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  • #489169 Reply
    K

    i put this in the wrong one

    #489173 Reply
    KateK

    I think Beth’s thread had been hijacked again lol… I feel badly, she’s quiet and I think we all know what that means. We are here for you Beth.. there is not a woman out there who has not felt what you are feeling. It can be crippling. I had my heart broken so badly a few years ago and I found great solace in my children. Doing projects and movie nights with them all cozied up on the couch, helped me realize I am happy and loved with or without a man in my life. Men come and go.. and we survive in spite because we have irreplaceable girlfriends (in person and here on ANM) and family. It is the holiday season, I know it wil be difficult but I hope you can count your blessings rather than mourn what was not meant to be.

    #489178 Reply
    Stefanie

    I get you Hannah. You’re right it’s really up to Eric to make policy on what to do in the case of person in crisis. I’d be a hypocrite to tell you not to connect off site, a number of have and I’ve got some great friends because of it. I really hope Beth can get through this crisis with her therapist and come and tell us in due course that she is better.

    #489181 Reply
    Happy

    Nothing personal.. But y’all are so interested in what you have offer our ms Beth checked out.

    I agree.. I haven’t heard anyone on here qualified to counsel her and she is seeing a professional.

    #489182 Reply
    Stefanie

    I think Beth is probably asleep. Depedning on where she lives.

    #489184 Reply
    Beth

    It’s not working

    #489185 Reply
    Beth

    Posts won’t work

    #489186 Reply
    Kate

    Beth has actually been trying to reply but is having a tech issue…her comments aren’t posting (she was concerned she’d been banned but I seriously doubt that). She said she is still here, went to her therapist again today and plans to continue once or twice a week for now (which is great, IMO). That’s all I know, but I’m sure she’ll be back when she resolves her computer issue.

    #489188 Reply
    Kate

    Beth, if you’re there, your posts are now showing up.

    #489192 Reply
    Beth

    Can’t sleep

    #489205 Reply
    Micky

    Beth,

    If your having trouble posting is usually because you are using a word that’s banned.

    Read through what you have written again and eliminate any words that are banned

    Such as

    S p e l l or words with this in it, such as s p e l l I n g s

    W I t c h such as s w I t c h

    M a g I c

    C r a f t

    Its due to spammers. Eliminate these words and you should be able to post.

    #489257 Reply
    beth

    IDK anymore

    #489314 Reply
    beth

    having a tough time

    #489333 Reply
    Mae

    Beth,

    At this point, most of us think you need to take Lane’s latest advice seriously. Hugs and best of luck to you.

    “Beth, I think you need to detach from this forum as its keeping you in a state of emotional despair whereas some of the advice may not be helping you at all and is keeping you STUCK which is not healthy for you or your daughter. I personally believe YOU need to know where you stand with this man NOW—no more delays as waiting around in perpetual LIMBO is not helping, only making you weaker and more miserable as each day passes by.

    Ladies, we need to allow the LICENSED PROFESSIONAL to take it from here as her issues go far beyond BASIC dating/relationship problems. We need to remember we are NOT PROFESSIONALS and once a licensed professional steps in we need to step out.”

    #489604 Reply
    Jippity

    I, think whether or not Beth detaches from this forum, needs answers from this man now, or that this forum is keeping beth stuck is up to beth and her therapist to decide.

    With all due respect Lane, as I have genuinely appreciated your advice on my own problem, I think your advice could also be damaging here. It may make beth feel isolated or rejected. Also, we do not know if beth has any other coping strategies in place, so abruptly removing this one (via being told to detach) could be dangerous.

    Perhaps if we accept that none of us are in a position to tell beth what she should or should not do, but agree to be a safe space where beth can air her thoughts in between therapy sessions, is a better compromise.

    Beth, please speak to your therapist about this forum. IF they feel you need to detach from it, they will help you to do so in a safe way, so that you have other outlets for the thoughts that go round and round and round.

    Please let us know what your therapist says.

    #489625 Reply
    Eric Charles
    Keymaster

    Hey everyone,

    I imagine I’ll write a more verbose post at some point, but here are my thoughts…

    From this point forward, please do not contact each other (or suggest contact) outside the forums. That includes (but is not limited to) giving email addresses, Facebook contact info, external Facebook groups or meeting through any other media or website.

    I believe everyone’s heart is in the right place and nobody is in trouble here, but it opens up significant concerns (and potential legal situations) when people are jumping from this forum to external communication… regardless of the reason.

    I know this hasn’t been something I’ve cracked down on in the past, but it’s come up recently and the only way I can control it is to make a clear rule: no contact (or suggesting contact) on other sights. Keep it in the forum.

    #489626 Reply
    Eric Charles
    Keymaster

    Also, beth, you are free to use this forum as you wish as long as you want.

    Those that want to respond can and those that don’t wish to respond don’t have to.

    I believe that everyone pitching in on the thread wants to help you and wants to see you happy. If multiple people are suggesting professional help, it sounds like something worth consider. I am all for self improvement, but I’ve always been an avid supporter of professional help. This forum is a great community, but is not professional guidance and should not be construed as such. That said, you are totally welcome to keep posting here as you wish.

