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  • #485260 Reply
    Gemini615

    I have to agree with Thomas, and I’ve already said you need to take your power back and stop being at his mercy. At this point you are allowing him to determine your mood; that is not what any confident, self respecting woman would ever allow a man to do.

    If he doesn’t want you in his life then that’s HIS loss, not yours. Stop with the pity party, you are better than this. I don’t feel like all the responses are helping here because it’s just encourage you to keep feeling sorry for yourself instead of taking progressive actions to move forward and distance yourself from a man who doesn’t want you. You don’t need coddling right now, you need to wipe away your tears, pick yourself up, and get on with your life. I know it’s not what you want to hear but you have posted on here every single day for the last week sounding so desperate and sad and helpless when it doesn’t have to be like this.

    I’m not minimizing your feelings, because trust me we’ve all been there at some point in life. But I also think this is the time for you to learn how to gracefully move on from men that aren’t worth your time. You are 30 years old, you don’t need a pat on the back for going a week without contact. You really should be thinking why would YOU want to have anyone in your life that pushes you away like this and doesn’t feel happy being around you anymore? Don’t you think you deserve better?

    This will likely not be the last breakup you will face in your life and you have a choice to either continue throwing yourself a pity party and learn absolutely nothing from this experience, or you can change your attitude and realize that HE doesn’t deserve YOU and take the steps to move on to bigger and better things.

    He is just one man and he won’t be the last. He is not worth your tears, and like Thomas said, I doubt he’s sitting at home crying or worrying about you right now.

    #485267 Reply
    P_Asohka

    Beth, how old are you? I only ask cause your behavior sounds as if you’re not experienced with dating and relationships. SPACE IS A HUGE FACTOR to give someone. The best thing a person NEEDS or at least a healthy person. He has not said it’s over so how did you automatically think that?, he needs space and time to himself. Does not mean anything outside of that. NEEDINESS IS NOT ATTRACTIVE. In fact it makes you appear immature and sounds as if you need to fill things in your life. Men love it when they meet a woman who has their own life like all these other posters have told you. Trust him that he will come to you when he’s ready. Don’t accuse him or even talk to him about his space. Just let it go and live on with your life as if this situation has not happened, don’t contact him. Wait for him to reach out.

    Reverse the situation, how would you like a man constantly needing approval or your attention? I’ve been there and it’s not very pleasant.

    #485280 Reply
    Mae

    @ Gemini,

    “You are 30 years old, you don’t need a pat on the back for going a week without contact.”

    Agree, but I was trying to get her to see the positives so she can change her mentality about this whole thing, which will make it easier to move forward. That said, I’m on board with her turning this around and thinking of it as HIS loss and that HE doesn’t deserve her. Admittedly very hard to do because for Beth, it’s feeling like the end of the world. Which brings me to my next point:

    @ Beth,

    “Do I say to myself if I don’t hear by X–then I’ll say happy holidays?”

    Definitely not. I was telling you to see if he reaches out to YOU around the time. Regardless of your status, it’s only polite to wish someone a Happy HannuChristmaKwanzakah or whatever everyone celebrates. If he doesn’t, what does that tell you about his character? If he does, I would go so far as to not respond, or respond with a simple “Thanks, you too.” Do NOT reach our first, and do not respond to anything he says with a question about the relationship.

    #485297 Reply
    beth

    Hi P
    I;m trying to trust that he never did say he wanted to end it so he just needs time
    it’s been a week and IDK
    IDK if that makes any sense what so ever
    I am trying Im trying lots

    #485301 Reply
    P_Asohka

    I totally understand, we’ve all been there too. It’s not our first rodeo lol. It takes time and tons of internalizing. If I were you, ask yourself why you need to text him and initiate when you aren’t around him? Why do you need to constantly text him or reach out to him?

    How does he treat you when you are together? He seemed to put up with your neediness so he did like you. It takes a lot to make a man frustrated and you may have had your limit, but it’s not the end of the world. A week is nothing. He’s out and about living his life, he feels free and not on a ball and chain. THat’s how a man feels when a woman is needy. Just have compassion that men need to think, they don’t process things the way we do they focus on one thing at a time and he needs a woman to understand that. THe more you do, the more he’ll want you around and share his life with you on his own and not feel forced, does that make sense? Communicate with him what you want to avoid necessary space/giving when the time is right. By all means please learn that you do no not need constant reassurance from any man.

    #485314 Reply
    missmarkel

    Anyone reply to my post please.Its been two years i confront my love every month and i dont know how to behave with him when he ruined our 20 year friendship.plz go to my post really complicated and mixed and reply.
    And beth i would say if he have feelings the same you have..he would come back.and if he dont have then he dont deserve you.if he cant even understand you then whats the point of that relationship.
    Anyway if you cant go on without him then wait a little..plan a get together with mutul friends and transform into a new fresh beth who could attract him all over again.too filmy i guess.but thing is add fun .be happy.boys get attract to fresh and cheering and confident gals.not the ones who keep pushing them with irritating demands the usual lines and begging to stay.mine one left me when i pleaded not to go.inspite of my sorries yet i didnt commit any mistake he acted like i was the guilty one.that s what they do when we get attached to them

    #485319 Reply
    beth

    when we are together he is there and present–attentive, loving, and communicative…
    sweet–etc…..

