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I have been seeing someone for about 8 months… We were friends for about a year before hand and he was definitely the pursuer and over time I began to fall in love with him. I was so careful at the start to be guarded and let him make all the first moves. He said I love you first, he would spend every day texting me and making plans. We have been sleeping together for about 6 months but have never really had a talk about boyfriend/girlfriend etc I have just been trying to enjoy the time we are together without pressuring things. Everything has been great we have been really happy except he has completely blown me off for two weeks over Christmas and I have not heard a word from him! I don’t understand what has happened as two weeks ago he was telling me He was in love with me, I was perfect no one has ever made him so happy etc and then he has just not got in contact. We had a really little disagreement because I got a little jealous of a girl we work with and made a sarcastic comment and he said I was being jealous (which I was) and I immediately apologised and said my behaviour wasn’t right and it was my own insecurities with that particular person and not him. He said that was fine and he wasn’t upset with me. We were both away over Christmas so we sort of said bye and I kind of expected some kind of contact and got nothing!
I decided to just do no contact and wait to hear from him but he didnt. He keeps looking at my Instagram pics and stories so I eventually thought maybe i was causing the issue and sent an easygoing happy New year text and got one back and that was it. I honestly don’t know what has happened. I know we hadn’t labelled anything but we are so close and each time we are together is incredible I just don’t get it?
He is back from visiting family tomorrow so I will inevitably see him and don’t have a clue how to act? I have the horrible feeling that he is done with me but I honestly don’t know why as one stupid comment surely can’t ruin nearly 2 years of friendship and 8 really good months together?
Any insight or advice would be great!AnnieWhat did he get you for Christmas?
JenSounds like you werent seeing each other for 8 months… you guys still were friends but i guess wih benefits. He doesnt have to be in contact with you because you are not his gf and he owes you nothing. Maybe next time talk about this stuff before you open your legs.
Trisjust ask him what happened
LizaI couldn’t disagree wit Jen more. He does owe her something, even if they were fwb. Friends don’t just disappear after being intimate. He does owe her an explanation. It may not be what she wants to hear (lost interest, another woman) but can we stop giving this bad behavior a free pass? If one of my sons did that to a woman I would be horrified.
The one thing you should do OP, is to not take him back when he comes around again(and he will). Do not reward that behavior. Enough of this “he owes you nothing” nonsense. I expect respectful behavior from each person I allow into my life, no matter the circumstances. When we expect so little of people they usually delever just that.JillyThank you liza. I do appreciate your comment Jen however i said for months before anything started happening that I wouldn’t do casual sex and it has to mean something. I made a typo before we only started sleeping together in August after a lot of build up (months of getting close and spending time together) and I was sure he had strong feelings for me and I had them for him also. I know he doesn’t ‘Owe’ me anything but to go from texting me all the time spending as much time as possible with me to, declaring his love for me etc he always said he understood my feelings regarding sex and it was about more than that for him as well.
I am just so confused because everything seemed fine and normal and then to just ignore me I think is really hurtful and wrong.
I know liza said he will probably come back but I really want that to happen. At the same time I know I shouldn’t because he hasn’t made me feel nice. It is just so confusing I don’t know what to do. Thank you for all of your help.JillySorry additionally I have to interact with him tomorrow as we work in the same building and are currently involved in the same project. Do I act like i do not care, do I say I am hurt or just act friendly and avoid him? I have no idea, I don’t want to make the situation worse and fear I will do.
JanHere is what I see from what you shared.
1. You say that you told him you don’t do casual sex” but then you did by agreeing to sleep with him and not discuss or push the gf label. If you aren’t a gf, you are casual. How did that not compute with you?2, since he is only in this for casual, when you showed jealousy he may have started to think , woahh. This woman is more into me than I like. So he decided to give you a loud and clear messsage that this is casual by not keeping in touch as a bf would.
You accepted the terms. So to beat up on the guy isn’t really fair, going with the flow usually isn’t in a woman’s best interest.
