He is hurt because he says I do not give him enough attention??


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  • #434516 Reply
    Ayaros

    So last night my bf and I had a nasty fight in which he expressed angrily how hurt he is and upset because he says I do not pay enough attention to him when we are not together. For study reasons i can only see him in 3 weeks, so our communication is basically texts, skypes and so on. I had my thesi defense a day ago so I was very nervous and couldn’t think of texting him properly or anything but he took really, REALLY bad. He says when we are together I’m the best girlfriend on earth but when not then I ignore him or don’t even tell him that I miss him, and now its like he feels resentment.
    The fight went pretty bad, but he agreed to have a skype tonight so we can approach the issue.
    The problem is, now I don’t know how to take away that resentment? How do I approach this coversation withot getting annoyed? I say this because he was supposed to visit me for a weekend but now he says he will think about it since I’ve trated him poorly (I admit I have been cold and distant). How to solve this?
    If context is needed – we are together for 8 months, exclusive and thinkof a future together, we are in the same page.

    #434519 Reply
    Newbie

    You are doing your thesis and he makes it about him? That’s just awefull. He should be the opposite, be supportive, be cheering. I don’t understand how you can say you’re on the same page? What page is that? Him getting away with demanding, controlling behaviour? I don’t know anything about your relationship, but by what you said, he doesn’t sound like a caring man to me.

    #434526 Reply
    Ayaros

    Well to give an example I had to leave on Saturday. Then Sunday he wrote me “I miss you already” and wished me good night. I didn’t answer because I was too much thinking about defending my thesis on Monday. Monday he wrote me the whole day, wishing me good luck, supporting me and then asking how it went, etc. I was with family and I generally prefer to give attention to the people I’m with instead of being on the phone so answered shortly that it went well. Then last night he wrote me again to wish me good night and luck with studies and whether I could transfer him some money I owe him for some time already. So I did, and answered “voila, sent.” He got upset and wrote “I won’t write you again” – and that’s how the fight started and how he said he can’t stand anymore that I don’t even have the decency to say I miss him too or to show a little bit that I care instead of showing him more like if he bothers me all the time, an that I show no interest in him…

    #434531 Reply
    dixit

    finishing school = hard times for relationships. me, my roommate and her sister were finishing our master’s a week ago and all three of us had a fight with our respective boyfriends almost at the same time (and for my roommate and her boyfriend it was their first serious disagreement in almost 2 years!). what I mean to say is, it WAS a little selfish of him to blame you for not being so caring as usual. on the other hand, I believe he tried his best to support you, but when you were all distant (sure, you had a good reason) it just started to be frustrating and he just missed you, but it seemed to him you didn’t care. thesis means lots of work and stress but it shouldn’t make us forget about our beloved’s needs completely.

    what I would do now (not saying it’s the best thing, just my opinion). I would calmly tell him that I understand it was hard time for him and that it took a little too long. I would thank him for all the support given, for his patience etc. (as I’ve said, I’m sure he tried, until he reached the point when it was too much). then I would tell him that I’m sorry if he felt like I didn’t care – and that it just isn’t true. then I would ask him to give me some understanding – that it was really really hard time for me, so it’s no wonder I wasn’t quite myself.

    try to stay calm and don’t get all emotional. I don’t think he’s a bad guy – if he’s not acting like this all the time, he’ll calm down. all of us have our needy moments. btw. his reaction seems to me somehow feminine (you know what I mean – most of us do it all the time – guy gets busy and we start obsessing about why he texts less, why didn’t he say “I love you” this week, why it takes him hours to text back and blah blah blah :) )

    #434539 Reply
    dixit

    and after I read more, you seem like a man :D please, I don’t mean anything offensive, really – it’s just usually the opposite: woman texts – guy is busy so doesn’t respond – woman gets mad – guy doesn’t get it.
    when I read this: “Then Sunday he wrote me “I miss you already” and wished me good night. I didn’t answer because I was too much thinking about defending my thesis on Monday.” – how hard is it to answer to such a short text? it takes 5 seconds. sure, you didn’t want to be disturbed. but I sooo understand why he felt bad. I’ve been there.

