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Lisa
Hello, all!
My exboyfriend and I were together for about six months. He is in his mid fifties. I’m 45. Throughout our relationship, he wasn’t able to get erect and stay erect with penetration and oral. However, when we were making out and during foreplay with our clothes on, he had no problem staying erect. Also, he rarely ever came. And if he did, it was only by oral. Even then he would repeatedly lose his erection. I never said anything about it. We never discussed the issue. I was fine with situation and felt like he has all the other qualities I’m looking for and I was willing to deal with this.
One day, he came over, looking quite frazzled. I could tell right away that something was up. He started the b/u speech with, “if you’ve noticed, I’ve been a bit like this (separating his hands from each other).” He said that “he doesn’t understand why this is happening, it must be in my head. I get into my head and can’t get out of it. I think I’m effed up in the head. You’re physically, emotionally, and mentally attractive. You’re sexy and so damn beautiful! I feel like I’m being unfair to you. I don’t want to be unfair to you.” Then he started to say something else, but, I cut him off. I said, what you’re saying isn’t true, and I don’t appreciate the “it’s me, it’s not you” bull crap. You’re just not that into me! I’m sure as soon as you meet another woman you’re into all you “problems” will go away. He said, “I don’t think so”. I asked him, just what is it about me that he’s not attracted too. And he yelled at me said “stop, just stop”. My God, look at you! Have you looked in the mirror lately? You’re gorgeous, and you’re sexy, please believe me, this has nothing to do with you.”
I got up and started walking fast. He followed me. He kept saying “this isn’t what was supposed to happen, I tried, I really tried to communicate right now, I thought I was communicating well, but, I guess I’m not”. He said this several times while holding his head.
We were quiet for awhile. Then he said, is there anything else you want to talk about? I said, no, what’s there to talk about? YOU’RE JUST NOT THAT INTO ME!!!!! He just shook his head and said, “I guess I better just go then”. I got up, gave him a hug and told him I’d miss him. He started to cry. Then, he just left.
My question, to you guys and gals, do you think he broke up with me because of his erectile dysfunction? Was this maybe what he was talking about? Without coming out and naming it? Did I jump the gun and assume it was because he “wasn’t into me”? I wonder sometimes……..
and if it was because of his erectile dysfunction, would he be that way with any woman? Did he maybe think his erectile dysfunction was because of me?
Thanks!
LisaHei Lisa. Even though you are 45, you acted very immature, sorry to say, which sure came from a very low self-esteem point. He was direct in saying there is some fynctional problem with erection. Instead of sitting down and finding the way how to solve this (e.g. assuring him you love him for all the qualities, asking whether he is maybe willing to see a doctor and check his health), you blamed him in lying and didn’t want to listen anything.
If you cannot communicate through the problems that every rlationship has, you’d better leave him to be.
If you want to be with him, get yourself together and apologies for not listening and speak further as an adult. This is frustrating, but you are not the only couple in the world who encompassed such issues. There are solutions you can find together.LisaLisa, thanks for the input!
You’re right, I did act immature and maybe with haste. Not making an excuse, I was so taken aback. Everything seemed ok between us. We were seeing each other regularly. Had several plans that were made ahead of time.
The hardest part for me is not knowing for sure, or, at least with a certain amount of certainty, was he:
1) breaking up with me because he’s not into me
2) breaking up with me because of his erectile dysfunction
3) wasn’t necessarily going to break up with me, but, just wanted to discuss the “elephant in room” so to speakAgain, thanks for the reply.
HannahI think you broke up due to an inability to communicate about a vital part of a relationship. It seperated the bond. That may have caused 2 of your scenarios over time.
You start off pretending nothing is happening, that makes you less close, then you lose attraction for someone because they are so seperate to you.
If he wasn’t into you, he wouldn’t have tried to talk to you and fix it. You threw all of this efforts to solve a difficult situation in his face!
All you had to do was tell him you really cared about him but he needed to start viagra and you would have been fixed.
LAnd women wonder why men ghost.
LisaThank you Heather for the response.
You are absolutely correct. Not talking about it early on is what probably led to the demise of our relationship.
