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  • #418349 Reply
    Joyce

    I have dated a lawyer for 5 weeks now. I know we are into each other. He tried to impress me every date we had.

    The problem is he doesn’t have much time for dating. he is a corporate attorney. basically, he married to his job. We only had three dates in the past 5 weeks. He put a lot of effort to make time for me. I really appreciated that.

    Can anyone share experience of dating a lawyer? are they always busy?

    #418360 Reply
    Lagirl

    Yes.

    So you have to decide if you could handle this long term if you did become exclusive. You will always be second to work. They have billable hours to get in (quotas really) that they are measured against and rated in terms of qualififying as partner material. So pressure is always on.

    There are no 9 to 5 hours, so late nights and weekends are typical and taking calls on the fly from clients and collegues. If you have a lot more time on your hands this may not be a good match for you. Do you know if he’s dating with the possibility of a LDR? Or just looking for occasional companionship. Because I have seen the latter…attorney usually do well dating other attorneys or like professions because they can relate to stressful and long hours.

    Women who are not and become housewives usually end up raising the family and carrying most of the domestic burdens.

    #418361 Reply
    Lagirl

    I meant LTR

    #418372 Reply
    Lane

    Hi joyce.

    Yes. You will need to be pretty independent, confident and capable of doing your own thing if you want a relationship with a man like this. If your needy and require a lot of his time then you will be miserable. I actually prefer these men because I like space and very independent but majority of women need constant validation and his TIME to feel secure and loved.

    Which type of woman are you?

    #418387 Reply
    Joyce

    Hi Lagirl,

    He said he was looking for a long-term relationship. But i don’t know if he said that because he knew i wanted to hear it.

    I don’t know how to move forward in this relationship if we only see each other once a while…

    Please give some advice. Thank you.

    #418389 Reply
    Joyce

    Hi Lane,

    I am very independent and busy as well. My job requires a lot of time, too. And I do oil painting, and dance for the rest of my time. I always have full schedule for a week.

    So I am not that needy. Dating a lawyer does fit my schedule. It allows me to do my own things.

    But i am worried we both do our own thing. Then we will not be able to move forward in this relationship. I really like him. So I want to be his girlfriend. But I don’t know what he wants from me.

    #418390 Reply
    Lagirl

    At this point I would keep dating but keep my options open, including dating other men. Have you had sex with him yet?

    It’s all fine he wants a LTR .. But if he can’t find time to spend together, you are correct, how can you truly bond and get to know one another.

    #418392 Reply
    Lagirl

    Do you live far from each other?

    Every date doesn’t have to be an elaborate date or all evening. You could meet at the gym. Have a quick breakfast or coffee. Meet for lunch. A few thoughts…. You could perhaps mention that it would be nice to spend less formal date time doing small things..

    #418407 Reply
    Joyce

    hi lagirl,

    We haven’t had sex yet. I slept over in his apartment once. But we didn’t have sex because i wanted to wait. And he respected.

    We don’t live very far. Actually, our office buildings are next to each other. haha…
    So I will ask him for having lunch one day.

    I feel he is a little passive. he can’t tell his schedule until the dating day. that means he could cancel the date anytime… but when we had dates, he always made plans and sent me the options.

    #418417 Reply
    Lagirl

    Really? Ugh.. I don’t like that. That means he keeps you hanging? He should be fitting into your schedule.. So this means you are waiting on him? Do you ever turn him down?

    #418447 Reply
    redcurleysue

    My daughter is marrying a lawyer…his time is very much at the mercy of clients and billable hours. He was working on Sunday.

    Any man will make time for you – one way or another – but with certain professions time is a limited commodity…doctor, lawyer, etc.

    You have to determine what is really work time and what is “I am seeing other women” time. You determine that by quality time and are you moving ahead in your relationship.

    #418448 Reply
    redcurleysue

    My daughter is marrying a lawyer…his time is very much at the mercy of clients and billable hours. He was working on Sunday.

    Any man will make time for you – one way or another – but with certain professions time is a limited commodity…doctor, lawyer, etc.

    You have to determine what is really work time and what is “I am seeing other women” time. You determine that by quality time and are you moving ahead in your relationship.

    #418489 Reply
    Joyce

    hi redcurleysue,

    I don’t think he is dating other woman. At lease he doesn’t sleep with women. Because he always wants me to make a hickey on his neck. (of course, the place his shirt can cover.)

    He is very cautious about move forward in a relationship. He told me none of women he dated could handle his schedule. They always left him. So he got hurt many times. And he is trying to be a partner. He has to work extra hard to prove himself. he said I was the only one wasn’t bothered by his schedule.

    So I am giving him some time to understand and trust me. Because I really like him. I think trust can not be build in 5 weeks.

    #418490 Reply
    alia

    I say give this man a chance, but if he cancels dates on you, I would not give him more than two passes.

    #418497 Reply
    Jenny

    I’ve been seeing an attorney for about 4 months now. *& my father and 2 brothers are attorneys as well… I’ll say that all their schedules vary. My Dad is able to be home at a reasonable hour because he owns his own practice however the guy I’m seeing works at a firm so his schedule is much less flexible. In the beginning we still managed to see eachother at least once a week but maybe because that was during the holidays. He never really asked that I cater to his schedule but there are often times I go over for dinner and after he’ll have to finish up work so I’m left to fend for myself- read, tv, just go to bed. He’s put his time in so he gets SOME flexibility but not much. You should also ask yours what his future plans are in that field, does he want to work his way up to partner, does he intend to open his own practice… What I’ve found to be the most difficult is the stress that comes from these types of jobs. I have to rebalance myself a lot and question whether certain issues are worth discussing because I’m always conscious of his stress level & I absolutely do not want to be a contributing factor. There’s definitely some sacrifices you’ll have to make for this type of relationship but that’s all relationships

