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    Lynn

    I’ve been dating this guy for 4 months now. Our relationship is pretty much like what Eric shared about Amy and him through email–perfect even from the very beginning. We had an instant connection and couldn’t wait to be together. There are no lies or doubts between us and we care deeply about each other, can’t wait to see each other everyday. He’s also really happy when I’m able to hangout together with his close friends. When we just started for the first two weeks, he’d consistently share with me how he has to straighten his life now as he’s 35 (while I’m 28)–sorta in a midlife crisis with financial predicament due to economic downturn. He has to work two jobs and only have like 4-5 hours of sleep everyday. He’s extremely concern about his current situation and how it will affect me/us, but he needs to get his life straighten first before he can entirely focus on us. He’s very open up to me so I know he’s having A LOT in his mind.

    He’s passionate, talented, ambitious, and a man of integrity. I believe in him and I’ve decided to give him all the space he needs instead of walking out of this potentially beautiful relationship. We only meet like 1-2 times a week since our 2nd month. As he’s getting busier and busier, we haven’t seen each other for 3 weeks now, close to 4, with extremely minimal contact (text). Although I’m giving him space without doubts and would welcome him back with open arms, I miss him terribly.

    Assuming that everything is as what I’ve mentioned–our relationship is great, loving, transparent and he’s a keeper, but he needs time to straighten his life… is anyone experiencing the same situation? How do you cope? How long are you willing to wait? I’d like to hear from you girls who are struggling with the same situation as well as guys–can you really miss your girlfriend so much, but don’t want to see/talk to her because you need to get your life straighten first?

    #496822 Reply
    Maria

    Apparently he is too busy with work. But 3 weeks with minimal contact is a lot!

    No one is working all day though. Try suggesting him doing things that he would do anyway, like going for dinner at a restaurant or cooking dinner together, or maybe if you share a hobby you could do it together!

    Come up with an appealing suggestion and if he still rejects seeing you then maybe he is not interested anymore and it is time for you to move on!

    #496824 Reply
    Jules

    I know men have a one track mind when it comes to dealing with stresses in their lives but I think nearly a month of not seeing each other and extremely minimal contact via phone/text is not normal.

    Are you sure he didn’t break up with you? The line about how he can’t “focus on us” sounds like he did.

    His reasons might be genuine but it doesn’t sound like he’s putting in any work to keep something going with you.

    I’m dating a guy who has a stressful job and a month ago was taking an advanced online math class. Leading up to finals we didn’t get together the normal time we would (the weekend), he still at least sent me a text everyday and the day after his final was over he had made plans to spend it with me. You make time for the things that are important to you.

    While the time together might diminish during these stressful times, a guy who wants to keep you will make sure he’s finding some way to stay in you life. A random text here or there isn’t that.

    #496830 Reply
    Rose

    To name an example, I have a friend who wants to be more than that but sadly I don’t.

    Anyways, he still tries, he works two jobs and has classes too, sleeps an average of four hours a day.

    He told me if I wanted he could see me in the late nights once every two weeks and that we could hang out at the bar rigth next to his night job and sleep in the car until 4:00 am for him to go to his other job.

    He says he really loves me and wants a relationship but doesn’t have the time. It would be once a week but I have my kids so he said once every two weeks…

    The point is, although he knows I don’t want a relationship with him he still tries really hard because he knows that would make points with me…

    That’s why real interest looks like, sadly I don’t see myself with him but as friends.

    #496831 Reply
    Lynn

    @Maria
    Thanks for the suggestions Maria. I’d like to, but at the same time isn’t giving space something like the cave? I don’t want to give him pressure, making him feel hopeless that he’s unable to fulfill my needs. We live about an hour away, adding with his busy schedule, it’s hard to have a meal together.

    @Jules
    No, he didn’t say that he can’t focus on us, but that’s what I assume when he said he needs to straighten his life first. With minimal and random text sometimes, he’d catch up on my life and update me about his current situation, work, also how much he misses me and would make it up to me.

