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  • #488938 Reply
    Beth

    @siya
    Idk

    #488939 Reply
    Hannah

    I really think that Kate knows s much more about this situation, she’s the best one to advise you beth.

    I don’t think it was fair of him to not respond, even if he was in a bad place or feeling ill.

    Whether you should now contact him or not I honestly don’t know! You have more therapy today? Don’t do anything before that. See if he gets in touch and talk to your therapist. Do you think your last session helped?

    #488940 Reply
    Tallspicy

    Beth,

    You need to stop waiting to move on and you need to stop contacting him. If he wanted to be with you, he would not put it off for being sick, and he would not in general avoid you and he would attempt to make it better. Right now, he is basically avoiding you.

    I suggest you stop contacting him at all and assume it is over. I know that is scary, but it is unlikely any closure conversation is going to make you feel better anyhow. They never do.

    If he contacts you, then just say – all this back and forth has made me rethink if this is right for me. Right now, it is not. I need to focus on myself, I am taking a step back and assume we are no longer together because we are not acting together when we are not communicating. I wish you the best if luck.

    #488943 Reply
    Beth

    This

    #488945 Reply
    beth

    my thingt off….
    I don’t know anymore-I don’t know what to do

    #488952 Reply
    Nichole

    Hey Beth,
    Hang in there! Move on.. its going to be really hard but someday you will look back and be glad you are not with him. A man that doesnt appreciate you is not worth staying with.

    I said in an earlier post that I was in your shoes about 1.5 years ago and I was a wreck- my friends had to come and drag me out of the house and check my phone to make sure I wasnt texting him…

    Now fast forward and I did a LOT of self reflection on what I went through and I learned that I wouldnt ever be with a guy that treated me like that again.

    You got this girl!

    Start something for yourself.. whether it be learning something new (knitting, guitar, or a new exercise program)..

    Oprah says it best- “There is one irrefutable law of the universe: We are each responsible for our own life. If you’re holding anyone else accountable for your happiness, you’re wasting your time. You must be fearless enough to give yourself the love you didn’t receive”.

    #488965 Reply
    Mae

    Beth,

    I know it’s not easy. I know you’re rattled and broken up based on your sentence fragment replies. I know you keep saying, “I don’t know what to do.” Ultimately, people will do what they want. We can’t stop you from contacting him, from hanging on by a thread, from building your entire identity around whether this man wants to be with you or not.

    Flip the coin… he will do what he wants, and if he wants to continue avoiding you, he will. No, it’s neither fair nor right that he gave you a day to talk, tentatively rescheduled, and didn’t follow up. But it’s the choice he’s making– his actions are telling you he’s not ready to confront this. If he truly wanted to salvage this, you wouldn’t have needed to reach out and corner him on whether you are going to resolve this or not. Whether it was over from the beginning when he asked for space, I don’t know, but I’m inclined to say yes.

    Regardless of whether or not you pushed him to the max, he’s not in a good head space for a relationship; neither are you.

    Let’s say you reach out again, make him commit to a time to catch up, he shows up. If by some slight chance you decide to get back together, you’ll feel temporary relief, but the next time he slightly pulls away or an argument happens, you’ll repeat the same pattern and the same scenario will take place. Or you will live in fear that the same thing will happen and you’ll be walking on eggshells throughout your entire relationship, destroying any joy in the process. It will never be “back to normal”

    I’m sorry to say, I think you need to accept this as over once and for all. Change your locks if he’s not going to give your key back; the fact that he has your stuff is no longer a bargaining point.

    Hopefully your therapy session tonight sheds some more light. I’ve found it takes 3-4 sessions to begin to help. Please, for your sake and for your child’s, move on and work on YOURSELF. I’d avoid dating all together until you’re in a healthy place.

    Not trying to be mean, but I’m sad for you because it seems you are choosing to remain stagnant in a way.

