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December 9, 2014 at 5:04 am #381973Imena
It sucks. It’s holiday’s season. It was such such a “nice “surprise. I, too, hope he be honest. I don’t deserve this but I take on my responsibilities and I accept my mistake for getting involved in this shit. I’m sorry he didn’t see what we had and what it could be. His loss! BIG TIME!! It’s gonna hurt and there will be days when I’m gonna miss him but this is not worth it. You’re right!! They are not good enough for us. I’m gonna be okay. I love you, too. You’re a good friend! Thanks!
December 9, 2014 at 5:20 am #381977SassperillaI’m feeling better today. More accepting that it’s really over. More clear on the fact that I did nothing wrong and would I want to be with someone who can turn so quickly and be so cold. No I don’t. As you say Imena, HE will miss ME. He won’t meet another girl like me. Once he’s out of this stupid huff he’s in he will remember all the good stuff he could have had with me and be gutted that he threw it away.
Chatting to some guys on Tinder but to be honest I think I will leave any actual dating until after Christmas. Just counting down the days until I am off work for two glorious weeks!!
Another nice side effect – losing weight! Bought myself a new dress for the Christmas party season and going to look SKINNY in it!
December 9, 2014 at 5:28 am #381978Imena@ Sassperilla. Yes girl, of course THEY WILL MISS US and all the good times we had and what it could be but it will be too late or when they want to escape their lives cause they are weak to face it. But nahhhh, no way we be there for them. I’m glad you are chatting on Tinder and are making plans to date after Christmas. As for me… I’m not ready to go on dates. It takes me awhile to get over things and feel ready to go on a date. I need to spend time with myself. Of course you’ll look great on that dress, and you know why??? CAUSE YOU ARE.
December 9, 2014 at 7:41 am #381991ImenaI got my answer. He said he thought I was moving on and that I was with someone else. I told him if that was true I would said him so and asked him what we going on , what he wants to do. He said he doesn’t know, but that he was going to be honest with me and said that his relationship is going on really well now but it could change any second. I told him “Great!!! Move on!! Your loss!! Thanks for using me when your relationship wasn’t going well. Thanks for this present this holiday season. I am sorry you couldn’t see what we got, what it could be. YOUR LOSS, BIG TIME!! Goodbye “my love”!! He didn’t reply.
December 9, 2014 at 8:59 am #381996HarleyGood woman Imena. that’s it. closure now. like us all…time to move on. I hope you start to feel a lot better now.
December 9, 2014 at 9:25 am #382001Molly@Mandy Thank you for the advice. I know its not what I like to hear and what I needed and I was being stupid and I need to let go and move on. I’m working on it. It just sucks that he couldn’t be up front and honest with me, I believed in his character and I felt like I gave him an out multiple times and maybe he wasn’t intentionally trying to lead me on or string me along, but he kind of did when he should’ve shut the idea down completely instead of saying he wasn’t sure and “lets see where this goes”, and “I don’t want to rule it out completely.” I haven’t contacted him in a week and I won’t and I don’t think it’ll be hard for me because I”m embarrassed and everytime I think about it, I just feel stupid for being so naive. This was the farthest I’ve ever gotten to a relationship and with a guy, so it’s all new to me and I don’t understand how guys really are. Wish he meant it when he said he’d still like to be friends or when he told me he liked me and all those stupid things that got my hopes up. I guess I’ll kind of get my answer this week that he never really cared about me ever when he doesn’t bother to text me this weekend for my birthday, which he knows it is.
I’m just taking it hard because I’ve never been in a relationship before and I’ve secretly wanted one so bad, but nobody ever liked or cared about me enough. Before this, I wasn’t exactly happy but I was okay getting high off attention from random guys I never really cared about and hooking up. But I’m delicate and easily broken and it stems from a past of trauma and sexual abuse and abandonment/self-esteem issues. I’m not really equipped for any type of relationship and this is probably what I needed to prove that I’m not ready either. I’m pretty depressed lately and have been struggling with my own issues, at work and with my graduate courses and with my eating disorder. I don’t want to be alone but I don’t want to be with someone either. I don’t want to date and give someone the chance and get myself hurt and invest in anyone, but I’m terribly lonely. I don’t want to stay home alone on a Friday/Saturday night, but everytime I go out and drink and dance and try to kid myself that I’m having fun, I feel even worse. I guess I’m sad because I thought I found somebody who might’ve cared about me, not that I expected to talk to him about any of these things. It’s just hard when you’re technically not allowed to be upset about something because it really wasn’t anything – it was all in my delusional head, but somehow it was more real to me than anything.