    I know he’s struggling with three main issues regarding his career now and if they’re stablized, he would be able to make more time with me. All I can do is wait… but I’m not sure for how long.

    #496832 Reply
    Rose

    Now, space is extremely important, I did date him at one point and I became really bossy and difficult so even being a very nice guy he told me I was making him super mad and he didn’t want anything to do with me for like two weeks… I couldn’t care less because I wasn’t really interested in him so he came back to try again but in the end I couldn’t reciprocate.

    Men need space and time to miss you but then if they take too much space means they’re not really that interested.

    #496834 Reply
    Lynn

    Rose, I believe that he genuinely wants a relationship with me. He tells a lot about me to his buddies, I know this because last weeks I coincidentally met his friends at the mall (without him), they know what’s going on with my life! like I’m heading to Seoul for my business trip and etc. That’s how I know he’s still into me.

    #496840 Reply
    Rose

    Then give him the space he needs. He will hopefully miss you and ask to see you even if it’s for just a couple of hours.

    Cute how you found out through his friends how much he likes you lol … That’s a good sign.

    #496842 Reply
    Hannah

    So has he given you a time frame for when all of this will be straightened out? If he’s saying “I’m going to have a busy month, after that I’ll have plenty of time for us” or is he saying “this is my life at the moment”. It makes a big difference.

    #496849 Reply
    Lynn

    @Rose
    Yes! That’s a kinda big reassurance for me to continue to have faith in him :)

    I just can’t understand how some men can miss you so much, but is able to stop himself from seeing you because he needs to get his life stable.

    @Hannah
    He didn’t give me any time frame. He has three issues that need to be settled right now and that would probably take like 2-3 months. I was thinking to ask him for a time frame too, a time frame specifically given by him… will this sort of question hurt our trust?

    #497176 Reply
    kaye

    So technically you’ve only been dating about 3 months because it’s almost been 4 weeks since you’ve seen each other. I think that’s WAY too long this early in the relationship. I understand that guys can have a one track mind when it comes to dealing with their job. But he either had time for a relationship or he doesn’t. If he’s not afraid to lose you treating you this way then that’s not a good sign. My boyfriend drove 12 hours Sunday night, got 4 hours of sleep, worked til 5 Monday, drove another 2 hours to come watch the National Championship game at our friend’s party last night and we didn’t get back home til midnight!! So in 3 nights he at most 12 hours of sleep and he still made that effort so he could see me and spend time with me. I think you are making excuses for your guy and his interest level is low. I really don’t think a conversation with his friends about you is anything to get excited about. Read any of the articles on the Internet and this site and you’ll see that a man shows his love through the amount of time he invests in a woman. It’s the most important gift he can give you and if you’re not getting it then you’re not a priority.

    I’m a firm believer that the 3-4 month mark is the make or break mark in a relationship for the guy to make a decision about whether or not he wants to pursue this long term. That’s been my personal experience and as you read on here you’ll see that’s the case. If he’s not stepping up at this point then maybe the timing is off and he’s got to focus on his career.

    Also I’m really confused as to why if you only live an hour from each other there is no staying overnight periodically during the week. An hour is a standard commute in most cities!

    #497206 Reply
    Lynn

    @Kaye
    Thank you so much for your input.I did stay in his place periodically, during weekends when we first started, but stop doing that when his career crisis starts. When I agree to myself to give him the space he needs to resolve his career issues, I won’t keep nudging for us to meet. Though, I will still give myself a specific time frame. I told myself, if things still don’t change by Feb, I’ll need to bring up how I’ll never be his priority any time soon and ask for a break from this relationship. However, just thinking about that BREAKS me :(

    Not only he met all the qualities I want, but the passion and intensity is real. I can’t think of any bad qualities about him except this situation now. And it’s not like he completely disappear on me. I’ve not initiated any contacts since three weeks, but he’s the one that keep me updated from time to time–about his stress, progress on his issues, missing me a whole lot etc.

