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  • #367322 Reply
    Harley

    I agree with Mel.. I don’t think you have the maturity/emotional control/selflessness to handle this.

    if this were my guy.. I also would be hurt and upset BUT.. I would try to see things from his angle and give him all the space and time he needs. i would ” be there ” for him within reason.. without being used as a doormat, but i would go out and live my own life. GRIEF… changes people… they think about things and life differently. They.. take time in their head to work out what is NOW important to them and what/who.. NO LONGER IS.

    I lost my sis 3 yrs ago. People came up and commiserated. i was like ” get the feck away from me, i don’t even like you ” NOW.. i am more positive, I LIVE each day, I let the people slide that are no longer of value to me, I tell my bosses now I refuse to work with staff I don’t like, I fall in love at the drop of a hat and make random decisions.. I am more of a go getter nutcase than even before. AND… I LOVE IT. Life is far tooo short.

    problems like grief/job loss/marital separation are not sorted easily or quickly. Women have to decide if it’s worth working through.. have they the staying power and resilience to work through it.. or walk away.

    #367333 Reply
    Amber

    Wow guys…kick a girl when she’s down? Selfish? Immature? I’m in love w/a guy who’s going through hell right now and ii’m trying to understand.

    #367335 Reply
    Amber

    I went through a divorce from an emotionslly and physically abusive relationship which i will admit has defietly broken my confidence when it comes to relationships and i am trying to rebuild

    #367336 Reply
    Harley

    I’m not trying to kick you. I’m trying to point out in my opinion You/anyone needs a HIGH level of maturity and selflessness/emotional control to deal with a situation like this. I am selfish to a degree, it IS HARD to be SELFLESS. there’s a HUGE differance in have NO maturity, and not enough, TOTALLY selfish, and having to be SELFLESS.

    Your early posts lead me to believe you do not have ENOUGH in you to . I may be wrong. Buy YOU are going to need a deep, deep, DEEP well of patience, tolerance, security etc etc to get through this..because HE DOESN’T right now.

    #367349 Reply
    Phoebe

    Amber…if you love him, then you’re going to have to decide that you’re going to hang in there and try to quiet your own thoughts and feelings.

    For whatever the reasons are, when a guy we love goes through something that ‘takes them away from us’, it’s up to us to decide if we have the fortitude to stick with them through it. Sometimes (a lot of times, actually), it means US having to silently suffer in our way and in our heads while we wait for them to come out of whatever it is.

    Either you can handle it (and I don’t mean YOU specifically, but rather any woman in this position) and stay, or you can’t and you move on. It’s not easy. Not easy at all. :(

    #367355 Reply
    Amber

    I fully admit I’m not confident enough right now to handle all this, but I’m hoping w/talking to him and others I can be better. We did talk last night. He said he wants to take a step back and get rid of the title b/c it makes him feel pressure and he can’t give anything right now. He kept saying that he needs to get himself together.I asked if he was planning on moving back to NYC and he said no. It was so sad, said his dad is older and isn’t doing well mentally which is affecting him physically and he can’t lose another parent.

    #367356 Reply
    Phoebe

    Good luck with whatever you do…….

    It’s not an easy thing for either one of you, for vastly different reasons. xoxo

    #367357 Reply
    Harley

    Hi Amber.. deep down.. ONLY YOU can make you confident. Anyone will ALWAYS hear conflicting opinions regarding a problem. YOU have to be confident enough to decide and FOLLOW it through.You can go with the majority decision OR the minority decision OR with your own decision.. if there IS a 3rd option.i.e a balance between stay with him ( majority) or walk away( minority).

    HE has now decided to pull away.. SO YOU PULL away too.( 3rd option). Rarely contacting him ( let him contact you ), NO blowing up his phone, NOT always available when he calls.

    THIS all works in your favour. HE … gets the space/peace he needs.. thinks you are awesome.

    HE… misses you/wants you back.

    YOU.. work on yourself, get more independent/confident/secure in YOURSELF.

    And.. if he don’t come back.. you have become a better person that some guy WILL NOT be dumb enough to lose.

    Google the push/pull relationship and see about doing it. it’s ALL you can do, IMO to salvage things.

    #367364 Reply
    LAgirl

    Yes. Pull back and stop contact with him.

    And don’t wait or put your life on hold… It feels like an excuse to me. Taking the gf title away . He says it’s too much pressure , but I’m not sure it is because. Of the grief. That’s just my opinion.

    It’s been a year and while you never forget and still may grieve it seem unnatural to put your life on hold after the death of a parent. A spouse? Yes .. Not a parent. He needs therapy because no parent would want to know their death caused a child to fall apart and not be able to move on..

