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  • #537704 Reply
    Jade

    Do feel like you’re honestly capable of only being his friend at this point and so soon? That’s the biggest thing to consider.

    #537705 Reply
    Andrea

    Posts this long over nothing and tells us WE overanalyze… mental masturbation, that’s all.

    #537706 Reply
    Jade

    Andrea, I totally get it but don’t let it bother you so much. Look at another thread that needs responses and post something helpful there. I’m not the boss of the forum by any means. Just a suggestion if this thread is bothering you so much…

    #537715 Reply
    Hannah

    Sarah I’m not trying to probe anything! I’m just repeating what you told us. I’m happily married and have been with my husband 15 years so this isn’t about my issues with men.

    Perhaps I misunderstood your posts. Initially I thought you ended the sex because of the post subject heading and you said he was still trying to get you into bed. And you said he hit on your friend.

    As I said, time will tell if he genuinely wants to be your friend. I’m a bit lost with all of this because what you’re saying keeps changing slightly.

    I do hope it works out for you but I think first off you should work out if you want him as a friend or something more. I don’t know if it’s you or me but one of us is confused!

    And I don’t appreciate being told to get over myself when I’m taking time to genuinely try and help you. I told you from the start I wasn’t sure, time will tell but that’s the feeling I was getting. I think I’m probably better off just wishing you the best. And I really mean that!

    #537716 Reply
    Hannah

    Urgh I hate my phone! Prove not probe etc!!

    #537729 Reply
    Sarah

    Jade, I actually never showed him I was analysing anything. Once I was with him getting ice cream, and he said ” your hair is all assymetrical, itś cute”. And I said “assymetrical how?”, smiling, and to that he said “why do you need to overanalyse everything and think the worst” Another time I jokingly said ” You sound like a general in army” because we were setting up plans and he wrote ” 10 minutes, sharp”. I was obviously joking, but he said I overanalysed . He would NOT say he is in love with me now if he only knew how much I actually analyze hahaha. I go into depth, but then I let go completely, nobody else is bothered (except for you people as you are the ones being victims to my overthinking, but like I said, I dont tell anyone, and I let it go quickly.)

    I understand you, it is a bit unclear what I want, because my first post was so far away from where I am now – right now I basically am affraid to lose such a great person and company. I have people I habg out with, like really old friends, but basically, I selldom find a real connection, and having him in my life has been SUCH a blessing to me. I basically love his company, and want to be with him, close to him, but I dont really want to date him, be in a relationship with him or have sex with him. Wondered if this is possible and how. I am also , like you said, a bit confused. I kind of want him to try, I am so so joyful now when I know he is in love with me, although I am not sure I will want to be his girlfriend ever again.I guess I need the reassurance, I long for affection but at the same time, I know he is bad news, and his commitment phobia will come up again, sooner or later. So , like he does too, I guard myself but want and need his friendship. We will see, all I can do is to be patient, honest and strong. Thank you, you are lovely

    #537738 Reply
    Sarah

    I m trying to duplicate our msg exchange, but it doesnt work :(

    #537740 Reply
    Sarah

    He: I know you are on a date, but just wanted to say sorry for bringing confusion. I´m not ok with you dating others as I feel like we could have been something great. I know this is my fault, I got scared, but I hope you know I mean everything I say and that me being scared doesnt mean me running away, ever. I miss you. Hope the guy has bad breath ;) (remember shark tank!)

    #537742 Reply
    Sarah

    Me: We ll talk when I’m home
    He: Not sure if I have enough courage to tell you these things in person,especially if you don´t feel the same. or via phone even worse Carbs *toughening up*, but sure , we can talk
    Me: on my way home
    He: want to take a ride and get a burger?
    Me: No, too tired
    He: You changed your mind about staying friends too?!
    Me: Meee? NO! I m not really sure U want to stay friends if we are not dating!Or work with me!
    He: I told you I want you in my life, you are way to valuable for me to lose, and I´m not saying that only because I feel the way I do
    Me: You want me to be honest?
    He: Always!
    Me: I know we were great to begin with, but after you withdrew I just can´t relax, and I just cant shake the feeling I had, that I didnt get affection I needed and the bare minimum I got was just so I would have sex with you. Im not saying Im right, but its just not possible to get back to that place… I value you as a person too, I want to be friends, if that is enough for you

    #537745 Reply
    Sarah

    He: I respect that you can´t. I´ll take the friendship if that is all I get, is it enough? Of course not, but I ll take it. I just hope you know that your feeling has nothing with the reality. We signed a 2 year contract, you really think I would be so dumb to use you, of all people for sex, and at the same time put myself in the situation where we have to work together every day? I was holding back on the affection, on purpose, I have to admit that. It just felt completely unrational for me to be in love so fast, and I had to hit the break. I´m not a coward, but I am just not the type, I wanted to slow it down. For me, not because of something you did..
    He: Hello?
    He: I know I should not have used the L word, I´m sorry. just wanted you to know how far from the truth your assumptions are

    #537763 Reply
    Sarah

    Me: Sorry, had to read fairy tales
    He: We can make our own ;)

    #537769 Reply
    Meemee

    so what is the problem then? he seems to be totally in love with you!!!!