    #434541 Reply
    BriLyse

    Okay, first I want you to understand I’m only going off of what you have wrote here, and it sounds like you are being down right inconsiderate of this man because you are only focused on yourself right now.
    Now that being said, there is nothing wrong with being focused on yourself, especially if you have certain goals you are trying to achieve, but when you take on a relationship, and exclusive one with goals on futures together and whatnot, you also take on that relationship as a responsibility and goal in itself. You are responsible for making your man feel wanted, appreciated, and loved outside of his family and friends. A person’s significant other that they have chosen above everyone else they could’ve chosen in this world, is the one person that matters the most, and unless you want some other girl showing him this attention, love, and affection I suggest you get it together missy.
    I don’t care. If you don’t have time for him, then you need to let him go and tell him you love him and you understand where he is coming from, he is right. He deserves a full time girlfriend, not someone that decides to text or call when it best suites her. Imagine if he started ignoring you or blowing you off the way you do him once you’ve completed your task, or studies or are done with you family. Then you’ll being on here crying wolf about how he’s turned cold on you. Trust, the way he’s going about getting the attention is sort of childish yes, but men are like that when they are in their feelings over a woman they truly care about because they are not used to being in their feelings like us, it drives them nuts!lol. But he has every right to feel the way he’s feeling based on what you’ve wrote. Your treating him like an option instead of priority and that’s just not fair. No one would like that from a partner.
    So in my opinion either step it up as his girlfriend, or let him go until you have time to step up your efforts. Hopefully he’s still available by then.

    #434543 Reply
    Gemini615

    I disagree BriLyse. She is focused on her thesis and cannot be distracted by a needy boyfriend. Men do what she’s doing all the time; they get super involved in work or a project and end up neglecting their relationships for a bit until they can complete whatever it is they are working on. And the woman has to be understanding and give him space to focus on his work. It is not like this is a long term situation or she has a habit of being neglectful towards him. I’m sure once her thesis is done or if she gets to a point where she can take a break from it for a bit, she will redirect her focus to her relationship.

    OP, you didn’t mention how your relationship is normally aside from you being so wrapped up in your studies. How often do you two talk and see each other?

    #434549 Reply
    dixit

    one last thing: you see he was trying to support you verbally. but you didn’t appreciate it at all (perhaps because you would prefer if he gave you more space instead of texting?) so he started to feel useless or redundant. btw. my bf gave me lots of space – but I would prefer words of affirmation! does it make HIM less loving? no, it was just a difference in love languages – harder to understand :)

    #434555 Reply
    Ayaros

    Hello everyone,

    Let’s see. I would like to answer everyone – and I appreciate everyone’s input.

    I understand I’ve been cold, I know that – my question is perhaps how to approach this tonight to make him get away with that frustration.

    Thank dixit. Yes it is sometimes that he is more girly and me more masculine in that sense. But really not like that when we are together, he gets plenty of attention from me. This is very short-term.

    BriLyse, yes, as I said, I know I acted wrong. Unfortunately I’m someone who deals very bad with stress in the sense that I create my own bubble and I don’t really need attention because I’m too focused on my achievements. So I want to know how to make it up for him now.

    Gemini, thank you for your message. Indeed, when I’ll finish my studies (this month) he would get back all my attention.
    This is the whole situation: I’m now in another country because of the studies (exchange abroad). So when we see each other we stay together for a month, and then don’t see each other for one or two weeks maximum. This is the last month long-distance because the 1st of July I’m back to his city. So when we are apart, we have about one Skype every two or 3 days, and he texts me every day (perhaps he skips one day sometimes). I’m terrible with texting, not first one who says it (even my mother says so!) and he deals with it very bad. He cant stand my distance anymore.
    When we are together, though, everything is wonderful and pay all the attention he needs, really not a problem in that sense.

    #434557 Reply
    BriLyse

    Well Gemini615 you have that right, However I DID SAY, if she doesn’t have time for him because she’s focused on herself and her studies, then she needs to dump him and let him move on. But i dont think he’s wrong for confronting her. I’d be pissed off too if i text my man i miss him, and he never says it back, or if i call and he doesn’t have the decency to say “Hey babe, i’m with family right now. I call you later.” Like wtf? I’m needy then and i wear as a badge. To hell with that. If i were him, i would’ve just disappeared on her. But I’m a libra, we do that naturally. lol

    #434558 Reply
    Gemini615

    I would just have a talk with him (if you haven’t already) laying out a timeline for him of what to expect over the next couple weeks until you wrap up your studies. He should at least be understanding of that. I still do not think you are in the wrong for focusing on something as important as your thesis and putting your relationship on the backburner for a bit. As I said before, men do it all the time and women are expected to be understanding and not complain and become needy. He should realize this is just a temporary situation and your relationship will return to normal soon.

    It seems like he needs some sort of reassurance that all will be right again, so just ask for his patience over the next couple weeks and see if you can work out something where he doesn’t feel so neglected but where you can still keep your focus on finishing up your thesis.

    I will say though that he is behaving a bit needy and I find it a bit concerning as for what it could mean in the future. What if you have to go away on a business trip for a while or get caught up in a work project that takes up a lot of your time… is he going to give you a hard time about that too?