    #485349 Reply
    l

    Hi Beth,
    I’ve been in your shoes in the past and I wish I had really heeed the advice given to me. I was so clouded by my anxiety that it was hard to really hear what the posters were saying. All that mattered to me was if and when I would hear from him again. When my guy finally did come back, I only confirmed his doubts, by sending off a needy/desperate vibe. Keep things in perspective- it’s only been a week.You will always be okay. Be the fun, strong, confident woman he probably fell for. Don’t let a man (or anyone) totally dictate your emotions.

    #485354 Reply
    beth

    I am trying to think he could have said he wanted to end everything
    he was mad and could have easily said that
    he did say the “give me f#$%#%# space”
    IDK

    #485358 Reply
    Maria

    Beth,

    A week is a very short period of time when a guy feels like “give me an effing space”. You need to brace yourself for a longer time period. If he does not contact you on holidays, do NOT contact him yourself, holidays or not. He asked you for space, so give it to him. Later, if he asks you why you did not wish him anything, you can say you asked me not to contact you.

    If he does not wish you anything, you would know what kind of person he is.

    Men do take longer to start missing someone, they also don’t “fall apart” the way we women do. They can feel like that but still able to function and have fun, and I hope you are too. I did, even though I did not enjoy anything, but I kept myself very busy.

    Stay strong, guys come back within 3-4 weeks after NO contact. This is when they realize they miss you and that you will not come chasing after them.

    You did good, it is VERY hard, especially if you love someone and you had a habit of doing the opposite, so give yourself credit, you ARE changing your behaviour, it will take time and you will FEEL this way too.

    Stay strong, do not breach your no contact. It’s only been a week, which is nothing really.

    #485365 Reply
    beth

    I am trying because I do love him
    usually in the past I would have txted or called a bunch of times by now

    #485371 Reply
    Gemini615

    What else are you doing with yourself or your life besides not bugging him with texts and calls? All you keep saying is you’re “trying” and you want a pat on the back for giving him the space he requested, which is what you’re SUPPOSED to do anyway.

    What else have you done to improve yourself and the situation. I would hardly call refraining from texts and calls as “trying”. There needs to be more than that.

    #485375 Reply
    Reality_bites

    Beth, I am rooting for you!, I have been coming to this threat hoping you will have some news from your guy with a big gesture professing how much he loves you and how sorry he is… but you know what that happens only in the movies …I am going through some heartache myself with a guy that wont commit and have receive very good anw counseling… THUS is why I think, this will take time and the pain may change into anger aren’t you upset he cursed? That alone should let you know he is not worth of any second of your time. I am a hopeless romantic, so my advice is think you will find YOUR match and this person can not be him, the guy you are suppose to be with will not make things complicated for you and definitely will not disrespect you … so enjoy a day at a time and go out, , date online ( I am trying hindge and hppn IMO much better than tinder or match), meet friends, go for a frozen yogurt or an spa treatment whatever keep your mind away from your current status
    And let him go, let that relationship die . Take time to process and when ready break up with him YOU can do it. IF it will start again let it have a clean start.

    #485383 Reply
    Market

    Sorry, Beth.

    He sounds like dick. If anybody swore at me “fucking” space? I’d give him the universe and disappear forever. FUCK him. Next!

    I’ll tell you what got my ex interested again… a new, much more successful, hotter guy falling head over heels for me and announcing it everywhere. Believe this… there will be a man who will love you, appreciate you, know how to communicate maturely…like “A new mode” says, “You just have to make room for him”

    Market

    #485404 Reply
    Newbie

    I did that already Thomas. Its superannoying that all posters post 3-10 times the length of good advice and all Beth does is keep going back to ‘i’m really trying’. Very slow learning curve. And for a whole week now. yeah good luck to you Beth, i’m not entertained by this thread anymore.

    #485409 Reply
    Mae

    I understand where you both are coming from. We all want to see Beth progress, too, and it seems like she’s not getting the point. But please know that a week isn’t all that significant when you’re hurting that much. I was in agony like this for about a month; granted I was 19 and now I’m 32.

    And Thomas, I get you. You should always be careful about evaluating the situation when scenarios like this arise. But it’s also a good opportunity for the guy to reflect on his part in the matter. What could he have done differently? No one is responsible for the feelings and reactions of another human being, and it’s not his job to cater to Beth’s insecurity. However, before positioning a girl as “crazy” (which, please don’t do to our faces), just know it does take two. Actions provoke reactions, even if said actions are harmless.

    When my male friends ask for advice, I always tell them two things to avoid female “freakouts:” 1) Never call us crazy; 2) Do your best to not stop trying like you did in the beginning. Do what you say you will. Follow through.

    #485418 Reply
    KateK

    Beth,
    What we hear… “will he call me? I thought he would miss me? it’s been a whole week… I’m trying because I haven’t texted or called… instead I’ve sat here for a whole week wallowing in self pity over a mess that I made and have not taken ownership of and have done no work on myself”.