    #489651 Reply
    SthrnBelle

    How are you doing Beth? I read through your thread and just wanted you to know that we are here for you and with you. I hope you can feel that this is a safe place for you and you will not be judged. I know how hard that can be when you are already immensely suffering. Sometimes as outsiders people feel that you are not improving but I think if we have empathy and try to put ourselves in your shoes, those of us that have been there know what it feels like. I know that when I was suffering like you I would repeat the same thing over and over and could talk about what others may consider nonsense for hours. In fact I had to just vent and be heard. Sometimes nothing said to you will help at the moment but do remember that first it is just pure survival and do remember that we have ears and shoulders here even if only virtually. Just knowing that there are people here for you can help.

    I would suggest that you repeat two things to yourself. One is that you are loved. Yes you are loved. Your girl loves you, your family loves you and we are also genuinely here for you (most of us at least). I think that trauma in your life makes you feel unloved and unlovable and this is absolutely not true. This feeling only hinders your ability to have a successful relationship but therapy will hopefully help with that.

    Secondly keep telling yourself that you are strong. You are really strong for already showing as much strength as you have.

    I know that nothings seems to help now. I have been there. Through anxiety when I could not sleep, eat or even cry, just suffer. This is not your fault. Do not blame yourself. It is also possible that this man was not right for you but also tell yourself that it will get better, it always does. Even when you think it cannot, it will.

    Remember that for a few days or even weeks sharing, therapy and survival are your priorities, then you can start opening up to the world. Some of us are ready after the first few days but some of us are not. Some of us simply suffer more deeply. We are not created the same.

    Again I can only feel for you and with you as I have been there, every break breaks me but there are always new beginnings, this relationship has begun too somehow.

    Sometimes you never get an answer as to the status quo and the why-s, all you can do now is to close this limbo in you as it is now your choice to end it in yourself. Forget about your stuff for the moment, this is irrelevant.

    I am really hoping that therapy will help you but I do know that it is not enough by itself as you can still feel really alone, this is why we are here and you can come here several times a day when you need support.

    I do wish you could open up a bit with us. I think it is even harder because you are internalizing most of the pain and I think you feel almost immobilized. Keep us posted please. I will be looking forward to updates from you.

    #489683 Reply
    Lane

    Jippity, when I see a person STUCK and not able to do anything but remain in the same dark place for well over a week then I don’t see how the forum was actually helping her, but potentially making it worse by not allowing her the opportunity to find out where she stood with him.

    I think this NC advice can be damaging in certain situations, such as this, and is not a one-size-fits-all tool to use in every circumstance. Again, we are not professionals and when I see a person spiraling into further despair its a pretty good sign we could very well be doing them harm, so when the professional stepped in I believe its best to allow them to treat their patient.

    I never said she couldn’t post, but that she needed to detach from this forum for a bit as she really wasn’t posting anything other than “IDK”, “IDK anything”, “I’m worried”, “its tough” which is why I FELT the forum wasn’t supporting her in a healthy way by the 22nd page and she needed to know where she stood. She has the support of friends, family and a therapist so I don’t believe anything I said was harmful or dangerous to her as we are not a “certified crisis center” as there are state licensing requirements and one needs to be trained and approved by the State before providing that kind of help—we can DIRECT them to one, but should never operate as one.

    I truly hope she has AN ANSWER so she can at least know which direction to take. I’m all for supporting her but we need to know HOW to support her and right now at this point-in-time I personally believe the professional is the best person to do this.

    #489730 Reply
    Beth

    I’m still here
    Idk what to say

    #489735 Reply
    Jippity

    Lane,

    Beth is stuck in this dark place because of her circumstances, not because of this forum. In my view she is merely using this forum as a space to air the thoughts circling around in her head, and not feel alone. she’s not actually asking for much advice, just to be able to get those thoughts out of her head and not feel alone.

    I feel your frustration on this, I am frustrated for Beth too. I just also feel that telling her to detach from the forum could be taken, in her current emotional state, as a further rejection. I don’t believe that you meant it that way, or mean anything other than to help Beth.

    I agree that she *should* know the outcome of her BF needing space by now. It is unfair of him to keep her in turmoil like this. Hopefully the next therapy session will guide Beth in to getting, or accepting through his actions, a clear answer from her BF.

    I am a mental health professional (retired on health grounds), so in my experience, a week or so of being stuck in the same repetitive thought patterns brought on by emotional distress isn’t a long time. It can go on for months, or even years. Beth immediately sought professional help and should be applauded for it, as that shows strength and a willingness to change. It just doesn’t happen within a week. It WILL happen a great deal quicker now that Beth has found a therapist, than if she had not.

    Beth is making the steps she needs to make in order to get well, she’s not stuck or spiraling further in to despair. It’s just that progress is slow (as it always is).

    #489737 Reply
    Jippity

    Also Lane, I agree that NC isn’t always helpful in all situations. It’s up to Beth and her therapist to decide on whether she should contact him, but I suspect the therapist would agree with you.

    #489741 Reply
    Beth

    @jippity
    Thanks

    #489753 Reply
    Malley

    Whatever you do, do not contact him. Give him space. Let him see you living your life and make him want you and want to be a part of your fun life. If you act needy you will just make him more desperate to get away from you. If you give him space maybe one day he will want to see you again to see how you are getting on without him.

    If he does, play it cool.

    #489756 Reply
    Hannah

    Jippity I agree totally. Beth has sought out a therapist and I’m not sure we’re really advising her on here at the moment, just offering a bit of support and encouragement.

    Lane also makes a good point about NC. Sometimes it doesn’t work. I’ve had times when it would have driven me crazy and I’ve needed to know what’s going on.

    I think that’s up to beth and her therapist to decide.

    I hope you’re doing OK Beth!

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