December 9, 2014 at 9:26 am #382002ImenaYep, I feel okay. It wasn’t meant to be and no matter how much we like or love someone, if they do not love us back, it’s not worth it. We can’t make them to. He replied several times, saying I was hurting him, he is always gonna be there for him or that I am talking as if I don’t wanna have to do with him anymore, and that with me it was not an adventure but he wished he could have met me before and that I was closer. Bullshit. I didn’t reply.
December 9, 2014 at 9:44 am #382004HarleyYes Imena…bullshit Indeed. god…He has SOME nerve trying to put this back on you.still trying to keep the door open like they all do. ha ha ha.
Molly…keep working on yourself. You don’t sound in a good place for ANY relationship.You have to build up the self esteem and Confidence. move forward in life. don’t be a victim to the past.
December 9, 2014 at 9:56 am #382008ImenaYep, they suck!! I don’t understand what makes him think that I’ll go to talk to him if I have problems or count on him after this? That’s crazy!! Of course he’s got some nerves out there, telling me I was hurting him. It’s all about him !!! That’s how selfish and self-centered he is. I cannot believe it. It hurts more cause he was my friend. We grew up together, respecting each other. I never thought he would treat me this way or put me in such situation and I can’t believe how messy and weak he is. He was my best friend. It’s weird how things change.
December 9, 2014 at 10:18 am #382012HarleyYup. ..weird alright….but true. it’s like I got this bestie mate Michael. I love him as a great mate….but I see him treat woman after woman line shit. u real how they do it.guess your friend and mi e had these sides we just never saw to them. In fairness I don’t think they expected us to fall for them so hard. I don’t think they meant to hurt us.
December 9, 2014 at 10:41 am #382016SassperillaMolly – “It just sucks that he couldn’t be up front and honest with me, I believed in his character and I felt like I gave him an out multiple times…” – YES! Me too. Exactly this. How come they make out they’re these big men in the world and all assertive and businesslike, and then when it comes to it they are utter cowards.
If it was me leading a break up I would be clear about it from the off. I would answer their questions (within reason) and I would stick to it.
Instead of all this wishy washy statements and then ignoring you.
December 9, 2014 at 10:42 am #382017ImenaI know he they didn’t mean to hurt us but guess? They did it. I can’t believe he still saying he loved me and that he showed that. That’s crap!! What did he show? Nothing. Anyway, I know he had feelings for me but not love, no true love.
December 9, 2014 at 10:48 am #382020ClaireHi Ladies,
Imena – I wouldn’t even let him know that you’re bothered. Don’t text him anymore at all – it just looks like you’re still hung up on it all. we know you are but he doesn’t need to know that. Let him think you are moving on and the best way to do that is no contact. He’s made his bed so he can lay in in! I’m in a similar situation to you with my ex getting back with his ex. I think these relationships are going to go tits and up and then the guys will be sorry about what they lost, BUT only if we walk away gracefully. If we keep hounding them with messages, arguments etc then it just confirms that that have done the right thing. The way to get to them the most is just walk away gracefully then they will always wonder if they should have left that super level headed lady who handled everything with class. We’re too classy for this – i head a quote that says “if he’s stupid enough to walk away, be smart enough to let him go”. I like it a lot! When all the hormones and excitement have died down with their new ladies they’re going to have to look at themselves in the mirror and figure out what the hell they are doing.
I’m still suffering with that sinking anxiety feeling every now and then but whenever it happens I just tell myself that it’s because my brain chemistry is messed up right now and I won’t always feel this way. It helps. His Mum and sister were texting me last night and we’ve said we’ll meet again in the new year. It’s a little sad I won’t spend christmas with them and the thought of being replaced with her is a bit upsetting but they already know her, and they know me and it’s clear to see who their choice would have been. I’m not sure if I’m more bothered about their opinion rather than his! haha! I don’t want to speak to soon but I can’t see it lasting. It has disaster written all over it based on history and current and future circumstances. I’ll give it 6m to a year tops, but who know they could surprise me. Surely the old problems are going to rear their head at some point, but I guess that shouldn’t be my concern. Hopefully I will be well on my way to moving on by the time that happens.
So i’m going on a date tomorrow night – going around the christmas markets! I’m excited. I’m going to catch the train so I can have a few mulled wines. I just hope this one actually comes off as the previous guys have flaked on me the day before – we’ve just arranged it now though, so hopefully we’re all set! Just trying to be open minded. I’m not desperately looking for someone but think i’m going to start enjoying the dating experience. It’s not like I have to start a full on relationship if I don’t want to, I can just start dating a few different guys! Play them at their own game! hehe!