    #418499 Reply
    Jenny

    You will go through bouts of insecurity initially because everyone will say “If he wants to see you he’ll make time for you” and that IS true to a certain extent so you’ll have to really be able to recognize if it is in fact work or he’s just not putting forth the effort. Their work load is never ending so with mine we used to get together for yoga or take an hour to hike some trails, sit in the hot tub for 30, things that reduce stress or have some purpose. He became restless otherwise and would think, if I’m gonna be sitting here, I may as well work which annoyed me in the beginning because I live for relaxation so… sacrifices

    #418509 Reply
    Jenny

    The 3 dates in 5 weeks is somewhat concerning though… I completely understand people are “busy”, seems like EVERYONE is “busy”… To tell me that in 21 DAYS you’ve only had 3-6 hours of free time to see me is going to make me really uneasy. Also, these men are thinkers, their trained to not only be able to argue dual perspectives, but WIN their arguments. Very calculating. Obviously there’s always that handful of exceptions, but they use verbal manipulation on a daily basis so be able to hold your own

    #418510 Reply
    Jenny

    I meant 35 DAYS, was thinking 3 weeks… EEEEEEk that makes it even worse. Sorry

    #418511 Reply
    Joyce

    hi Jenny,

    Thank you for your advice.

    He wants to work his way up to partner. He told me that. And he works on finance investment cases. So I understand how busy he would be. Because I dated a hedge fund investor before. I know how that type of people work. (They never rest!)

    Just like you said everyone will say “If he wants to see you he’ll make time for you”. I KNOW… we don’t see each other very often. I feel very insecurity. I am trying to think about the positive side. No matter how busy he is, he always responds my texts. and Sometimes calls me in the office at night.

    People around me couldn’t understand when i told them that he had to check his phone constantly even if we had dinner, watched movie, or went to a concert…

    Nobody supports me to continue this relationship.

    #418513 Reply
    Sherri

    Joyce, if you are already having insecurities then it doesn’t look good. It is up to you what you are able to handle or not. No one knows u better than you. Me personally, I wouldn’t be able to handle dating a lawyer/doctor. I actually got asked by a guy I knew if I was open to dating a doctor recently as he wanted to introduce me to one but he told me that guy’s life schedule and I know I wouldn’t be able to handle that. So even though the guy was a great guy and rich to boot I said pass. As Lane mentioned, the doctor/lawyer’s lifestyle would fit her really well.

    So a lot of ladies can give you advice here but you are the only one who knows if you can handle it or not.

    Also what really are you looking for? A relationship? A long-term relationship? A marriage? Marriage and kids?

    #418516 Reply
    zen2475

    I am an attorney and am well familiar with the burden of the billable hour. I thought I hit the holy grail out of law school at landed a job at a top-tier firm. The minimum billable requirement there was 2,000 hours per year, which equates into a lot more working hours. Then I decided to go out and hang my own shingle, which took up even more time between client work, marketing and administrative tasks. I’m now at a much smaller firm and have finally found a nice balance and much less stress.

    Nonetheless, when I had a relationship I wanted to invest in, or any other interest for that matter, I made time for it. Someone who truly wants to see you will do so, all excuses aside. It’s just that simple.

    #418517 Reply
    Jenny

    Well it sounds tough because it seems like he is interested but it also seems like he has that typical attorney self-importance persona. He’s NOT an on-call doctor, to me there’s no reason to check your phone in the middle of dinner. Mine did that one time, so I got on my phone… He wasn’t pleased but don’t piss on me and tell me it’s rain. BULLSH*T do I think your job entails being on demand 100% of the time. I’m willing to compromise if it’s reasonable, but I won’t be played for a fool or taken advantage of. It doesn’t seem like you’ve set proper bounderies. If you choose to continue I would suggest being less accomodating. Seems like the relationship already revolves around HIS life, wants, and needs and doesn’t take yours into account. And these men are highly sought after so I wouldn’t be so quick to assume you’re the only one unless he’s directly told you so. The hickey thing doesn’t mean anything, some women that chase these men don’t care about that bc they’re just gold-diggers with no self-respect. Not saying this is happening, but there’s a reason for all those attorney “jokes”, in more instances than not, they lack in character

    #429747 Reply
    Angela

    Joyce

    Hang in there. Three weeks is nothing and lawyers DO get incredibly bogged down with work that is often out of their control. I’m in the same situation right now. Been dating a corporate lawyer at a top firm for 2 months, we’ve met about once a week and longer times at weekends. Right now he’s snowed under doing all-nighters but I know he means LTR, we’ve talked about it. Don’t ditch so soon, but as the last post in this thread was a month ago I wonder what the status is?

    #443478 Reply
    Mimi

    I’ve been dating an attorney for 4 years. Their schedule is rough. He takes his work home with him and would be doing paper work until midnight. He is on the phone most of the time, even on weekends since he has his own firm. I’m a single mom and for the past 4 years he probably seen my kids 4-5 times due to his extreme work schedule. Most of the time it’s just him and me. I still long for a relationship that has more time for me and my kids, but he’s showed so much effort into making our relationship work. I have come to the realization that this is how its going to be for as long as I am with him. I still get lonely sometimes, but for the most part when we are spending time together, there’s a love connection.

    My advice to anyone who is thinking of dating a lawyer is to go with the flow and see where it goes. Enjoy and if the day ever comes when you can’t accept his schedule anymore, that’s when its time to evaluate the relationship. Be open with him about what you want out of the relationship. Believe me they don’t want a gold digger. So, if you’re not one, you’re a keeper in his opinion. : )

    #443480 Reply
    Mimi

    Ops, sorry. I meant seen my kids 4-5 times a year for the past 4 years.

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