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Many men wouldn’t open up even to their closest friends or gf during their crisis period and went into caving mood.. Especially when it is a career/financial crisis. Your man is good enough to share with you his whereabouts and still wants to see you.
@newbie
It’s safe to say busy during crisis and just busy during normal days is completely different. Most men just retreat to their cave trying to resolve their shit and not contact you at all… For days or weeks ..when they’re struggling with immense financial problem or career change.Sigh.. These things happen a lot to all of us. Bottom line, ain’t no man wants their lover to see them at their bad shape.
NewbieHi A,
I do get that, but i have a feeling he said that in the beginning of the relationship as a sign that he is not ready to commit. But that’s my opinion from the outside. from my experience even a guy who is going through a rough patch is able to open up and will seek out a place to get away from stress with a girl he feels good with. Meanwhile the not being together interferes with his bonding proces. So i really don’t see this as a relationship going further. This relationship is 3/4 months old and i have a hard time believing he is holding back to get his ducks in a row. I do believe a guy will do that if he is thinking about the next step, but that’s way too early. I’m sorry lynn, i really think he is stringing you along.kayeIt is rare that I disagree with the amazing RCS but I seriously think you’re a fool if you’re going to give a guy 3 more months to continue to treat you like this when you’ve only been dating 4 months.
If holding onto him means that much then go ahead and be his doormat if you wish. Let him prioritize everything else ahead of you and rearrange YOUR schedule and your life whenever he does get that brief moment to see you. It’s certainly not going to make him respect you.
I’ve already given you an example of what it looks like when a busy guy is committed and makes time for you in my previous post. I could easily give you half a dozen more examples from my relationship with my boyfriend. He hasn’t had a day off in 3 weeks now but that hasn’t stopped him from making time for me and making time to do things for me.
It’s usually the girl who hangs on during a guy’s “crisis” and a this lowest point who is the first to get dumped when his life turns around. He can’t live with the fact he disappointed her and she saw him at his worst. There’s lots of posts like that on here.
Good luck to you but I really don’t see this turning into a happy ending for you.
LynnI actually think refraining from constantly initiating contact works. He’s slowly coming back to me, more contacts and asking for dinner even if he needs to continue working later on. I used to watch him practice (his sports) after that, but I stopped because it’s usually until midnight.
@Newbie
Our conversation is more than just his work. He never fails to ask about me and even remember the little things I told him. He’d follow up with me on my issues about work, friends, etc. How can he friend-zone me when we always get intimate in between talks? He can’t get his hands off me every time lol. He’s also the type of guy who says what he means. He wouldn’t promise something if he knew he couldn’t do it, be it work, sports, to friends or to me. When he said he wanted this relationship and how much he likes me, I believe him. Things work pretty natural between us because of our great attraction, chemistry and passion…and he actually started the whole bf/gf thing.I do appreciate your advice :) However, at the meantime I’m still a happy person and my life’s pretty good so far. I really don’t have much to concern about apart from him. I think the only time I could see his TRUEST color is when it’s my turn to struggle a crisis (hopefully I won’t have one!). I guess… there’s not much choice except time will tell if I could go on with this relationship. After all, time is what he needs to settle his problems. I just don’t want a potential relationship to go into waste.
I’m a strong believer of “Love Yourself”. If loving this man makes my life a misery, then I would stop. Easier said than done I know… that’s why we need a community like this–to support each other!
kayeJust saw Newbie’s post and I couldn’t agree more. Just last night my boyfriend and I had a nice night “in” after he got off work and he was talking about how wonderful it is to be able to come to my place and grill out and sit out by the fire pit and destress. I am his sanctuary, his soft soft to land, and where he wants to be to relax and unwind. If you aren’t that for your guy then I don’t see this going anywhere or you being able to get that emotional bond and connection with him.
AKaye, you would also read stories from Eric and many more guys out there where their gf dump them at their lowest point. Another dating coach, Evan Marc Katz also talked about how his ex gf left him when he failed his business and needed her the most. The woman who stick by his worst is now his wife.
It’s all case by case I would say.
Some men are worth the wait, some not.
@Lynn
All I can say is, trust your own instinct whether this man is worth your wait. If you sense anything wrong, believe that.I believe you’re a great person, an awesome girlfriend in fact. I really hope to hear a success story from you honey.
Lynn@Kaye
Thanks Kaye, I hear you. It’s so nice to know how loving is your boyfriend. These things happen all the time before his crisis got waaay out of hand. That’s why our emotional bond is pretty deep in such a short time. Even now, when we could only meet after so many days, the bond is still there, I’d say it gets stronger than before each time.I do agree that 3-month time frame is a bit too long for a fresh relationship. I’m not giving myself any time frame for now, but like A said, I would stop once I sense something’s off… like, him being cold and distant. So far he hasn’t been cold to me. HE COME AND TRY LOL. I don’t count the less texting as cold. It’s understood I guess. Cold as in the way he talks to me, his tone, etc.