    #537770 Reply
    Sarah

    Hannah, really sorry. It just felt like you pushed your opinion on me, and I AM confused. I really like him, know he is wrong, want to keep him in my life, want him to keep hitting on me, and liking me, but want to say no, until I want to say yes, which is unrealistic and kind of unfair to him, but Im just being honest. It is confusing – especially when you have been out of the loop for 6 years like I have. Thank you for the answers and the advise. <3

    #537771 Reply
    Sarah

    Meemee, he did , until he distanced himself, and then I distanced myself and then I broke up, and now apparently he took a step back because he is love. There is no problem really,xcept in my own head I want to be friends for now, just keeping people updated :D

    #537776 Reply
    Sarah

    I wrote that I Never read one where the precious prince runs away scared because he starts to feel something He answered: Harsh. Listen, I would never run away. You know that. In the beginning I was talking about taking it slow and was so scared that you would fall in love and want to get serious quickly that I never realized I was the one doing it, and later knowing you weren`t in the same place just made it worse. Beating myself up. I´m sorry Carbs <3. Wish I could redo it

    #537777 Reply
    Sarah

    Me:sorry for sounding harsh…And no, I maybe wasnt in that place, but I sure was on my way there.. I can´t get too serious because od Aaron, as you know. I need to know someone inside and out to even consider being serious, but being in love has nothing to do with it. I told you in the beginning that I didn´t want to be forced to censor my feelings, which is why I didnt want to be casual in any way, but taking it slowly, and being casual are 2 different things! You said I SHOULD not censor my feelings, and I sked if you plan to censor yours, and you said NO. Apparently, you did. And I wish we could redo it too, but for me, I dont think I could get that feeling back. I do feel like I love the person you are, I just know I couldnt relax in a dating relationship with you

    #537778 Reply
    Sarah

    He: PICK UP!

    Me: Can´t

    He: ?

    Me: phone charging in Aarons room

    He: You think we were CASUAL?? Thats how you think I saw us? I just told you I´m in love with you for Christ sake!!!!!!!!! And sorry for censoring my feelings, it was bigger than me. This is exactly why I hate promissing anything

    He: Look. I know I said we should not mention the past, but I want you to know. I have done this once before. It has been a decade,but it feels like last week. Ran in too fast.I fell in love , gave too much. Lost a lot of job opportunities, didn´t think. Promissed the world, delievered most of it, but it wasn´t enough. It did not end well. I wanted to meet someone, get to know the girl really well, and then decide if it is a fit. It felt like I had no control this time, and I got scared. And I am sorry I did, but dont you think I deserve another shot?

    He: You didnt notice I wanted to see you every single morning, I was starting to get really jelous when you mentioned your colleagues, I did even see with my friends anymore, as I ran to you as soon I had a minute free, I wanted to see you every evening and every night. I was overdoing it, and you were in on it, but behaved FAR more casual than I did!! I was affraid I was too intense and with that level of intensity you still think I was seeing you as some sex buddy??

    Me: No, I dont, not the first 2 weeks. Im talking about these three nights after you distances yourself

    He:I admit I was trying to get into the more casual mode. I tried to treat you more like somebody I was just seeing instead of someone I had strong feelings fore, in hope of minimizing the damage. I tried to show less affection on purpose, to cool myself down. Charged?

    #537780 Reply
    Sarah

    He: wtf I didn´t even see my friends anymore, stupid phone. Hate typing, please charge it
    Me: I am not electricity my dear
    He: You sure are :)
    He:Charge it

    #537782 Reply
    Sarah

    Me- Not yet, I wouldnt be on my mail if it was :)I know that, I picked up on it the same second you did. I just first of all deserve someone who is sure about his feelings and is not affraid to love. Secondly – I am like that, and I´m sorry. I have really hard time to get back in that place now. And lastly, I know it seems like you can do it right now, but you see, I dont think you can. Its just not the person you are – you are the hunter type. You could sit with me as a friend without showing a sign of affection and then hug me for an hour after we slept together. The dissonance is far too big for me.