    What it seems like you hear “….”

    Snap out of it.. put your big girl pants on and get on with your life. No one’s going to do it for you. I’m with Thomas… I can’t see how you would be attractive to anyone right now. sheesh

    #485427 Reply
    Mae

    That’s a good question. Beth, what prompted him to get fed up? Was it a series of things that built up, or was there an icing on the cake? What was your last exchange?

    #485433 Reply
    Phillygirl

    I have to say, I really think Gemini nailed it. You should read what she wrote several times-until it starts to make sense. You are not doing anything to take your focus off of him. In fact, every thought you write screams you are obsessing.

    Case in point: “I am trying because I do love him” which you’ve said over and over.

    This is the whole problem. You are not doing anything out of love for yourself, or out of self respect. It’s like you handed your entire existence over to him.

    If you would really try to refocus your thoughts away from him, and onto something positive, it could change your entire outlook. This kind of stubbornness is very self-defeating. If you were this committed to your own happiness, you could conquer the world .

    No one is saying they can’t understand your pain, but you are the biggest cause of it. You are the only one replaying and perpetuating this constantly, and refusing to do anything to move forward. And guys really do have a sixth sense about this kind of neediness, even when we are not in their vicinity. It is absolutely repellant. Just like we can sense a creep across a room.

    All you are focusing on is him. That is the exact opposite of what you need to do, to be in a different mental and emotional place. Are you even trying to think about anything other than him? Because honestly this just isn’t healthy. This seem more like the behavior of a young teen. And while that would not be healthy either, it would make a little more sense.

    It’s like watching someone continually bang their head against a wall to the brink of consciousness, then cry because it hurts. He may have hurt you initially, but you, and only you are the architect of this ongoing misery.

    #485435 Reply
    Gemini615

    I 100% agree with Thomas. It’s now 11 pages of absolutely ZERO progression whatsoever. And yeah I know it’s going to take more than a week to get over this and I don’t think anyone is saying she should eliminate her feelings for him. It’s only been a week. But go on and on for pages and pages and all she’s doing is whining about missing him, asking if he’ll come back, and saying over and over that she’s “trying” and it’s very hard.

    Beth, idk what else to tell you. I don’t feel like you’re trying hard enough and you just want to lay around feeling sorry for yourself. That’s not productive and you living in this woe is me victim mentally is keeping you stuck instead of helping you move forward. And again, I am honestly shocked that this behavior is coming from a 30 year old. By that age you should have learned some lessons about dating and relationships, especially since you admitted to having a pattern of this type of behavior with past boyfriends.

    If you think this is “trying” then you’ve got a long way to go. All you’re doing is waiting around for him to call you and in the meantime you are putting your life on hold. That is a BIG mistake.

    #485437 Reply
    Gemini615

    Well said Phillygirl.

    #485453 Reply
    Lane

    Nice to see you again Lazerus…how are you doing.

    Hope you get through to her because no one else can seem too. Sigh

    #485460 Reply
    JB

    Beth did say she had an appointment with a therapist though. She is just hurting deeply now and in time it will get better. It sounds like she doesn’t have a great support system and is reaching out here for some support and/or sympathy. ((((HUGS)))) to you Beth, sorry you are going through this.

    #485462 Reply
    Rach

    I’ve made my own forum on this topic I’ve spoken to some of you there!

    Beth I am in the same position as you, it’s hard I know, it’s driving me mad but you have to try your best to be positive. Yes you miss him, yes you want to speak to him but this whole distance thing is making it better for you in the long run even if you don’t see it now! I don’t see it now either but I know it’s true, step outside the box and look st it that way, that’s what I’m trying to do here lol

    #485463 Reply
    Jenny

    Beth, call me harsh but you’re a weak link. Survival of the fittest and you’d be in the first group to be eliminated. That’s okay if that’s how you want to live your life but bottom line, YOU are your greatest adversary right now. Love is the best feeling to experience, love is life but when it becomes toxic *as in your case* it drains you of the good that life has for everyone to feed from. Yes, pat yourself on the back for NC for a week, but CONTINUE with that self-assurance, take what’s left of your dignity and say, “man this sucks, it’s gonna be a real B*TCH to recover from this one. I’ll prob cry and hate life for a second or 2 BUT you got it twisted if you think it’s gonna break me”. Understand that when you continue to fuel a love that compromises your self-worth, you’re imbalanced. We all get that it’s difficult and honestly, it’s 100% OKAY to feel like sh*t! You were REALLY into him and it hurts like hell that the feeling wasn’t reciprocated. You feel rejected and worthless and just outright blue… To feel like that isn’t the problem. The problem lies in sitting stagnant in that emotion. To gain emotional control you must strengthen your mental control and to cry endlessly like a little b*tch will keep you in that head space. It ultimately doesn’t even come down to anything more than the “relationship” with YOURSELF… Strive to be a STRONG, healthy, balanced INDIVIDUAL. That way the good, bad, ugly, wonderful, painful, lovely things that cross your path, simply cross your path and you adjust accordingly *and I’m not saying it’s always at ease, but you can handle it with your integrity and dignity in tact

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