@A
Thank you so much for rooting me on! I hope things would be better too! It’s quite amazing to meet someone who share the same level of attraction, passion, intellect, dreams, language (the five love language), values and beliefs! He’s the first I’ve met. The previous ones usually stop at attraction, passion and intellect!Lynn@Kaye
That reminds me how he would always hold me tight with endless kisses and says his stress just melt away every time he’s with me… but only for temporary cause they’re back as soon as I’m gone!I miss that.
NewbieHi lynn,
Well i’m happy to hear you will live your life just fine. That’s a good thing. I can understand why you want to be patient. But like i said, to me it feels off somewhere. I cant put my finger on it. Its maybe the timeframe where 3 months is usually too little for a guy too bond, or the guy putting so much emphasis on the crisis he is having (guys not only retreat but also don’t like to talk about it). To me it sounds like a disclaimer. I have the exact same experience as kaye.
But you know best. Good luckMiraHi Lynn,
Your story is really interesting… because it’s such ashamed if a relationship didn’t work out because of his career situation.
I’ve to agree with A. Your relationship will be the most beautiful if you successfully stick by with the right man during his weakest point. When things are better, he’ll never let you go. I want to add on that this happens a lot to entrepreneurs. I know because I’m married to one. It wasn’t easy at all in the beginning. He was just starting up with no money, bills to pay and debt was constantly increasing! Countless last minute cancellation on dates, not seeing each other for 2 months, zero phone calls and text for weeks. Almost had it at one point… maybe twice, or thrice, I forgot. So much tears and yelling. But we managed to work things out because we truly love each other. Been together for 5 years now and his business is flourishing. He has more time to be with me now, but still very busy! However, even with all the circumstances, he loves me dearly. Many times, he would compromise so we could be together.
It’s a bit difficult to share deeper with you because English is not my first language. But I can tell you that there is such man that is worth to stick by and wait.
I wish you nothing but the best =)
redcurleysueIt is true, I am a sucker for love.
Lynn, my advice would be different if what you described was different, but I am a loyalist until I have a reason not to be a loyalist.
If what you said is true, and your gut tells you he is sincere then I would hang in there.
I believe that all good love relationships have friendship at the base. If this man is worthy of your friendship and he has been transparent in his dealings with you then I would give him the benefit of a doubt for a few months. I am not saying forever…I a saying for a few months until some of the smoke clears and he is on better footing.
You strike me as a smart girl who knows when someone is blowing smoke or in a real situation. If at any point you get a sense of blowing smoke then get out as quick as possible…until then trust your gut.
kayeA,
I’m speaking from experience. My boyfriend and I broke up over a year ago because he was having a crazy stressful time with work and I was adding to his stress by being needy and wanting more of his time. I pushed and he told me he couldn’t give me what i needed right the and we broke up. Then a month after the breakup he came and told me that maybe when things got less crazy for him we could try again. That’s when I found this site and realized my fault in the breakup and what I needed to do to improve myself. But there were things he needed to change to. I still believe if I had not done what I did and instead decided to sit back and accept crumbs from him for months that there is no way he would have stepped up to where he is right now and committed to me and made me a priority and be talking forever together. Which he said again just last night. :) What incentive would he have had to do that? If I would have sat back and accepted whatever little bit of attention he gave me gladly why would he have felt a need to change things? He wouldn’t.
Lynn,
Please don’t get me wrong here. I really am rooting for you with this relationship!! Truly! I just don’t want to see you deluding yourself or being taken advantage of. If this isn’t making you happy and your needs aren’t being met then sitting back and saying nothing isn’t doing yourself any favors.
MoonLynn,
It’s good to have faith in a man, just don’t be blind by emotion when you don’t really know him well yet. Honestly, a man can’t have financial and life together at the age of 35 is already a red flag. You don’t know the real reason caused this mess in his life, maybe he just incapable of handling life in order due to competency or personality. I am very happy that God has given me that opportunity to leave a man who had financial mess, otherwise I would waste many more years try to be that nice girl stand by his side and rescue him from stress and pain, while the stress and pain are within himself that born with his character. I did suffer for the loss of love, but now I am dating much higher quality man and can see clearly of the whole thing. So only time can tell and help you to find out who he really is, stay calm and open your eyes wild, don’t be driven by emotion. A man doesn’t need to cheat or abuse you to be unqualified as a life partner. I wish you all the best.