Harley – hope the house is going well! I got some mortgage advice this morning and i’m looking to buy next year myself. Going to do some house hunting on the internet tonight!
Chins up everyone – we’re all in the same boat, yep the festive period makes it feel extra shit but no point being miserable, we’ve gotta try and make the most of it – what’s the alternative? :)
December 9, 2014 at 10:49 am #382021HarleyNo. ..not true love. He felt stuff at the time…like they all do….just NOT enough. so…time for us all to breathe deep and live to tell another love story. I have about 3 hits a day on pof.. and rarely one takes my interest. The 3 I gave a chance to do far….complete washout. back to the drawing board !
December 9, 2014 at 11:05 am #382029Molly@Sassperilla Yup. Guys are, to be bluntly and unapologetically crude, pussies. They’re terrified of our reactions. While I still like him as a person and don’t have any malicious feelings towards him, I feel that he was too scared to be direct and honest with me. I don’t necessarily respect him less, but I feel like I’ve been idealizing him for so long, since he was the older boy I used to think so highly of, when the truth of the matter is, at 24/25, he’s just another college boy who doesn’t know how to deal with his feelings or anyone else’s. I could have been over this so much faster if he was honest with me when I told him to be straightforward and candid with me if he was bored of this and wasn’t interested anymore. I have this feeling that he is unintentionally stringing me along because he knows that he’ll miss me if he lets me go and regret it. He’s trying so hard to justify to me that he’s not the bad guy and that he’s not trying to string me on, and no, he is on the bad guy, but he is definitely leading me on because he can’t say, “I don’t want to do this anymore” or “Wait, I do feel the same way, but I’m not ready for this.” Instead he has to go on with this “I don’t know” bullshit.
Either way, I started seeing or entertaining the idea of seeing other people, although I’m not really interested in anyone and I guess if i have to be alone now, then I’ll learn to deal. I’m not necessarily going absolute NC though – he never hurt me, I don’t hate him at all, and I really didn’t want to lose the underlying friendship we had and have things be ‘weird’ between us (also we have like 1930409314 mutual friends). I just won’t actively pursue him or reach out to him, but if he actually is a decent person and wishes me a happy birthday, I’m going to be nice and say, ‘Thanks!’. But I’ll see other people, I’ll be friendly when he’s friendly, but I’m going to act like IDGAF, I’m not going to go running at his beck and call again and I’m going to tell him I’m busy if he asks to hang out (if he even does, he could be completely gone and running for the hills, but I like to think that he’s a little better than that).
December 9, 2014 at 11:18 am #382036MollyI do have a question for your ladies. It seems a lot of you use Tinder, but are you using it for seriously dating people or just casual hookups/playful banter? Because maybe I’m in the age bracket that uses it as a hook up app, but I’ve never taken it seriously and just think of it as a joke, and most of the guys that use it are crude and assholes and clearly have the wrong motives. It’s hard for me to start dating people 1) Because I’ve only really actually dated people I was previously friends with, 2) I don’t meet alot of people, I’m guarded and I don’t really meet anyone except from work (which I haven’t met anyone I’m really interested in dating, plus I feel like that could be awful and uncomfortable if it goes wrong), and 3) anyone I meet on Tinder is raunchy and weird AF and I can guarantee that he’s definitely talking to at least five other girls, because realistically I’m talking to five other guys. What kind of fundamental trust can be formed in that situation when you’re looking to seriously date someone?
December 9, 2014 at 11:30 am #382039SassperillaI use Tinder for serious dating. No hook ups for me. (I’m too old for all that!)
So far the only contacts I’ve had are genuine people looking to date. I don’t get any weirdos??
Maybe it’s where I live, smaller population so not quite caught up with the London style Tindering yet!
December 9, 2014 at 11:48 am #382049Molly*Sassperilla I guess it’s because I’m younger. Ugh. This whole situation just literally sucks. And I guess I should admit that I’m over the college hook-ups and want to date someone exclusively. I know that I can’t change his bullshit preconceived notions of relationships based on his past, but I wish he could open up his mind for just a second. He says that he doesn’t want to rush into something and have it end badly because he can’t/doesn’t want to give it the time or attention he needs, but he’s basically scared of losing his freedom. And I didn’t want any part in taking it. If he’d just realize that I’m not trying to at all and I don’t want any more time or attention than he can give and I liked the way things were going. Obviously I don’t need him to pay as much attention to me as much as before, but it’s not like I don’t have an independent life I’m trying to live either. In fact, I liked that he is pursuing his career path, and he likes to play in golf tournaments, or that he likes to do things with his roommates, or that he spends a lot of time with his sister and his family or his friends. Thats exactly why I like him and I would be absolutely supportive of that and not want to take any time away from that. In fact, I may be getting over my own personal demons but I have a great job that is extremely time consuming, I like being physically active, I pursue music as a hobby, and I like to read, I like to hang out with my girlfriends, and I don’t expect him to want to take that way from me either. I just thought that when we had free moments and wanted to see each other, then we could enjoy that time together. As long as we respected that we both had lives outside of each other and friends and loved ones we wanted to see, then what’s the big deal?