    #434560 Reply
    BriLyse

    And it dont matter how long they been together, she said they are talking futures together so it’s obviously serious or she wouldn’t be on here trying to get advice. All i’m saying is she needs to step it up, and he needs to find a more mature way to sort his feelings when speaking to her. I dont like being fussed at by anyone, even when i’m wrong you gotta watch how you talk to me, because i watch how i talk to otehrs, because words are powerful and you cant take it back. If you expect me to actually listen, your delivery has to be on point, otherwise it’s going in one ear and out the other and i’m on defense. In her case, her man should work on his delivery i think. But my answer still stands, a relationship is a responsibilty, it’s fun but it’s also work. If you cant do the work, then set the relationship to the side.

    #434561 Reply
    Gemini615

    BriLyse, she should not have to choose between her relationship or her education; that is simply unfair. It’s not like she’s just a shitty girlfriend on a regular basis and he’s had enough. She’s clearly working on something very important and he should be respectful of her space and quietly supportive of her until she is done. And she has still made time for him when she can. If he doubts her feelings for him because she doesn’t have time to reply to a text, then maybe he’s the one who should be reevaluating if he is able to be in a relationship.

    There is nothing ok about displaying needy behavior to your partner when they really just need your support and patience. When there is a deadline in sight for something like this, then there is no reason he couldn’t have stuck it out and realized everything would be ok after she was finished.

    #434562 Reply
    Ayaros

    Yes brylise, and I am acknowledging I’m
    Wrong – I’m asking how to make it up for him tonight .

    Gemini, that’s a good idea. I should perhaps ask him then how would he feel less neglected.
    I said very stupid things last night because he really got me on my nerves, so told him perhaps we shouldn’t talk at all into next week. So he answered “we don’t talk anyway…”. He is very upset -_-

    P.S. Thank god my thesis went really well. Now few more final exams before I’m done :)

    #434563 Reply
    Ivy

    “Then Sunday he wrote me “I miss you already” and wished me good night. I didn’t answer because I was too much thinking about defending my thesis on Monday.”

    It only would have taken a minute to resond that you missed him too. I would actually be a little upset if I said that to a guy and he just ignored the text. I don’t consider myself a needy person and I am confident and can give a man space but there is a thing in relationships that is called a “bid” and psychologist study that bids for attention that get ignored more often lead to divorce. And the study suggests that reacting negatively to a bid is preferred to ignoring a bid. In this case your bf expressed his emotion to you and you ignored it and according to you more than once. I’d say study or not it’s not very loving and if you did that in a marriage it would end in divorce. Sorry if this is a concept difficult to understand but on a daily basis people have the chance to aknowlege loving words and make eye contact or they have a chance to turn away —- when you chose to turn away repeatedly from someone who loves and cares for you – you can cut the bridge of emotional connection.

    It’s really not so hard to simply text back “Thank you, I miss you too, babe”

    I would adore hearing loving words from a man, not ignore or turn them away. yes, your mind is on something else but so will it be the rest of your life, sometimes the people you need do in fact deserve a moment of reconginition when they bid for your love and attention.

    #434564 Reply
    BriLyse

    BUT he gave her support, and she ignored that too. Whatever, you have your answer and i have mines. She’s not having to choose, if she can find a way to balance the two. If she cant balance them both, then one has to go, and school is more important. If he loves her he will probably work out better as a friend, than a boyfriend while she battles school. When someone because your man or girlfriend, their expectations on your participation in their life is higher. You can say what you want, but thats just reality. She would be upset if he ignored her, or pushed her away like that. Not to mention she didn’t just ignore him for school, she ignored him when she was with fam. Shoot him a text and say i’m with fam, i’ll hit you up later, thats not being needy that’s being considerate. You get what you dish out. Treat others the way you would want to be treated. Period.

    #434568 Reply
    Gemini615

    We can agree to disagree then. Yes, she shouldn’t have ignored his texts when with family, and it does only take seconds to reply back. But I do think she has tried to maintain the relationship in other ways by spending time with him in between her studies and skyping with him on a regular basis.

    I just think it’s interesting that she is considered to be in the wrong here, but any time a woman comes on this forum complaining about her boyfriend being too busy with work or whatever, she is told to give him space and be patient and not make it about her. It should go both ways.

    #434570 Reply
    BriLyse

    LOL. @AYOROS, I’m sorry i’m so busy going back and forth with Gem i didnt even answer your question.
    Dont worry, he was just in his feelings, just say “Hey i’m sorry you’ve been feeling neflected lately, that definitely not my intent. I do miss you, and I do care about our relationship, but my studies are very important to me and sometimes i get so wrapped up that i often forget about other things. But you are important to me, and i will do my best to make sure you see that from this point. However, do me and this relationship a favor and try to be a little more understanding of everything i’m going through. I dont mind you telling me how you feel, i want you to, but dont be so defensive as if i’m doing this on purpose because then i get defensive, and then we will be right back here.”

