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December 5, 2014 at 7:00 am #380962Harley
NOTHING will change….until you all decide TO change it. stop with the vicious cycle of the same actions… it’s getting you all nowhere. resist the temptation. keep moving forward instead of wanting to go backward.
December 5, 2014 at 7:34 am #380972ImenamHarley, I know nothing will change that’s why I have stated in my earlier posts that I have to move on with or without him and not making it known for him like telling him that I’m moving on. It is important to build that emotional independence that with or without that person in your life, you’ll be okay anyway cause he can’t control you any longer cause you are as emotionally stable as it gets. It’s there where I wanna be.
December 5, 2014 at 7:36 am #380973YamsImena, I’m sorry to say this but I don’t think the guy you’re dealing with is clueless. I just went back and re-read your story and he’s definitely NOT clueless at this whole dating thing. He has not just one but two girls hooked. and he knows just how much to give that you’re still clinging on despite the fact that he’s got another girl. He knows exactly what he’s doing. Stop giving him the benefit of the doubt and being so upset with yourself. The only mistake you made was getting involved with a man who is a douche. You did nothing to push him away.
When I say clueless, I mean guy who finds it terribly hard to approach women, has zero idea when he’s done something right or wrong (and when he finds out he’s done smth wrong he’s so sorry), has zero idea how much communication women need (and when you tell him he steps up) etc. i mean literally clueless where dating is concerned because he’s inexperienced.
Call a spade a spade and start feeling angry at this man.
December 5, 2014 at 7:47 am #380976Imena@ Yams When I say clueless, I mean he doesn’t know how he feels about whom but whatever I’m done with him. It’s a waste of time and I’m moving on from him. I know it’s not worth the pain anymore. Yes, it was my mistake, BIG TIME, and I had a hard time trying to forgive myself for what I did but honestly , now, I don’t care what he does. I want to be in that point and be as stable emotionally that I don’t care AT ALL what he or somebody else does. I may say I’m not there yet 100% but I’m on my way and I’m better each day.
December 5, 2014 at 7:49 am #380977ImenaAnd yes I do take my own responsibilities. It was not completely his fault. It was mine,too. I was weak to say NO even though I knew what I was doing was wrong.
December 5, 2014 at 4:05 pm #381100JeanineHarley I’m going crazy with all this. I’m a why person and he’s giving me all over the map answers. He keeps things open then I get excited then he shuts down and says he walks away with good memories. Then he sends me a picture of his thing. He says that he’s trying not to make dates and think of me crap like that. Yes Harley I’m trying hard to let go but dang he makes no sense at all. He says he’s hurting too. Yes I’m mad and on the break of tears. Either I’m one dumb woman or I’m just touch in love with this man. I know I need to delete all the emails text and pictures. Yeah I know I need to move on but it’s only been 3 weeks. I just wished I could turn my mind off and sleep. Still going crazy
December 5, 2014 at 4:15 pm #381102ClaireHi Ladies,
I’m reading a book called ‘Second Firsts’ by Christina Rasmussen. The author lost her husband to cancer but she is grief councellor and talks about how she helps clients to use their grief as a launchpad into their new life rather than just being a survivor of grief. She doesn’t blind you with science but talks about the biology of the brain and how when we keep thinking the same things (about our exes) we are strengthening those areas in our brains, we need to start trying to think of and do other things to strengthen and build new neural pathways which are to do with all the new things we love. She talks about it like starting a brand new life, how scary it can be, but that we can’t let fear overcome us and be trapped in the past. We have to keep making changes and moving forwards. She talk about doing it in small steps – assert yourself in a particular situation, change your car, start working towards your dreams, unhappy with your career? start acting and actually doing something about it. If we sit still worrying about our exes nothing is going to change! I’ve found this book very powerful and within just two evenings of reading it i’m beginning to feel miles better.
