day is not evidence of him really trying to maintain boundaries… one day means nothing.
You say you want him to be attracted to you but don’t want it to be an affair. Makes me wonder. What about him telling you he wants to end his unsatisfying marriage and choose you instead?
EllaWarasen-it sounds like your coworker was really lucky to have you. It’s too bad she misinterpreted your intentions. I did keep wondering whether my coworker’s were innocent, and so that’s why I came Here to get everyone else’s perspective.
Anderson-the part about sexual innuendos from a friend vs colleague is what had me conflicted. While I do joke like that with a few male coworkers, they’re also ones I see A lot more, and we have that type of relationship already. So that’s why I was unsure whether to take it as a joke or him testing the waters.
As far as how I’d feel if he suddenly decided he was leaving his wife for me: we would have to get a heck of a lot closer for him to leave a marriage for me. For all I know his marriage is just perfect, and he’s just messing around. The wish I’d known you before remark could’ve been about something other than his wife? But even if he is miserable, and over time we got closer, I wouldn’t want that. He would have to leave the marriage from his own unhappiness completely independent of me. I’d feel terrible otherwise.
Better off singleWhy do you want him to be attracted to you when you know he is married?
It’s never a good idea even if he did leave his marriage out of his own unhappiness. He can easily get what he wants out of you and go back and forth between you and his wife. Plus divorce brings drama, doubt, and emotional instability for awhile.
You’re starting to create an illusion. Stop while you’re ahead. It’s ok to be attracted to a taken person keep yourself at a distance and constantly remind yourself he is MARRIED. As you said in your first post, you could be making a big deal out of nothing.
Better off singleIt feels amazing to be desired and admired. Especially after the abuse or trauma you have experienced. I’m sorry for all you have gone through. Getting or wanting that validation from a married man will only bring you back to square one and keep you broken inside.
NewbieThe responses you got from the people that can relate had one thong in common: they told you he is feeding you and is playing you. I wish you would have picked up on that part. Also he may not be the complete a–hole your ex was but he sure isnt sincere. I doubt his best friends knows how he spends his working days. So the best friend statements mean zero to me. You stay focused on this guy’s Feelings but you would focus on yours and your needs. If a married guy flirts with you, you simply tell him to stop and ignore him. If i were you i spend more time thinking about what got you so misguided about how love feels like. Maybe with a counselor. Because you are wasting braincells on a situation that needs zero brain space. And is also potentially going to harm you. I really hope you can get this guy out of your head fast
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