    Thats what i would say

    #434573 Reply
    BriLyse

    Gemini615, not me. I dont say that too women. I give them tips on how to bring the delivery to a man when he is ignoring her, or when he’s claiming to be “too busy” but NEVER have I EVER told a woman she’s wrong for expecting her man to respond, or engage in the relationship. I tell a woman quick to start living her life, and leave him alone if he’s “too busy” to be her man. Thats simply not right, regardless of the gender. Thats why i said, if she’s too busy with her studies to be an active girlfriend, she has the right too leave him alone and finish her tasks at hand that are obviously more important to her. I dont know why you not reading that part.
    Relationships require BOTH to participate and make time, if one of them cant then they need to rethink on whether a relationship is the right move at the time.
    I know plently of lawyers, doctors, nurses that have to put their personal life on hold so they can achieve their life goal. They dont drop the people out of their lives, the people have lower expectations when they are not in a relationship. If we are friends, then you dont have to respond to my text, or call me back all the time, or tell me you miss me, i wont expect it. But my man, he’s different. Period

    #434575 Reply
    Ivy

    Maybe when men ignore women it’s not good and women tell the women to stand back and be ok with it. That might work in early dating but that does not work in a relationship.

    In early dating a little aloofness lends to the mystery, people are taking their space. In an established relationshp when someone reaches out and the other repeatedly turns that person away, the relationship will eventually end because a person’s emotional needs are not being met.

    Not to say that even in a relationship space isn’t needed but can you imagine being in a relationship with someone who when you said “I miss you” simply ignored you because they were busy. There is a lot of research that says that the little things in a relationship do in fact matter and how many times someone turns towards or away from a bid for connection is a predictor of if a relationship will last.

    If someone says I love you too soon in early dating, we say give them time, cause life is uncertain.

    If in marriage someone ignores their partners bids for attention, love, even sex – that will eventually if done repeatedly put a rip in the relationship, if it continues too long that rip is harder to repair.

    What people do you connect more with? People who say kind things and you acknoledge them back, people who make eye contact, people who when they smile, smile back – or people who ingore those bids for connection. It’s always easier to connect with people who respond (not ingore) bids for affection.

    #434579 Reply
    Ayaros

    Yes Ivy, as I said, I understand I did wrong !
    I’m not excusing myself, I’m now saying how can I recover those “bids” like you say in the conversation tonight. I fucked it up by been inconsiderate, and I want to make him feel appreciated and so on – but I’m VERY BAD in emotional talks such as apologising, and making him realise how much I care. So my question was more towards the direction of some inspiration – like brylise said. I’m bad at finding words to express my feelings (you can even see this by how not many understood my question lol).

    #434580 Reply
    Ayaros

    Like do I tell him something like I’m sorry and I’ll make up for it, or ask how to compromise, or just plainly tell him if he feels too much resentment maybe he is not enough happy with me ?

    #434582 Reply
    Gemini615

    Ayaros, I think what BriLyse outlined for you as far as what to say is a good starting point. Just apologize, let him know he is important to you, and like I said before just work out a timeline with him where he knows exactly what to expect over the next few weeks and maybe you guys can make arrangements to do something celebratory and special once you’ve finally wrapped up your thesis. That way you guys have something to look forward to when this is all over and life can resume back to normal.

    It might also help if you ask him what his expectations are. It sounds like there was a bit of a miscommunication here where you two didn’t talk about what was to be expected before you become so immersed in school. I think you both had different expectations and didn’t voice them to each other ahead of time.

    #434585 Reply
    BriLyse

    AyaRose, it’s fixable. lol. Not to worry. Just be straight forward, in letting him know how you feel about him and the relationship. But he shouldn’t be going off like you NEVER make an effort if you do, we dont know shit we only have what you said.lol
    Thats why in my original post i clearly stated, i’m only going off of what you wrote on here. I dont know how many times you ignored him outside of these two times, or if you constantly do this. You only gave us two examples of you ignoring him. If i were him and you and i were just “talking” but not “official” i would’ve just backed off, and played you to the left. But if you calling yourself my man, I’m going to tell you about yourself and let you know i dont appreciate being ignored.
    I’ve disappeared or became distant on guys that “talk” to for ignoring me, i dont play that. I’ll make them want to talk to me about it, then i’ll let them have it.

    #434587 Reply
    Gemini615

    Do not mention him not being happy with you. He’s not happy with your behavior, but I don’t think he’s unhappy with your relationship overall. It’s good to talk this out now and get your expectations acknowledged and understood because again, if this happens in the future where either one of you are busy and the relationship might take a back seat for a bit, at least you can figure out a way to work together to maintain the relationship even when your lives are crazy busy. Having a plan in action is always a good idea.

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