Last night was the first time I slept right through and when I woke up he wasn’t the first thing on my mind!!! That is the first time that’s happened to me!!! It was almost as if I had to remind myself of him, and then I stopped and thought – why the hell am I doing that? Waking up without a cloud of misery over me and a bed feeling in my gut was great! I woke up happy this morning with no immediate thought of him.
Embarrasingly I still haven’t stopped fb stalking and accidentally friend requested someone who I was stalking as this person had been out with them on the weekend and had pictures of them on her profile!!! Oooops!! I retracted the friend request and blocked her but I know she will have still got a notification. To be honest I just have to laugh that one off and learn a lesson from it. I don’t really care what any of them think, it;s just Facebook – she could have cropped up as a friend suggestion and I could have clicked it by accident so i’m not going to sweat and feel bad about it. I just need to learn a lesson haha!
I am going to go shopping with his mum and sister as my motivation for seeing them has nothing to do with him. I doubt they will even tell him we went out together to be honest and i’m not going to bring him up as I don’t want to make it awkward, and to be honest I don’t want to talk about him. I’m going there to see them because I really value them as friends and that’s all, so I really don’t see a problem.
I really don’t want my ex back as he is right now. He’d have to leave her and come back as a changed man and I doubt he can develop all of the qualities i’m looking for over night. He just wasn’t right for me and deep down I always knew it.
December 5, 2014 at 4:51 pm #381107ImenaClaire, I am so happy you didn’t think about him in the morning. I’m happy he wasn’t your first thought when you woke up. Ohhh, how I wish to get there. Thoughts of him still torture me.
It’s great you are reading that book and that is helping you. I wish I could forget,too. I don’t know how.
December 5, 2014 at 5:08 pm #381111ClaireIt will come in time Imena! You have to want to move on and put the work in to do so. Be kind to yourself too, treat yourself like you are sick and do lots of nice things and look after yourself! It all starts with you. If you can’t take care of yourself and make yourself happy then you aren’t ready for your ex or anyone else to come into your life.
December 5, 2014 at 5:18 pm #381114ImenaClair, thank you! You’re so right again. I have to be patient and treat myself right. I’m just mad at myself for falling so hard for him even though I knew it was wrong. I don’t think he will ever come back on my own terms, to be mine and mine only. And honestly, I’m not ready to date someone else either.
Anyway, thank you for your advice. You keep strong and congrats cause you’re doing great!! I’m on my 4th day of NC and it’s still early to get used to it but it will get better with time.
December 5, 2014 at 6:00 pm #381124Claireyes, don’t worry about dating anyone else. If you do it before you are ready the relationship has less chance of succeeding, i know this from past experience (on several occasions!). Find yourself before you find someone else would be my advice. Keep living and believe that there are far greater things ahead than any we leave behind! Focus on your new exciting life, you really can do anything you want right now so enjoy that.
December 5, 2014 at 6:27 pm #381131ImenaYeah, thank you. Now I can do anything I wan right now. You’re advice about finding myself first is right and that’s what I am trying to do. I feel like I was trying too much to impress him and I didn’t have to incest that much when he wasn’t committed to me. Anyway, yea it’s time to go now and let things be. I think we all need to focus on our bright exciting future cause we all have one and you girls gonna be fine, all of you. It takes time and it’s different for anyone, but at the end things go just they are supposed to, just as they were meant to. Sometimes it’s just not meant to happen but we have to be sure that either way it’s for the best.
December 5, 2014 at 6:29 pm #381132ImenaIncest LOL- I meant invest. Sorry, typing from my phone and it sucks sometimes.
December 6, 2014 at 2:58 am #381213buttercupYou need to change the thoughts that are trapped in the sub conscious mind, and not the conscious mind. I read an article about this a couple months back, when I reached that point of being so tired of thinking about the ex.