Lynn@Newbie @Moon @Kaye
Thanks a lot ladies, these are things I know I need to hear. I take your advice seriously. No matter what, I will always put my own happiness first. The moment I feel that this won’t work, sad, miserable, or not the same ol’ me anymoer, this has to stop.Kaye, that’s exactly what I was about to do–a talk about this situation, but I held back last week. I’ve not shown any neediness or pushiness, which he really appreciates.. he was really thankful that I’m being so understanding. He’s very well aware of how his issues have slow down our relationship and apologize, promise to make it up to me. So much sincerity right there…! I hugged him tight and said it’s okay baby and he kissed me like crazy. Like I said, he’s someone who won’t say what he doesn’t mean, let alone keeping a promise. But if his actions do not match his words, I got to do what I got to do.
Moon, I’m so happy to know that you are with someone fit right now! We ladies often think that we can find no better man than the current guy, but that’s not true.
I think it’s pretty common for people who haven’t get their life together in their 30s or just starting to get stable because of many circumstances. I personally know a few men who struggled in their 30s or even 40s, but because of perseverance, determination with positive thoughts along with faith in God, they’re able to got through the tunnel and those struggles turn them into an even better person. One of them is my dad :)
In a way, I also thank God that this is happening to me at the early stage of my relationship. I believe that crisis is a point where you can see a person’s true nature. Some people married for years only to discover that their husband can be a complete different person when crisis hit. When things don’t go their way, pressures coming from multiple sides, feeling like a loser and the world is collapsing… that’s when a man would show you who he really is.
So far, my bf is still the person I know since the beginning. He’s still gentle, loving, sweet and caring to me. He’s strong and confident. He does have his moments of breakdown when stress becomes overwhelming, but the next minute he would get up and say no point to complain! Even in the beginning of the relationship, he’s been very open up to me about everything–his current state, income, family, friends, secrets, dreams, goals, and fears. Said he doesn’t want to hide anything from me and he wants our relationship to be transparent–something I need, something we’re both so comfortable to share with each other.
To me, red flags are:
1) When doubts creep in around him
2) When he’s starting to act cold/distant
3) When he gets angry/raises his tone like he never did to me (NOPE, NOT EVEN A LITTLE, I CAN’T TOLERATE LOL)
4) When he takes advantage of me–be it financial, labor, service or whatever you called .
5) When other women come into the picture (not his mom lol) –this red flag is an absolute NO condition to me.So far so good, he never did any of these… yet :D
That’s the reason why I choose to stay with him.@RCS
Yes, my actions would be different too depending on the situation. Right now, he has shown nothing but consistency of his character. If he’s doing all the red flags I mentioned, then… too bad. Thanks for the sweet confidence boost! I feel we are very much alike when it comes to being a lover.@Mira
Thank you! Your story inspires me to keep believing because you know he’s worth the wait.Jake MLynn, you’re such a graceful and sweet girlfriend. I would date you in a heartbeat ;)
Your guy is lucky. I unfortunately not so good. Was about to propose to my gf of 3 years, but she left me for a rich man she met on the plane (she’s a flight attendant). Along with other issues, we had problems with constant LDR and I was extremely busy with my startup so our dates were mostly unplanned and last minute. She went needy and insecure, constantly doubting me when all I really did was work. Plus she wanted a stable man with fixed income and couldn’t wait for my startup to grow. She’d hint me many times to drop my startup and get a 9-5 job with fix salary.. Things were bad and my world was falling apart when she gave up on us. She left me heartbroken for almost a year… I’m a man and yes I cried. It’s not that I blame her. I understand in a way I couldn’t fulfill her emotional needs, but at the same time she couldn’t compromise with my situation. We weren’t a fit.
Fast foward four years now, business is growing steady, assets and financially secure enough to enjoy life in early retirement (I’m in my mid 30), but still single. I still date around but don’t think I’m ready to settle down now. Perhaps I’m still figuring out whether it’s worth to invest so much on someone who you really believe to be the one, turns out she’s not.
Back to your story, give your man some time to prove himself. You’ve set yourself some very clear boundaries. As long as he’s still the person you know then there’s nothing to worry about. But the second he’s at some of those red flags, bailout.
When I was battling my crisis, all I wanted was my girl to stay by my side and believe that I can make things happen.
I’d give her my world.
LynnAww thank you so much jake… :)
I understand not many girls could wait for their man to come around for that long. I’m not sure myself either.. Depends on how the guy is along the way! Only him alone can show to me whether it’s worth to wait for him.
I hope you’ll find a person that fits, someone who deserves your whole world.
JoJust wondering what happened here Lynn? Have things improved or changed?
I’ve just gone through same thing, after almost 4 months ( been together over a year) I couldn’t take it anymore. I gave spacea nd support, stood back, accepted the lack of time together, but I felt i wasn’t getting anything back, no loving messages at all, felt cold and distant, action not matching words. It ended a week ago, I’m devastated but I wasn’t happy anymore.
Your guy sounds like he was still making you feel wanted and appreciated. Did it all work out? -
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