When you see him again just ask why he disappeared and where this dating is going. I’m afraid he isn’t on the same page with you, but the only way to know is to ask.
JanAct normal when you see him but get clarification. Your fear of messing up? Messing up what? Fwb?
AmandaThis is what happens when you don’t discuss what your relationship standard is. It is really unwise to keep dating somebody when you never discussed if you are boyfriend or girlfriend. I think it is horrible behavior of him and men should never treat women this way if they are decent. But the way the world Works men think they could use women as long as I haven’t announced that she is his girlfriend
JillyI feel really stupid. He seemed so in to me and has been saying he loved me pretty consistently and acting like that too i didn’t really feel like I needed to press labels when we had such a lovely fun time together.
He has had moments before where he had withdrawn a bit and I have given him space and everything has been perfecrly normal if not better again but this has just completely thrown me.
I feel silly that it must have been friends with benefits but to me it wasn’t that and he said all along that to him it wasn’t either and I stupidly believed him.
vI also am OVER people saying “the guy owes you NOTHING”. How would you feel if your friend randomly stopped talking to you? You’d probably be pretty upset and confused. This is worse because they were intimate and he told her he loved her! Maybe she should have talked to him more about exclusivity and labels – but I think he still owes her an explanation.
I think you should just ASK him what the hell is up? You’ve tried pulling away and it’s not really working. If he doesn’t have a damn good explanation then your answer is he is done and you should be too.
AmandaI agree at this point you should ask. And I also agree there is no excuse for a man acting this way. The purpose of labels these days is to protect the woman from boorish behavior, but that doesn’t excuse the boorish behavior.
AnnieHe probably doesn’t want to have a deep discussion. I bet he will be happy to see you but only if you keep it light and fun. Surprise him by not having a problem.
You are doomed if you want to “have a talk”
Suck up the small faux pas you made. Even if he was slightly pissed, I’m sure he has by now see it as not a big deal. Don’t ever mention it again. Don’t ?bring up any problems and enjoy things the way they were before the holidays
JillyThank you everyone you have really helped and I really appreciate you all taking the time to respond.
I will be fun and light tomorrow and not mention any problem and see how it goes. If things go well then I can maybe ask what was going on. If it’s not well and it’s clear he has a problem and he’s done then I guess I can ask what happened then too as there is nothing to lose.
Thank you xx
AidaI am also tired of this “he owes you nothing” BS. Of course he owes you something: respect. The respect of a friend if nothing else, but also that of a man who told you he loves you.
I can understand why you didn’t feel the need to press the issue of labels, Jilly. The man said he loves you after all. That is not casual at all.
Why the hell are you going to be light and fun tomorrow? He’s ignored you. That isn’t ok. It’s upset you because you’re human and you deserve to be treated better by a man who supposedly loves you. Why are you going to act like things are okay?
If he loves you like he says he does, your one jealous moment that you apologized for doesn’t matter. If he loves you like he says he does, you can get upset about him ignoring you and it won’t hurt things. You acting like everything is okay when it’s not WILL hurt things, because it will show him that you don’t have a lot of self-respect. That you will accept poor treatment. That you’re desperate for any scrap he throws your way.
If I were you I would give him the cold shoulder. If he asks about it say he’s ignored you for two weeks and you expect more from a man who supposedly loves you. If he walks away then he does not love you and doesn’t want a relationship with you. If he sticks around tell him you need to define the relationship and he needs to step up and not ignore you.
Expect more for yourself.
OmgI would not be easy breezy either. I would ask what is up? Clarify this relationship and then decide if you want to stay or move on. A bf doesn’t disappear on you. And he isn’t a bf. So I think his response won’t really make you feel better because he has done great job so far avoiding making you a gf.
peggyI may be old and don’t get the way of nowadays,but if a guy said he loved me (and I was sure it was not a ploy for sex),then I would imagine I was his girlfriend. Anything else he considered me to be would be B.S. to me and a guy that was flakey and or a jerk.
