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This is about friends and how they react to your dating issues. Anyone ever find a good way to deal with otherwise good friends who have to throw in sneaky gloats about their relationship when you are having problems? Or they offer advice they wouldn’t follow themselves?
The easy answer is don’t talk to them or ignore what they say if I do. They are good friends otherwise.This is more of a human nature thing. I can sort out the good from bad but sometimes want to just scream, “Omg you say you’d never put up with (insert whatever I have going on) yet your “bf” (insert texts other women, cheats, you name it)
I don’t want to have superficial friendships. I just want to know if anyone has a constructive way to deal with this behind the scenes “dating” issue?
RavenI think you’ve posted about this before?
Ask them, then why do you put up with _____ from your guy?
JessNever posted about this so i guess i’m not the only one. Lol.Yea it’s annoying. I don’t do it to them. It just sucks when people have a choice not to something and they do to make themselves feel better at your expense.
I have asked in a nice way – How did you handle _____ ? The response was to point outhow much different that was and then repeat all the stuff their relationships have going for them.
It was the same thing from 3 people. Some parts of human nature just suck! :(
mamaIt’s a really good question and I don’t have an answer. I ended up losing a very good friend because we didn’t find a good way to deal with it. I hope you find a solution.
You could have a very frank conversation with the people that are doing this, give them a chance to redeem themselves, then go from there. Sometimes people don’t realize they are doing that gloating thing and when you point it out they will try to curb it.
You could also (if you are having relationship issues) talk to a therapist/counselor instead of relying solely on your friends. Maybe their reaction is a sign they are tired of listening to your relationship woes. Maybe you have patterns, maybe you don’t listen to their advice, maybe you’ve worn them out… I don’t know. Nor do you. I don’t mean that to be hurtful, but maybe take a look at your own part in your interactions with them. Do you think you’re missing something in the mix of your reactions to their behavior?
Again, I hope you find a solution. Communication is my best suggestion. Good luck my dear. :)
PhoebeThis is actually the reason why a lot of women (and probably men, too) like to pretend that their relationships are perfect when behind the scenes they’re really struggling.
T from NYYou are trying to figure out an answer you just don’t want to face. The answer is to find better friends. Period. (Haha thought there are a few half steps I include below…) As you get older, and if you practice self love, it won’t matter how long you’ve known someone or what your history is – if they don’t make you feel supported and “real” discussions don’t take place – only judgements and competition – you’ll find you have less energy and less time to give them in your life.
What I consider a half-arse answer – is to ACCEPT them for whatever it is you’re telling yourself they give you and expect the snarky comments and competition and no longer be upset by it because you KNOW that’s how they are.
Close intimate relationships with friends are akin to romantic ones in that – we can’t change people. We can only change our reaction to them. I recommend standing up to the snarky comments and see if the women giving them will realize you won’t take it anymore and treat you with more respect. But my experience has been – people like each other in the roles theyve made for each other over time and only rarely allow you to set boundaries and change the dynamic.
T from NYI also agree with mama’s perspective of considering your own part in the interactions. When I was younger I was guilty of taxing my friends with venting because I’m a super verbal processor. LOL. I’ve learned to rely on myself more. And it’s a good thing. But I’ve also “pruned my friend-tree“ a lot over the course of my life because I’ve found out one way or another some women don’t want authentic connections, but me to be happy all the time or not talk about real shiste. It’s a balance. But when you’re practicing self love it gets way easier to distinguish.
lilas usual T from NY is spot on….
type of person you would want in your friend circle,
JoYou may consider it a bit too confrontational but you could just call them on it with something like “do you realise that sounds like gloating? It’s not very empathetic when you know I’m having problems”.
AndersonMaybe they aren’t so much gloating as they are inconsiderate or lacking self/situational awareness. Neither makes a good friend sure. But sometimes people want to be positive but are awkward or dont know how so they end up coming off self-absorbed like that, so I try to give the benefit of the doubt whenever possible. Not to mention a lot of conversations are really just monologues that have relevance to what the previous person just said… than an actual conversation where people are attentive and sensitive.
Truth is it is human to be hypocritical, and so people give hypocritical advice all the time. Even me who tries hard to have integrity and more values than vices. I suppose as long as someone’s aware of it, that’s what matters?
I dont think there is a diplomatic or clever way to deal with something like this. It’s probably best though to not call them out on it when your annoyance is fresh (easier said than done). Maybe if you structure your words around trying to genuinely understand how/why your friend has this double standard instead of belittling them for it, I like to think the outcome would be constructive
KathyI lost my best friend of 30 years over this 3 years ago.. And I don’t miss her.. Like what you say?
Well, she was criticizing me so much in my relationships and I never criticized her about anything. She had to feel better about herself. I got tired of it one day and just didn’t call her back. She knew what she did.. When we pass in our cars, she waves.. And I wave back. But it was destructive to me.. So no more and never again. I had a history of accepting what friends do or say, even if it wasn’t good for me.. But no more. I now on have really good friends in my life who want the best for me, and I am much happier.
Usually the friends who do these things don’t change, so prune them :)
Kathy* Only have really good friends
JessThanks everyone! I appreciate your input and I can see value in the different views.
I tend to not call them out because i really do believe they think they are helping.I came up with one way that seemed to stop them when they were going off on their own track and being overly negative and not listening.
I said, “I can appreciate what you said and things may end up there but I’m not at that point and neither is my relationship. Would you help me focus on what is in front of me? I’d be grateful if you’d help me sort out just that.”
I agree pruning may be necessary. They could be tired of hearing too. Time will tell. I don’t want to just end friendships if there’s a chance they can evolve (me evolve too). I’ll have to if they won’t grow though.
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