    Having said that, I’m still fighting in my head whether to bring up this “time frame” thing right now… I don’t want our relationship to become a burden to him.

    I’ve read what Eric shared on “Dating a Guy with Financial Problems”. What he mentioned in the comments section really hit me.

    He said, “If your heart is saying to stay, then stay and stay fully. Occupy yourself so if he blows you off you can easily do something else without being disappointed. Give him space to figure out his stuff and commit 100% to being OK with your decision to stay.”

    I realize my biggest fear is for him to break up with me because he feels he couldn’t fulfill my needs and like what Kaye said, timing is off and getting his life straighten/career will be his priority right now.

    #497208 Reply
    Lynn

    If I haven’t been clear, he never ask for space. He just said he needs to straighten his life now (resolve his 3 work issues and lots in his mind as he’s hitting the midlife crisis stage). When things got crazy busy, he did still want to meet me up but it’s all at his convenience because of his schedule, which was really rush and a bit irrational for my side. He didn’t want me to go through all the trouble as well so he stopped asking to meet. He’d still keep me posted on his progress and how’s he’s been dealing with his immense stress through text.

    But I take that as caving and space… that’s why I don’t require us to meet for the time being. Even when my own schedule is filled, I’m still missing him terribly, thinking about him every second. I might become desperate and break that space by bringing up this issue before Feb… I hope that will not be a wrong decision :(

    #497209 Reply
    kaye

    It’s hard to say from what you’ve written if he’s stringing you along or genuinely that busy. Personally I think no one is so busy they can’t make time for what’s important to them…especially given close to a 4 week time frame. I’m also concerned the he can say he misses you during this period but yet won’t even pick up the phone to call? From where I’m sitting you’re playing the understanding girlfriend but has this guy even committed to you and asked you to be his girlfriend?

    And I’m not clear on whether he asked for space or you have just decided to give it to him. Personally I would give this guy a little nudge. These periodic text updates as you call them are not a relationship. I’d really hate that you are sitting around patiently waiting for him to get his life together only to find out you aren’t a part of that life when he does.

    I’m not saying to pressure him. Just tell him that you really miss him and it’s been almost weeks since you last saw him and ask when he thinks he may have some time for the two of you to reconnect. Wait a minute. I just realized you are saying that he couldn’t find a spare moment at Christmas or New Year’s to spend with you!!! That’s ridiculous! What’s the story there?

    #497218 Reply
    Lynn

    It’s hard to say from what you’ve written if he’s stringing you along or genuinely that busy. Personally I think no one is so busy they can’t make time for what’s important to them…especially given close to a 4 week time frame. I’m also concerned the he can say he misses you during this period but yet won’t even pick up the phone to call? From where I’m sitting you’re playing the understanding girlfriend but has this guy even committed to you and asked you to be his girlfriend?

    And I’m not clear on whether he asked for space or you have just decided to give it to him. Personally I would give this guy a little nudge. These periodic text updates as you call them are not a relationship. I’d really hate that you are sitting around patiently waiting for him to get his life together only to find out you aren’t a part of that life when he does.

    I’m not saying to pressure him. Just tell him that you really miss him and it’s been almost weeks since you last saw him and ask when he thinks he may have some time for the two of you to reconnect. Wait a minute. I just realized you are saying that he couldn’t find a spare moment at Christmas or New Year’s to spend with you!!! That’s ridiculous! What’s the story there?

    @Kaye
    There are many situations that validate this relationship. To start with, he’s the one initiated calling himself my BF and he’s also introduced me to his close buddies as GF. He’s also a professional athlete turned official who trains 3-4 days a week at night. He’s quite the VIP there and he’s really careful about his reputation there. Another point I love about him is his seriousness and passion in his sports career, super charming! The federation is small and people will gossip and try to bring the top down, which is pretty common in sports. That’s why he has never brought any girls, even friends who are girls down to his game bench… (or whatever that’s called lol). I was the first. Indeed, when the first time I waited for him there, everyone was looking and talking about me! When we got together a little longer, he told me what happened back then. Everyone was curious who’s this girl he’s dating. They all know that his last serious relationship was 4 years ago. Now everyone knows that I’m his gf and he’d openly hug/hold me in front of them.