    #488972 Reply
    soni

    beth I read a few pages but not all.

    many of us have gone thru what u have. even I. and I can say from my experience that by pushing it, you are not going to get what u want. ur really hurting and missing him… but u have to start thinking of the possibility that this may very well not work. toughen urself up mentally. from what I read your going to the therapist but your still waiting each min every hour for some communication from him. its not helping u at all. just adding to ur mental pressure and stressing you out completely.

    based on personal experience I still think you may have a chance. but provided you let go of this feeling that u cant live without him. stop waiting for him to revert. let go of the wait. and start living. do not under any circumstance reach out. go NC. work on you. think of this period as not a break but healing urself mentally emotionally. I am almost sure he will reach out. if not today then tomorrow or next week or after 2 weeks or after 4 weeks. but he will. u have to stop connecting with him. think of this period as not breaking up with him but as time out for working on ur self. by the end of one week you will feel better. u will start believing that u can live without him. and its not so bad. with each passing day you will get stronger..

    and when he does connect with you, you may realize you don’t need him anymore. who knows? 1 thing u shld start immediately is workouts. go to the gym every day. go for cardio workouts. will help your state of mind.. all the best dear

    #488995 Reply
    Maria

    Beth, sorry I missed your questions!

    STOP texting now. He is going to string you along and torture you for weeks, if you let him. He is not interested in cutting you off completely, clearly, but he is not giving you ANY consideration or compassion or anything at all. I don’t know him, but from the outside, it appears like he enjoys your turmoil.

    Do NOT text at all. Do not even reply. You tried no contact, you tried being honest with him when you reached out to him, and you did it ok, your note was fine. Short and sincere. There is only one other thing left to try – YOU ignore him. If he texts, do not reply, at all. If he calls, do not reply at all. See what happens. Will he call again a few days later? Will he text again? If yes, then this is NOT over in his head…so you can take it from there…

    If, however, he does not make any additional attempts, he has already “checked out” from you and your relationships. And is not even giving you a courtesy of letting you know, keeping you as a “spare” or a fallback girl, after all he knows you really care about him, so why “throw you away” just yet..

    This is what I would have done at this point. I don’t know if you can do it..?

    #488996 Reply
    beth

    id like to talk to you too hannah

    #489003 Reply
    Nu

    Give it time you will surely recover from this berth. Just don’t bother him with calls and text. Try engage yourself in other activities so that you don’t have to be thinking too much about the beautiful memories your created thus leading to you calling him or texting.

    If he really need and want you in his life he’ll call you to discuss whatever happened between the two of you. The nagging with calls and text will will just make him see you as nagging girlfriend and needy as well as having no life without him . Try hang out with your girlfriends and or spend time with family members just to ease the pain.

    #489031 Reply
    Lane

    I think everyone needs to allow the therapist to take over so she can receive the PROFESSIONAL HELP she truly needs. I understand being there to support someone in need can be helpful, but if that support is hindering her ability to get to the truth, such as their status, then we are doing far more harm than good by allowing it to get this far.

    Beth, I think you need to detach from this forum as its keeping you in a state of emotional despair whereas some of the advice may not be helping you at all and is keeping you STUCK which is not healthy for you or your daughter. I personally believe YOU need to know where you stand with this man NOW—no more delays as waiting around in perpetual LIMBO is not helping, only making you weaker and more miserable as each day passes by.

    Ladies, we need to allow the LICENSED PROFESSIONAL to take it from here as her issues go far beyond BASIC dating/relationship problems. We need to remember we are NOT PROFESSIONALS and once a licensed professional steps in we need to step out.

    #489033 Reply
    beth

    I agree I need to know NOW

    #489034 Reply
    Khadija

    Thank you Lane I totally agree. I keep seeing this thread go on and I think it is time we let the therapist help her at this point.

    #489039 Reply
    Kate

    Beth…I agree with Lane. Look toward your appointment today as another step toward healing and something you are doing for YOU. You’ve received tons of advice here, but we can’t resolve your issues for you. You’re doing a positive, loving thing for yourself by seeing a therapist…focus on that right now.