It didn’t even dawn on me when he first started the conversation that it could have been about his ED. All I heard was “it’s not you, it’s me” and with everything I’ve ever read and heard about when a guy says that to you, it’s really you, etc……I didn’t understand or stop to try to understand. I can’t seem to stop beating myself up over this. I wish he would have just said, “hey I need to discuss the sexual issue in our relationship”. Just be right got to the point! Also, at some point in our conversation he could have said, “hey I’m not breaking up with you”. Which of course makes me wonder if that was his intention, since we ended up broken!
I appreciate all the insight you all have. Please be patient with me. I’m trying to process this. I don’t really have a lot of people I can talk these things out with.
Lisa@lisa
“He was direct in saying there is some fynctional problem with erection”
Actually, no, I wish he was direct in saying that. He never directly said that during our conversation:(
JanI think it’s a huge leap to assume it’s the sex. Men don’t break up over this unless you are complain8ng or making a big deal of it. Only he knows the real reason for breaking up and most times men won’t give you the real reason, even if you ask. Just because we think a relationship is fulfilling our needs doesn’t mean it fulfills the other person. I agree you acted immature in jumping to conclusions about not being attractive. Men know that women want more from a relationship around the 3-6 month mark, so if he had hesitation, he knew he should cut bait and not continue down a path that for him wasn’t leading anywhere. It could be the ED, but it could be that he didn’t see you as the one for him.
I think you are twisting this to be about sex and it could really be that he didn’t see afuture with you regardless of the sex.
I know that hurts, but at least he didn’t just disappear, he tried to be honorable and at least tell you face to face.JanAnd he didn’t invent the phrase it’s not you, it’s me. That’s just a kind way to let you down without saying something to hurt your feelings. Would you have felt better if he said, he just wasn’t feeling it for you?
Lisa@Jan
“And he didn’t invent the phrase it’s not you, it’s me”
I never said he invented the phrase.
“I think it’s a huge leap to assume it’s the sex.”
And I didn’t assume it was because of the ED. I actually assumed it was because he wasn’t into me.
Amy SHi oh yikes what a mess. I think you need to give him a few days and just leave things be then resume contact with him. It doesnt sound to me like he intended to break up with you. Thats not how this conversation sounded to me. You know erectile dysfunction is a medical problem, its his anatomy letting him down its not a he doesnt fancy you scenario so please stop thinking that and please be more understanding about it. This is absolutely mortifying for a man to deal with. For him to raise this issue even would have been horrendous for him. He sounds like he does really want to be with you and that he really does fancy you, why else would he put himself through this humiliation on a regular basis. You need to sit down like adults and discuss this with him. As uncomfortable as it is, it has to be adressed but let him do the talking and dont jump to absurd conclusions that hes not into you. Im sure he can get this problem sorted out by a medical practitioner. Good luck. x
peggyLisa.ED problems are very complex and can have many causes. Men in his age group commonly have erection issues. If you want to enlighten yourself-read “The New Male Sexuality” by Bernie Zilbergeld Ph.D.
I do not understand your insecurity and why you handled this so poorly. You did not let him speak but just assumed,so you really are not clear on what he was saying and what outcome he wanted.
My man of one year is in his late 50’s. He has E.D. from a stroke and Viagra etc. does not help. I know that it is hard for wpmen to understand how ashamed and unmanly these issues make a guy feel-they do not realise that it is quite common.
We have sex but can’t do regular intercourse-sex is just a physical manifestation of love and can take many forms.
If he was trying to talk about the E.D.-you assuring him that the two of you could seek solutions together and tt you loved him,would have been a place to start.
I read and educated myself so I could help him feel good and figure things out. Reading and going to a doctor or sex trapist can help these situations.
I am guessing if this is about sex (he feels terrible and thinks you should have a “real” man)that it is 100% not that you aren’t attractive etc.
So,if you wish you were still together,if you wish to listen and understand and know you jumped to hasty conclustions-this is what I would do:
Call him and ask to meet. Tell him that you feel bad because he was trying to express sometime important to you and you cut him off and made assumptions.Tell him that you miss him etc. (if indeed you do, and want/hope to be together and this whole thing is not just about you and your ego) and are ready to listen and work with him to solve any issues,sexual or otherwise.
That is it,hope that helps. And whenever a man is brave enough to lay himself bare and talk about difficult subjects-stop.look at him and LISTEN!KarenWhat confuses me is that you and others on here are so wrapped up in the ED piece. He never even mentioned it to you. Not sure what the hands apart reference you mentioned, but to me that says he is pulling apart and being more distant. If it makes you feel better that he broke up over not great sex, fine. But I don’t see anywhere in what you write that he was even referring to this. He broke up with you because he wanted to,
peggyKaren,we don’t know for sure,because she did not let him talk. Assuming he was telling the truth about how great she is-he sounded quite adamant and emotional,it is not unreasonable to assume it could be about his sexual performance. But,we/she don’t/do not know for sure.