LizaWhen you see him tomorrow I would be professional and that’s it. No smiles or flirtation or how was your holiday etc. If he tries to chit chat with you just tell him you are there to work and if he would like to catch up socially to please plan some time for you two to meet. If he does, then you can have the WTF conversation but if I were you, I would not do it in a work environment. If he does not then yes, it’s over and he’s a piece of s*it coward.
Good luck Jilly and let us know how it goes.
No nameI 100% agree with Aida. Please do not act all easy breezy. What’s going to happen is the same thing I did with my ex. I would get upset bc his communication was poor, but I wanted to come off as “the cool girl”. So I always acted like everything was fine even though i felt hurt. Guess what happened? The resentment of him not treating me right built up and would come out after drinking or after a bad day at work and a huge fight would ensue. If we would have talked about things more openly, it probably would have helped. It also would have helped if I too had talked more about the future. It was only until I was at rock bottom emotionally that I decided to have the hard talk with him and turns out he never really saw a future.
If you were dating this guy for like a month and he started pulling away I would totally say back off and play it cool. But this is someone you’ve been intimately involved with for 8 months. Labels or not, he owes you an explanation. Talk to him. Stay calm. Use expression like “I feel…” instead of lecturing him.
I’m so sick of the women on these boards telling other women they are desperate or needy or crazy. He does owe you something even as just a friend. That is not okay.
Again I stress do not flip out on him, but calmly talk about this and maybe just have the future talk discussion. Why keep wasting more time “being the cool girl” with a man who may just be wasting your time until someone he really wants to commit to comes along?
AmandaNo no no. If you act like that kind of treatment is okay, that is the kind of treatment you will get. He will think you are fine with a casual relationship where people disappear because you are not “official”. If you want more than casual fun then have a talk with him about his behavior and where this is going.
AnnieWell he didn’t buy you a ring for Christmas so you know where you stand . So what’s the point of demanding to know where we stand.
No nameHe didn’t buy her a ring for Christmas huh? Even if they weee definitely boyfriend girlfriend it’s only been 8 months…
JilllyWell I went in today… prepared to be calm and collected and confident regardless of what happened. I made sure I looked my best but not like I had tried to hard. Was happy and friendly with everyone. I got to the office a little late so he was already at his desk which is the other side but within eye level and he didn’t say one word to me all day.
We didn’t have to interact about work and we didn’t walk past each other or anything like that so he wasn’t overtly rude but he did not come over to me and say hello or text me like he usually would ( we can see each other from our desks but too far away to tall verbally)
I am absolutely devestated. Part of me was hoping he would come over and apologise and things would be ok but he didn’t say anything. Nothing at all happened.
He looked over when I was talking to another guy and That was it, caught eyes for a brief moment a couple of times but he didn’t smile or anything. Just like I ceased to exist.
I’m worried that maybe I have caused problems by not reaching out first but that’s not right is it. I mean he must know that what he has done is hurtful and should reach out first? My friend said to text him what’s going on or ask him to lunch but I didn’t want to demean myself or look desperate if he is giving me the you are dead to me message. I just got stuck in to work and was happy and pleasant and tried to project that there was nothing bothering me all day.
I don’t know what to do now. Do I text and just say what’s up with the silent treatment? Do I try and talk to him tomorrow?
It seems terribly cruel to go from sleeping with someone, being in constant contact, telling them you love them and are in it for the long haul together to just nothing. Especially when I don’t think I have done anything wrong? Even if you dont have relationship labels.
Feeling completely destroyed. Logically I know his feelings towards me have nothing to do with me being a good person or a bad person etc but I feel absolutely devestated.
Any advice on what to do next?
LJilly you deserve an answer by you acting like nothing is bothering you is letting him get away with his cowardice. You don’t think you deserve more from him? If he chooses not to explain his sudden disinterest then you walk away but right now you need to set him straight. This is why guys walk all over women because they’re afraid to speak up and look desperate. This is not desperate it’s the respect you deserve
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