I repeatedly throughout the day told myself I deserve better, he’s no good, he didn’t love me etc. Everything we talk about etc goes into our sub conscious mind, so the more we dwell on the nice times and how much we love them, so thoughts stay more dominant, and we keep sending them to the sub conscious. The bad thoughts as I stated above need to take priority and eventually those words will over power the sub conscious mind.
I kept drumming it into myself, and also every time the ex popped into my thoughts I’d tell him to fuk off.
It has helped a lot, and although I’m not completely healed yet, I’m in a much better place than I ever imagined to be so quickly.
I’ve had a bit of a head fuk this last two weeks as we’ve had communication, and he’s typically talked about wanting me back, but those thoughts I’d drummed into my mind are standing strong, and whenever I get a bit maudlin about the good times, the pub conscious mind is screaming at me ‘he’ll hurt you again, he’s no good, he hurt you etc’
I’m doing ok, and the more time I spend with my new guy the more I’m starting to like him. I hope old fuk face just continues to disappear into my thoughts as something that once happened. An old memory!
December 6, 2014 at 4:32 am #381221ImenaButtercup, I’m so glad you are recovering!! You go girl! Yes, I need to focus more on how he was treating me, like being so self- centered, asking me to comprise with things I don’t usually do, taking me for granted etc. Do I miss him?? Yes, I do unfortunately. I spent hours thinking of him, of us, but it’s taking me nowhere so as you say I should change strategy. You know? A part of me still is waiting for him to make a move and tell me that I’m the one he loves and wanna be with but it’s never gonna happen. As hard as it is, I know I have to move on. I have no idea whether he’ll contact me again sometime but I wanna forget about him. It was just a lie. Maybe I’m in love with what i thought he was.
I’m glad it is someone new in your life. I’m glad you guys are going well with each other and liking each other. Enjoy it!!
December 6, 2014 at 5:43 am #381230buttercupIts not easy to turn your mind off. When I was with the ex for 20months he was in my head all the time. That doesnt just stop when he left my life. For almost two years now he has entered my head at least every ten minutes. I cant wait for the time I realise he hasn’t been in my head for one day!
My ex was self centred. He’d admit himself he is a selfish man. I still miss him too. Some days I long for him so much it consumes me. Talking to him last week was healing in a way, but I also noticed that from talking to him my new found motivation declined and I was back to brooding in bed and being exceptionally tired again. He has this effect on me. A part of me also felt happy to have him back in my life even in such a small way. He felt that too as he said on the phone that from talking to me over 3 days he sensed he felt happier in himself.
We’re like a drug to each other. We make each other feel so good, yet also are so unhealthy.
December 6, 2014 at 6:32 am #381236HarleyGlad to hear most of you doing ok. I had a bad night. dreamt of hi all night. Neww house is mine to move into but as is typical, a house nearer home and job just came back on the market. I will TRY to sell new house but I don’t hold out much hope. Like Claire says, I’m using IT to move forward. I packed my first carload of boxes and hope to travel there tomorrow with a mate. Whilst packing, I came across old photos of Frank and I and others from 23 yrs ago. I forgot I had a few of him.thought I had only one. Very bittersweet, Happy and crying at the same time. Oh well…. keep plodding forward !
Claire.. good work re dreams/waking up..hope I get there soon.
Imena/Jeanine.. keep plodding forward like me. NONE of our guys are stepping up……….so.. LET GO. NO EFFORT being put in.
Buttercup…………..keep going forward like me. I knew D would try this craic… but he’s not going to change. NEW guy sounds sooo much better. D wants the “mammy” back and what he can’t have.. someone else has you now. Of course he wants YOU back too… but he will just revert to old. Like yourself I keep trying to distract myself… houses HELP !!
December 6, 2014 at 6:35 am #381238ImenaButtercup, at least you’re keeping in touch. I don’t think he will ever text or call me. He disappeared without a trace, not saying anything, identifying me with stress and negativity.