If she regrets her actions,she can go talk to him. Maybe he will still break it off for reasons we know nothing about. But I would bet the sex has lots to do with it. If he is “just not that into her,in general”-then she can find out and move on. And Lisa-if a guy breaks up,it does not mean there is anything wrong with you-you just are not a match for him.RavenYou didn’t let him speak or be heard…
Are you always this way?
EmmaLisa, “not into me” is the new dummified way to describe many things. You know there is “good” and “bad”, and this is BAD or this is GOOD, so those type of labels exist and float around.
“He was not into you” in his case means he does not feel in love (perhaps). Have you not been in this situation? when you met someone awesome who checks off every single box but you don’t feel it? and maybe feel it for someone who is wrong for you? LOL
In any case, I can bet a large sum of money that he will be back. LOL If you “give him space” (haha) to realize what has just happened.
No doubt he was feeling quite awful about his ED, trying and trying, and then going home and feelingh like crap about it. So he tired to feel this way. LOL
Give him time, let him rest, he is in mid mid 50s, it is very hard for men this age to find a much younger woman (and you are a much younger woman) who would also like them! Once he realizes that he’d be back. I doubt he’d be able to make a graceful come back, his communications skills are that of a teenager, but he will try. Stay no contact with him (do not poke or click anything on social media), be completely gone, and he’d be back.
But in the meantime you need to think if this is what you want for yourself. Granted it is very hard to find a man your own age in your mid 40s but it is still possible. I think you should try. LOL. Mind you they could still have an ED. LOL I see so many guys at work in their late 30s and early 40s being so unwell, unhealthy, losing gall bladders, kidney stones, arthritis, etc etc. ED is part of a person’s general health, and these days people eat synthetic crap, pump chemicals into their body and as a result everyone is sick with something by the time they are 35. So perhaps we should treat EDs as the new norm ladies? LOL. And sing with joy when it is not there.. LOL. Sorry I digressed. :-)
LilaED is such a sensitive issue for men! I went through it with my ex husband and made all the same mistakes you made (thought it was because he wasn’t into me etc)… which only made it worse. I was 23 at the time though!
Having learned from that, now, I would take a totally different approach! It’s not persona, bodies often don’t do what we want them too, especially when we start to age. What you should have done is reassured him that it wasn’t an issue for you, but that if he wanted to try some different medical approaches you’d support it! Tell him that you understand it happens to more men than we think, that there is no shame in getting help for a medical issue. Don’t push, but offer understanding and support.
There is soooooo much shame attached to this for men. They are socially conditioned to think that all their worth is in their wallet and their pants. Which is sad. I feel badly for men that go through this.
He probably DID break up with you because of this, and you probably missed the opportunity for genuine connection by getting all angry and basically accusing him of lying.
Try to learn from it. at 45, if you are going to date middle aged men this won’t be the first time you encounter this issue. Not saying all older guys have this problem, but some do. and some of them will be sweethearts that you could have a wonderful relationship with. Get out of your own head and insecurities and have empathy for others.
Lisa@Raven,
“You didn’t let him speak or be heard…”
Yes. I realize this. I regret it.
“Are you always this way”?
No, actually I’m not. It wasn’t a great day to begin with for me, for other reasons. And when he started the conversation the way he did, it led to me to believe it was a b/u. I was angry because it was so out of left field.
As far has having understanding and empathy for the ED issue, I feel I did have that throughout our r/s. I was very understanding. Never made him feel less in any way. Like I said before, I accepted him as is. I never brought up the subject. I figured if/when he wanted to discuss it, he would bring it up.
I know that the times we were intimate, afterwards, he would get quiet and I could tell he felt bad.
I remember, about a week before this conversation, he had said something about how when he was younger he had issues PE. I thought this may be a good opportunity to talk about our sex life. So, I said that from what I understand, it happens sometimes in younger men. Then I said, you don’t have that anymore. I was about to say something else to reassure him that sometimes sexual issue happen for whatever reason. I wanted to tell him that I don’t care. It’s not a deal breaker for me. But, he changed the subject. And, I never had the chance to say those things.