    I’m not sure if you’ve missed one post before your latest reply. I’d mention he has never ask for this space. I’ve just decided to give him.

    I think I will do that. I will tell him I miss him and ask if he has some time for us to reconnect. I just wish that this is a phase… that I need to overcome.

    We did meet up on Christmas Eve and as usual, things are amazing when we’re together and he’d keep apologize saying he PROMISE to make it up for me (and again mentioned he needs to get those stuff resolved). He went back to his hometown from Christmas to New Year’s week and asked if I would come with him. I wish I did!! But my best friend’s wedding was on that week too and I’ve used up all my company’s annual leaves :(

    #497219 Reply
    Lynn

    Oops, sorry for my weird reply, copy pasting your part. I was using another device to reply, so I pasted your reply there lol!

    #497221 Reply
    Anonymous2

    If you stay, stay because you want to, not because you fear losing him. Big difference.

    #497222 Reply
    Lynn

    I choose to stay because I want to.

    What I fear is that he himself would give up because his plate is full and that he’s being unfair to me. I don’t want to lose him this way… I would rather lose him because he’s not into me anymore or the oher way round, there’s no passion, affairs, etc. Not because of.. such circumstances. I know it’s not under my control…

    Either way, I think I will talk to him about this… even though it turns bad I guess.

    #498295 Reply
    Luke

    From what I can tell, your BF loves you a lot and does think about you all the time.

    I can relate to him. My schedule is crazy and there are many times i wanted to meet my girl but I couldn’t.. You don’t know how terrible I feel every time I’m too stressed out or too tired to contact her , meet up with her, but there are circumstances.. Give us men some time and don’t doubt our love to you especially when your BF has shown you how serious he is about this relationship.

    #498310 Reply
    A

    To answer ur primary question, yes, a man IN CRISIS can be busy and not see his girlfriend for days or weeks without contacts and still think about her everyday.

    This is not normal for regular busy guy.

    Your BF is not having the typical busy schedule, he’s having a crisis and he has already mentioned a few times he needs to straighten his life. He must also assumed that you get that meaning he won’t be able to text or call you regularly like how it used to be.

    If you miss him, let him know, but don’t overdo it. Said it once. Wait for him to come to you, be loving when he does. Ask him for a time frame.. See how he respond. Good luck!

    #498331 Reply
    Lynn

    Thanks Luke and A! Yeah, he’s really concern and mentioned that he’s having a midlife crisis, worried that his schedule would affect me. I really do believe in him… I constantly pray for his career and life. He’s a great person and I know we’re on the same page. He’s so loving and romantic whenever he could.

    Just before I wanted to ask him out so we could talk, he contacted me first, told me how crazy his schedule has been and misses me soooo much. He wanted to have dinner with me last Friday but I was sick. So he ask if I have time this Sunday but his work came up :( oh well.. I’ll let him come to me again.

    #498343 Reply
    redcurleysue

    It is nice that Luke responded….gave me hope…

    It sounds like this guy is really trying to get his life together. Kudos for him.

    You wonder if you should talk with him about this. If he is already feeling inadequate to give you time you would have to be extremely careful with what you said. If a man does not think he can make you happy he feels like a failure…and on top of his recent job changes he is in a vulnerable place.

    A man likes to feel like a winner. If it were me and this guy was that special I would give him at least three months of my time encouraging him and letting him know I think he is doing great. I would wait. After three months if nothing changes I would evaluate the situation at that time.

    That is what I would do.