Anyway, I totally understand you. I can relate to that since this guy I’m talking about has the same effect on me,too. It makes us happy to talk to each other, we both love it, but it’s unhealthy. It’s toxic. I don’t know if I will ever hear from him again.
I’m afraid it will take me a lifetime to get over him if I ever can.
December 6, 2014 at 6:58 am #381241Imena@ Harley. Hey girl, glad to hear from you. Yea, this house thing looks a distraction, something you need right now. I hope everything goes well while you move and with this JOB around the corner. You gonna do great!!
Yea, our guys are making no efforts. They never will. It’s worthless. You’re right. LET GO!! That’s the answer!
December 6, 2014 at 7:07 am #381242buttercupBut the keeping in touch isn’t necessarily good. When there is no contact it is hard. SO HARD!! But contact messes with the head. It gives false hope. It makes you think what if.
When you’re not in contact you have no choice but to focus on moving on, and no choice to assume they are too.
I dont know what D’s game is. I’ve heard no more since Monday now. He says he wants me back. But what is he actually doing about it? Nothing! Has he dumped her? No. Has he tried to arrange a time and place for us to meet up and talk face to face? No. Has he put in any effort apart from texts and calls? No! What do his actions tell me? Everything!
I think he just wanted to know I was still there. So that if it didn’t actually work out with her I was still on the sideline as his second choice. Another option. The fallback girl.
I worried that contact with him would make me distant with new guy but it hasn’t, thank goodness. I went out with a friend last night and new guy and his pals were in the same place. He invited us to join him and his pals to eat at the same table. He brought up my art work on FB and was showing it to them, bigging me up. He didn’t let go of my hand. He kept kissing me. He included my friend in conversation. (D, over 20 months had no interest in meeting my friends). New guy told me his pals liked me, and were impressed. He acted like he was proud to be with me. He noticed other guys looking at me. His actions told me he likes me. And I like him. Really like him. I came away thinking I could actually fall in love with him.
As much as D still dominates my head and I do wonder ‘what if’ I dont actually want to walk away from new guy either.
So onwards and upwards!!
December 6, 2014 at 7:15 am #381243HarleyBC…………. new guy sounds “some kind of wonderful !!”
D.. a shit. Yep…………fallback girl. maybe he needs ego boost and new grlis not treating him as nice as YOU.
Seriously…………..he HAS too many issues. AND as you say………….all talk, the gift of the gab Irish………….NO ACTION.
Stick with new guy.
Imena.. we will all be fine. It’s harder for you because he was your 1st guy. Unfortunately ALL these guys have shown their true colours…………I really do think……for us…………THERE IS NO WAY BACK. We just have to deal with the heartache, prop each other up and get over it. No other option or choice.
December 6, 2014 at 7:21 am #381246ImenaThe guy I’m talking about is involved with another girl,too, and that’s the big problem. He said he wanna be with me but he is still with her. It doesn’t matter how crazy he acts and all that, what he says and all those words. What they are doing is nothing. Now this guy is having his final exams and has not contacted me. We even had an argument and he told me that why do I always have to add stress when he already has plenty I said I’m sorry but we haven’t talked SInce then. There is no point anyway since he is with her. Plus, I am not involved with anyone else so far and hr knows I’ll be here anyway.
December 6, 2014 at 7:25 am #381249ImenaYes, Harley. He was my first one and he knew it and knows it and yet doesn’t seem to care that much. His loss, BIG TIME!!! Maybe someday he will get to understand this but it will be too late.
December 6, 2014 at 7:25 am #381250HarleyOh Imena. another gf… run, run, run, this guy is showing NO interest. Definately time to cut your losses like me and move on. AND…………..don’t be waiting for him.
December 6, 2014 at 7:42 am #381253ImenaYes, Harley he is still in a relationship with that girl he had before me. He says he will break up and gives me some reasons for which he is waiting and not breaking up yet but he is not doing it yet, so I don’t know. It is kinda hard for me to let it flow like this.
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