    #537783 Reply
    Sarah

    Me: I just disslike rollercosters, I analyse things, and I have horribly accurate sense of peoples feelings,as you know. I picked up on these things before you ever did. With you, I would always be on the edge, thinking when I show too much, too littke, what you mean and if you are getting cold. You cant logically plan a relationship, you cant put subgoals and follow them, have a SWAT. Its not business, its a feeling. I want spontanious love, fun. I just see myself being truly unhappy if we get back together, and this little devil of suspicion is there already, so I really dont think there is any use. I´m sorry. This has nothing to do with you as a person, I adore you as a person. I just think you are different than me, I need those little signs of reassurance, I love the small pecks on the cheek, and to you its love when you land me a nice contract. Nothing wrong with that sweetheart, Im just saying this: you would spend your time feeling you cant ever make me happy, and I would spending my time thinking you are not meeting my needs, not giving me what I want. Not because you wont, but just because it doesnt come naturally to you.

    #537791 Reply
    Sarah

    aand ou are right, taking it slowly before you let yourself fall in love would be ideal, but the world is never ideal and feelings are not logic. I fell in love with you too, ask my poor best friend. I was so devastated when you backed off. I spent one entire day disecting every singke word I said and what I could have done for you to get distant. I wanted to give you space, but it felt horrible. I asked you if you were ok and you answered “Why wouldnt I be?” After seeing you 3 times a day every day, you were gone for a day and then behaved like nothing was different, and that is the real reason I dont feel it can work. i need communication, go away for a month, but tell me. Tel me you re scared, you want some distance, or just tell me I¨ll me out of reach for some time, just communicate. My marriage fell apart because we didnt communicate,so not again.

    #537793 Reply
    Sarah

    FFS, you were “minimizing the damage”. You see falling in love as “damage” that you need to “minimize” so you try to get into “casual mode”. I just cant have that, I want to relax, not think about not being too little or too much, not think about anything really. I want love to be easy. I want to take it slow, but not sit on needles affraid of falling for you again. I´m sorry Juicy, you know how much you mean to me, but now Im the rational one and saying this really wouldnt work. Not saying it cant happen down the road, but I think you need to be completely sure and I need to assess whether you are the right fit. We got too intense, for sure, but we lacked communication to say that, and you dealt with it not by communicating, but by becoming distant and treating me like I dont want to be treated. I just value us too much to allow us to lose eachother, and trust me, we would. Maybe we will now too, but at least without resentment and I would stay true to myself. Sorry for the long ms, you know me :)

    #537794 Reply
    Sarah

    He: I liked one sentence in that entire text :( You know what you want and thats good. Kind of unfair to give me hope when it seems like you already have made up yr mind, but I guess you are now the one rationalizing feelings. I would be happy to be your friend, you are so so special to me and I just love everything about you but it will be hard enough for me (maybe you too?) without you giving me new hope. And then you will blame me if I try to get back together. And I will NOT want to hear about your dates, and I guess you don´t want to hear about my dates either ..
    Me: Sorry, I was just honest. And no, I wouldn´t :(
    He: I wont give up
    Me: just dont “try” like you did the last time,and we ll be fine ;)
    He: ??

    #537795 Reply
    Sarah

    Me: your place, me telling you I cant date you..

    He: I was trying to convince you not to break up..This is different

    Me: Next time you try to convince a girl , dont try to have sex with her if she is brealing up because you made her feel like you are in it just for sex ;)
    He: I thought that if we had sex, you would change your mind, we would kiss and make up. And I was trying to just kiss you for a good hour, and talk you out of it, but you are so freaking decisive. There was nothing I could say, you just never gave me a chance to say something, so when we hugged, that was the only thing I could do, to kiss you. And then well, things happened , and hey, I´m a man. I kind of thought if we kissed and slept together, we would automatically be back on
    He: I hate that disgusting friend of yours. And I hate noone. Tell her.
    Me: Honestly, she was just an excuse
    He: Sarah for gods sake

    #537798 Reply
    Sarah

    Me:I couldnt shake that feeling,really, you made me feel cheap. The last time we slept together you kissed me on the fkng cheek when you followed me home. CHeEK! I understand that you felt too much , now, but at the time I just knoew that this guy I was falling in love with was changed and did not treat me right and made me feel like I di not want to feel. And I wanted to keep you in my life, I made that decission long before that night w my “friend”, then we did not see eachother for 3 nights, one day you did not even get to me that whole day, so I had no chance to talk to you. And since you treated me like a friend during the day I just felt it was wrong to talk about feelings during the day. It felt like so many invisible rules, so I kept quiet, and when she said that, it kind of just poured over, although I knew it wasnt likely

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