    #498364 Reply
    Moon

    Lynn, I had the feeling that he’s working hard and he’s into you very much according to what you described about him. But sometimes we women could wrongly put a man on a high position and see him nearly perfect. I would tell you my personal story. My boyfriend was experiencing career challenge too and fanacial problem along with it. We’ve been together 9 months when this happened. Before that, he was also like a dream came true in my life, he showered me with tender love, happiness, and lots of attention. When he suddenly got busy with work, had no more time to see me for 4 weeks (we live an hour away too), I tried to be understanding girlfriend, I never pushed him to meet although I could drive to his place, I just thought he was tired from crazy work and needed space for himself to recharge. He still contacted me almost every other day with a dry and short text, but we no longer had the long and fun phone call conversation. We did meet after 4 weeks and then things started over again. Finally I talked about it to him and he thanked for my understanding and asked for 2 more months to solve his problem. I agreed and back to wait patiently.

    I was like you, so believed in him, so sure he was trying to make a better life for our future…until one day his ex girlfriend posted her birthday party pictures on Facebook and he was there, while he told me he was working till late. You can imagine my heart broken moment. I didn’t even talk to him anymore, I dumped him over a text. He had a big fight with his exgf, she deleted those pictures the next day, and he showed up at my door begging me to listen to his explanation after I ignored him for a week. So I let him talk, turned out she was helping him to solve the problem, but he said he already told her they could only be friends. Ok, I gave him another chance because I loved him. He rejected the assistance from her but things were never the same. I found out he wasn’t the person I admired so much, he created all the problems and mess for himself. His ex was trying very hard to get back with him after he gave her the hope, and he could not ignore her because he didn’t want to be a person just used her when he needed. Everything went down hill from there, and drama came up non-stop. Finally I left him, because I saw clearly he didn’t have the qualities I thought he had, when he lied, he lied, doesn’t matter why he lied. If you let go of the lies and thought it was understandable, like I did, time will show you the true color because that’s something in his blood.

    It was a painful breakup, he loved me but he didn’t know what the foundation for love was. Until today he still wants to be with me but I know it’s best for me to move on.

    I told you my story just to remind you that you do not know him well enough yet. While a man wouldn’t spend the important days with you such as Christmas Day, New Year’s Eve, you should be alert. Don’t look at him with a rosey colored glasses, you never know what’s the story behind him.

    #498369 Reply
    Lynn

    We just had a conversation earlier, catching up with each other’s life and he shared with me about his current progress, stuff that he wouldn’t share with any of his close buds and upcoming business plans. I changed my mind about having the talk–asking for time frame.

    @RCS
    Just like what you said, I don’t wanna give him extra pressure… It hurts me to see him struggling already, but he’s not a quitter and that’s what I love about him. Always remind him that he’s the best :) He will certainly have a place in my heart for some more time. Do you perhaps have a similar story, RCS?

    @Moon
    Thanks moon, I can’t tell how much I appreciate your personal story. I can feel you… That kind of betrayal is devastating. He didn’t spend Christmas and New Years with me because he went back to his hometown, which he did ask me to go together, but my best friend’s wedding fell in the same week and I was out of annual leaves anyways :( Even though I’m always positive towards my BF, i have moments of pessimism too. I would imagine that he would someday give up on this relationship because he can’t promise me a future. I can’t imagine him cheating on me though or any ex involved, got enough faith to know that he isn’t such person. But life is strange right? You’ll never know… Just like your ex. They say crisis could change someone, to be better or the other way round. Then again, you got to trust someone to love someone. I’ll trust him on that for now. There are two things that I will never tolerate in a relationship, 1) cheating 2) mentally and physically abuse me. No second chance.

    So until these happen, I’ll continue to stand by his side and keep believing in him.

    #498383 Reply
    Newbie

    Hi lynn
    For some reason this guy seems a bit off to me when it comes to acting like a real boyfriend. I can understand busy and trying to make things work, but it also sounds like he is keeping you on a distance and friendzoning you. I personally wouldn’t be too happy with so little time and i’m an independent low maintenance girl. I would suggest stop acting like an understanding girlfriend who is more concerned with his business affairs than your own happiness. Being selfish can help you, you know.
    I mean, you stand by his side, but where is he? Not besides you, from what i get you are telling here.

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