    #489040 Reply
    Stefanie

    Yes, what Lane said – I see this thread growing and growing and people posting email addresses and I feel so uneasy about it. We aren’t mental health care professionals and I feel some the advice posted has been downright irresponsible and damaging, although well intended. Beth, so sorry you’re still hurting… let someone professionally trained help you get through this now, please.

    #489041 Reply
    Stefanie

    Please take your time to work with your therapist and do post back down the line and let us know how you are getting on. See how Ms Sorrow went to Ms Hopeful to Ms Awesome as she dealt with her issues (Ending My Life post) – she did it and you can do it too. Hugs from all of us.

    #489043 Reply
    Kate

    Stefanie, I posted a generic email for Hannah because I like what she has to say and would like to know more about her off site, and she had expressed an interest in the same. As for Beth, my interactions with her have been to allow her to vent without having to do it here, always encouraging her to allow her therapist to determine her best course of action. And she IS currently seeing a therapist.

    #489049 Reply
    Stefanie

    Kate, up to you if you want to post an email for others who aren’t in crisis. In the case of Beth or anyone in crisis, very very dangerous ground IMO unless you are a licensed therapist and offering professional help. I know you’re think you’re helping but you may very well be doing the opposite. I get you mean well, I dont’ mean to insult you. I feel very, very strongly about this, having dealt with some heavy duty mental health issues of my own this year. There comes a point when friends, concerned parties, family have to back off and let a professional handle or they can very easily winding up making things worse. I don’t have the right to dictate your behavior but please think twice before you do this sort of thing on this site for someone in a crisis.

    #489052 Reply
    Kate

    Again, I have never tried to “manage” Beth’s crisis and have repeatedly encouraged her continued participation in therapy. I was only there as a “text me instead of him when you get the urge, and I’ll talk you out of it.” I have flat out stated that her problems are not something I’m willing to help her resolve, but that her therapist will. And for the record, I actually do have a counseling background. Not what I’m currently doing and nothing that I want to do at this time, but how I began my professional life out of college.

    #489054 Reply
    Stefanie

    yes Kate I get it… there is no way of knowing that is best for her, that’s all I’m saying…

    I had a FB friend (who I didn’t know in real life) with a counseling background jump in and try to help me when I was having a crisis and he wound up doing me harm despite his good intent.

    #489075 Reply
    hannah

    Kate I’ll email you now! Thanks for that!

    I don’t think there’s any harm in regular posters being in touch off this site. We could technically all get in touch via the ANM Facebook page and become friends on there if people weren’t worried about identities.

    I also very much agree with Lane. I think the only support I can reasonably give Beth at the moment is to ask how she’s doing and be there as a sounding board but I’m at a loss with advice. But Beth I’m more than happy for Kateto pass on my email if you want someone to vent to!

    I hope this isn’t crossing a line! It’s well intentioned and I guess Eric can decide if we’ve gone too far.

    #489079 Reply
    Stefanie

    Hannah, I made very certain to distinguish between people contacting each other off site because they want to connect and know each other in the real world and people who are trying to save someone in a crisis. I’m in touch with a number of people off this site and I’m really glad about that. I’m not picking on Kate, I’ve seen others ask for emails and even phone numbers. Extremely dangerous territory as we are not a crisis support centre.

    #489158 Reply
    Hannah

    Stefanie I totally get the distinction! I think I’d be more comfortable giving support and advice on here where it can be moderated and balanced with other opinions. I don’t want to be the sole influencing person on anyone. I’m not qualified and it’s a huge responsibility! But having a chat with people away from the site would be nice.

    #489168 Reply
    K

    ok so i like a guy and he knows that and idk if he does he said he doesn’t want a relationship right now he doesn’t want to be like one he wants to talk to anyone he wants without being yelled at he said he wants to stay as friends but idk if he stares at me or someone else or he isn’t staring at me at all but i think he does stare at me but i like him alot but i guess he doesn’t seem to see that what do i do what do i ask him what can i do.

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