I totally do feel that even though I handled things wrong with him, I was totally in my right to call him out for not talking to me for a week after we just had sex. I don’t think he’s a bad guy but he is careless and absolutely stubborn and inconsiderate, although well-meaning (sadly, I am a stubborn person as well and am attracted to stubborn people). I don’t think I behaved like I was his girlfriend, and no, I acknowledge he wasn’t obligated to contact me – but I think, in general, that’s just kind of rude, whether or not he was ‘busy’ or not. I may not be your wife, but I’m also not a hooker. If you tell me you like me or respect me, then you could at least owe me the decency of texting and saying, “Hey, last night was a lot of fun. Hope you have a great morning” (although not nearly as transparent).
December 9, 2014 at 11:56 am #382053ImenaClaire, I am not hanging on him. Yes, it is nice to hear good words and someone to per sue you but nahhh, I am not waiting for him any longer. This is over. I have had enough. I don’t know whether he will tend to text or call me again one day, but whatever he does it is not worth it. He is weak to break up with her or to face things when it gets tough so he escape responsibilities and does what is easy not what is right. I won’t text, NO WAY!!! If I make up my mind, it’s over, no matter how much I’m hurting. He has to come back on my own terms, if ever does and has to prove me that is a different person but I know that will never happen so I won’t stay here and wait for him any longer. It’s not worth it. I’d rather get drunk on my own loneliness than call or text or count on him.
I know your story and I know it hurts especially because of this season when families and lovers get together and we are meant to celebrate alone but you know?? It’s better this way than torn apart between yourself and these guys. It’s good to be with ourselves cause we rock!! It’s good to spend some time with ourselves .
December 9, 2014 at 11:59 am #382054ImenaHarley, yea I totally agree with you. They felt smth but not true later be, that kinda love we all seek and want, so why to settle for less?
Glad you are back on your dashboard. I’m sorry it didn’t work out with the 3rd, but who knows? You might find a great match out there!! Keep it up!
December 9, 2014 at 12:14 pm #382060Ashleyyour focus the end result. when you’re having a hard time just think about the process actually WORKING & focus on making yourself be in a good mood & that positive vibe of happiness within yourself reaching him. just try every day to be happy & focus on a positive outcome, & when he reaches out to you don’t tell him you miss him or anything like that just focus on being upbeat :) it works!
December 9, 2014 at 12:18 pm #382061HarleyHi. .well. …We ALL sound in great form.good to hear. Molly….that REALLY positive compared to your last posts. good on you girl. yes…quite a few of us will still be intertwined with them here and there. ..so….kudos to us for going to handle it will class and grace.
We will all be fine. .In time.
good luck with the dates whomever is doing them..I’m happy enough just window shopping for men !
December 9, 2014 at 12:26 pm #382064ImenaAshley, you are right. I totally agree and that is what I’m gonna do from now on. I’m gonna focus on making myself happy and I started today. I took my first guitar lesson and LOVED IT!!! I don’t know whether he is going to feel the vibes since we won’t be in touch anymore, but whatever happens my happiness will be my first priority ! Me is all I got, in fact is all we got and it always gonna be what we all will have for the rest of our lives. If he ever reaches, of course I’m not gonna tell him that I miss him, that’s for sure. Thank you girl for your advice. It helps !
Harley, yes we will all be fine in time. I think first weeks are the hardest then it kinda gets better.
December 9, 2014 at 12:36 pm #382068JeanineThanks Harley. I’m really mad at him for I have to stay of fb because I know he will be on and I know myself right now I will stalk his dumb butt. Day 2 just how long does it take?
December 9, 2014 at 12:45 pm #382077ClaireIt’s hard to say Jeanine as everyone is different. From personal experience and what i’ve read from others i’d say around 2 months for you too feel more settled in yourself and to not care so much, but that’s as long as there is 0 contact and 0 cyber stalking
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