Maybe he equated his inability to stay erect to not feeling it for me. Not having chemistry. Maybe he just got tired of feeling bad afterwards. Maybe it’s both. Or none.
By the way, I did reach out to him. This was awhile ago. About a month after we broke up. I just wanted to meet and have a conversation. I said, I’m sorry I flew of the handle and I feel like I didn’t really let you speak, I just cut you off. I asked him if that was an accurate statement. He said, yes. Then he said, “it’s understandable, you were upset”. I said I would like to meet and talk. He said, there’s really nothing to talk about. But, if I really want to meet, we can meet next week. I said, look, I don’t want to push you. It doesn’t sound like you really want to meet. So, let’s just leave it at this for now. If you ever want to talk let me know. I’m leaving the ball in your court.
We belong to the same organization, so we run into each other often. We say hello. We chit chat, exchange pleasantries and such. Sometimes, it seems like he tries to get my attention. Last week, he said, come here, give me a hug. It’s hard (no pun intended), I miss him.
Do you think he’ll have these ED issues with other women? He had no problem getting aroused by me. As long as the clothes stayed on, no problem.
aliaLook up delayed ejaculaion and how men get that way. Often it has to do with their relationships with their mother. Many can’t be in healthy relationships for the rest of their lives. It’s not you, it’s me is a simplified version, but it holds true because the results are what they are. He was willing to risk the relationship by not communicating the issues sooner, until the relationship got to this point and you being insecure turned a blind eye on the issue. I do believe that if a man is truly into you; he will make everything possible to make a relationship work and seek professional help of need be. It is him of course. It’s not you. It’s not just ED, it can be deep seeded trust issues and resentments towards women in general, especially true if this man is a life long bachelor. I don’t think your reaction was particularly great, but I can tell you I was in a similar situation and I went the compassion route and trying to solve the issues and talk about them an all I got was more of my time wasted.
Lisa@alia
He does have issues with his mom. There is definitely quite a bit of contention there. And he’s been through a couple of divorces. One of them was because she cheated on him.
peggyLisa-now the he seems uninterested in further discussion-you need to stop thinking and speculating about it and let it go.. The whys don’t matter here because he does not want (so he says) to work on this,with you anyway.
Never tell a guy ( in the future) that whether or not their penis works does not matter and you don’t care-THEY desperately care and it seems dismissive to them. Reassurance that you will go to the doc with him and that this is common helps. Also that you two can play and pleasure each other without worrying about any particular result-just expressing love to each other.peggyAlso,it seems you have a way of putting words,explanations in his mouth,a guy’s mouth. You told him he did not have E.D. anymore?That is a shutdown,assumption right there! Going forward with any man,sex issues or not-you need to LISTEN!
JanI don’t see where he broke up over the ED. And if he did want to discuss that, he had even a second chance when you met up again. Which you failed to tell us until the last post. Why is it so hard to understand he may have broken up for totally different reasons than sex? While it’s a difficult issue there are all kinds of drugs and treatments. Time to just let it go. Omg Alia. Now you are saying he has mommy issues? No one knows why he broke up except him. This is analysis paralysis over a guy who had a couple chances to work it out and still wants to move on.
peggyJan-no one knows why he broke up. Because she did not really give him a chance to speak his truth. But his E.D. is NOT an unreasonable explanation. I don’t know how old you are or if you have ever dealt with this but as a person who has, it seems the most likely reason. Anyway,you are right that Lisa needs to just MOA.
Lisa@peggy
“You told him he did not have E.D. anymore?That is a shutdown,assumption right there!”
No, I never said that to him. He had said that he used to have issues with PE. Premature Ejaculation. Please, reread my post above.
I never got the chance to give him any assurance or support because I waited for him to bring the issue up. There was never a time during our r/s that I felt I could bring it up myself.
There were a few times, at the beginning of our relationship, after we would get intimate, where he would say, “I want you to know, it’s not you.” “I just get into my head”. “It will get better”. I would say, I understand, We’ll figure this out.
His ED problem was from day one, from the very beginning of our relationship. I know for a fact he was VERY into me at that point.
You’re right, he isn’t doing anything about trying to reconcile. I’ve come to accept that. Doesn’t make it easy. I know I will heal from this. It’s just taking some time. Especially, since we run into each other often. It’s bittersweet……..
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