    It’s not easy to lose parents, yet he seems unnaturally attached..

    Idk.. That’s how I see it from the outside

    #367378 Reply
    Amber

    Unfortanetly, one of the places he does go is the liquor store. He alao has a degree in rehab psych and doesn’t belowce anyone can tell him anythong he doesn’t already know…i tried suggesting therapy.

    #367380 Reply
    Harley

    OOH DRINK ! Not good. Hod old is he and how often does he drink, to what degree.. blackout stage/only a few ?? HOW MUCH ?

    #367382 Reply
    Amber

    He’s slmost31. And the very little he tells me is pretty drunk..by himself.

    #367386 Reply
    LAgirl

    I would pull way back. This man is off ….

    He is either using this as an excuse to back away from this relationship

    oR

    He has serious drinking / mental health issues.

    Neither of the above are promising you a bright future with him

    I would cut my losses and run.

    #367387 Reply
    LAgirl

    Plus he already basically broke up with you anyway… He said he isn’t wanting a gf of you.

    I think you dodged a bullet here …I do.

    #367404 Reply
    Amber

    I am trying to just move on, be strong and be pleasantly surprised if he reappears. So I get a text from him today saying we need to have a more “in depth” conversation about things soon.

    #367406 Reply
    LAgirl

    This man has issues… I would back off if I were you…

    You will do what you think best.. From outside perspective, including my husband.. This man is not worth your time and emotions.. You can do better.

    #367408 Reply
    Amber

    A male prospective is always coveted…

    #367426 Reply
    Harley

    Amber.. make a choice if he asks to meet.. DO… or Don’t. Stop sitting on the fence.

    From the little you said of the drinking.. he sounds like a mess. THIS threw a whole new light on the subject for me.

    I really do advocate.. walking away from him.

    #367449 Reply
    Amber

    He kind of made the choice for me. He said the title was making him feel extra pressure b/c he doesn’t have anything to give to a relationship right now but doesn’t want to close the door for the future. Ideally, I will work on my confidence and he will work through his grieving and we can be together again when we’re both in better places. To be fair, I don’t know how often he’s been drinking…but he did tell me a few weeks ago he pretty much just stayed in his apartment all weekend and drank. And he did make a passing comment about the only place he goes is the liquor store. But I do know that right now all I can do is leave him be…

    #367453 Reply
    Raven

    He spent the whole weekend, alone in his apartment drinking… the only place he goes is to the liquor store?

    Run away from this guy.

    #367456 Reply
    LAgirl

    Amber
    Do you seriously believe he is grieving… Because I don’t. I think it’s a convenient excuse to back away from this relationship. He’s a grown man and he is a year out from moms death and now can’t function?

    I can’t believe you would even consider getting back with this man…

    Telling you there might be a future is his way of keeping you around as an option.

    #367463 Reply
    Amber

    I appreciate everyone’s advice but I’m confused now even more than before. The anniversary of his mom’s death (two weeks ago) triggered all this. First everyone was saying, timing wise it makes sense…now I ‘m hearing it’s been long enough? I guess I’ll never know what’s going on in his head but I do know he was very happy and positive the entire time I knew him and starting retreating into this hole preparing to go to her memorial ( he’s from the east coast, we live in the Midwest) and being a completely different person when he actually came back from the memorial. I also know his best friend is like his brother and they talk all the time and he said he barely even texts him. He looks beaten up. I don’t know if he’s being dramatic or serious about the drinking thing.

    #367464 Reply
    Amber

    Oh, and he has flown home to be w/his dad the past two weekends. I guess his dad isn’t doing well mentally which is affecting him physically and he said “I can’t lose another parent”.

    #367487 Reply
    mel

    I suggest you look up the grieving process it can take some people years. The memorial most likely triggered emotions that were not dealt with before. Also it is very natural for people to turn twords alcohol when they are going through the process. Look it up.

    #367493 Reply
    LAgirl

    I understand grieving… And if this were a wife or gf who died I would get it. It seems off and convenient that he would all of a sudden fall back into grief. It appears a convenient excuse to break up.. Sorry, but I just feel that way based on what was written.

    Now he adds in about his dad…

    Reality wise, parent do get ill and pass… This man has issues , that’s all I’m saying and I would not hang around waiting for him to figure it out. It’s not fair to her. And if he really wanted it to work he wouldn’t have dropped the gf title. That makes no sense.

    They are only two months in and this man is not that invested.. This was a convenient out for him. And I’m sure the drinking isn’t new either.

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