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Okay, so here is an update from the guy I posted about last time. A few weeks ago, I was concerned that this guy ONLY wanted sex because he stopped showing effort for me as far as dating goes. Quivk recap- we met on a dating app, hit it off really well, he eventually asked me out, we had two pretty great dates, then it seemed like he wanted to just hang out at his place all the time.. I had called him out on that and explained to him that I was confused about what he wanted and I didn’t even understand if he actually liked me or not… I am skipping over most of that conversation here, but basically he said that he “doesn’t catch feelings overnight” and that he isn’t sure what he wants right now but that if I want something serious, he can’t do that right now and so I should date someone else..
Well, I do still enjoy his company and I find him attractive. I am not having a bunch of feelings for him or anything and since he doesn’t do anything that makes me feel like he’s romantically interested and because I haven’t had sex in a long time… Like, months! I figured that it would be fine to keep things casual with him. So I told him that. I said I am okay with us just keeping things casual for now but that I will continue to date other guys. He agreed. We have continued to go out, spend lots of time at his place, etc. I haven’t actually found anyone else to date just yet, but I figured that this was a comfortable enough situation for me for right now. We enjoy each other, he is always texting me/calling, always making sure that we are hanging out at least once or twice a week (he initiates).. It has been nice (for the most part).
Here is where I get confused.. Every time we hang out, he is all over me. We spend A LOT of time making out and we have basically done everything besides actually have sex. He isn’t very verbal which makes me still unsure of how he feels. Usually a guy would be telling me that I am attractive or something at the very least.. This guy has only done that like two or three times. But every time it starts getting hot and heavy, something comes up.. He has to eat or go to bed (he is on a strict meal plan and he has to go to bed pretty early because he has to wake up at 2am to go to work everyday), or we are “out of time” because his mom will be home soon (yes, he still lives with his parents… We are both at that sort of in between stage where we are paying rent and trying to make it on our own but we’re not quite there), or he is too tired.. Yep, you heard that right. He actually fell asleep on me once.. ON me. He was actually on top of me, we were making out pretty heavily, both half undressed, and he fell asleep. I have expressed how frustrated he is making me… We have been casually dating for over a month now, so I thought we would have had sex by now.. Especially because it has gotten to the point where I can see that he wants to, but then he holds back for some reason.. He has apologized for frustrating me, has promised that we would do more the next time he sees me.. and then he has not followed through. Several times! I tried talking to him about this and he says that he wants it but that he isn’t ready, that he needs to be more comfortable with me first. He says that he is sorry that I am frustrated but that this just means it eill be so much bettwr when we finally do have sex. He has also said that he likes being able to tell me no.. Then, after the last time, he said that he will make next time all about pleasuring me and that he will make sure that I get off (doing the things that we already do but that he never finishes with. Um..?) But I feel like he’s scared? Or gay? Or maybe he just enjoys seeing me be frustrated??
I am completely thrown off right now. We did the whole “taking it slow” thing already.. I figured that when the girl feels comfortable with the guy, then she stops trying to slow it down and then they have sex.. But I have been past that point and I have told him that I am ready and that I don’t want him to hold back anymore. He is the first guy I have ever known to not just go for it. I have tried letting him take control- that doesn’t work. So I have tried being aggressive, and THAT doesn’t work. He has gotten me so frustrated and confused that I am to the point of tears now. I just don’t get it. I am wondering if he is scared because maybe he’s a virgin? Although he is 25 and actually very attractive and in shape, so that would really surprise me.. And because he seemed to be seeking out sex so much in the beginning that he had ME nervous and wanting to back off. Last time though, it got to the point where I was visibly frustrated (and angry) and he said “Why does it always have to be about sex with you?” But um, maybe I wouldn’t want it from him so bad if he didn’t keep making me think we were about to do it, you know? It feels very unfair. Can someone please help me with understanding what is going on? Apparently he wants me to stay the night sometimes, he has planned for me to stay a week with him when he house-sits for a family member in June, he keeps wanting my company.. But he won’t have sex with me. Why not? Is this actually a thing that guys do? I mean, maybe I’m just being immature and not understanding.. But that’s why I came here.
I also have been developing more of an actual friendship with the guy so I don’t want to be mean to him. I do care about him to some extent (whatever extent is possible when our “relationship/friendship” mainly involves us just fooling around), and I don’t want to seem manipulative. But I do have that side of me.. That is very sexual and kind of needy when it comes to sex. I have been feeling very aggressive towards him, sexually. Like I am wanting to text him things and do other things when I am with him.. That’s how I am when I am comfortable with a guy. But I am trying to hold back because, like I said, I don’t want to make him uncomfortable. But honestly.. I feel a little like pulling my hair out now. Someone please help me understand this?
NewbieHi, i cant tell why he is like that, but you are getting more and more agressive about it and i doubt that guy will find that very atttractive. I think it is your ego now that wants him, to validate you are attractive etc. Stop pounding yourself to this wall. It looks like you don’t understand each other very well if at first you thought he only wanted sex amd now its the opposite. I think you should back off, call it defeat and go date other guys.
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The first thing I am thinking is that this guy is using sex as a tool over you. Jeez I think some guys are just like women…they withhold sex because they know you want it. Its a bit manipulative. He knows you want it…he also probably knows that once you do it then you may be even more infatuated with him.
I say stop getting into those heavy makeout sessions. Go out instead of home dates…really do things that have no connection to sex. Go bowling, see a movie and take things slow. Your problem right now is actually better than if he was to have sex then leave. Maybe he is not ready who knows if 6 months down he still isn’t sleeping with you then maybe he has a low sex drive…however if you feel that sex is your next level and this is really disappointing then stop seeing him.
HannahYou have only been seeing him a month. You are pushing and pushing him, and analyzing everything. Not only that, but telling him exactly all your concerns. First you want a relationship, now you want sex. Can you not just be happy spending time with him? If not, you’re with the wrong person.
This is about the 2 of you feeling comfortable together. How would you feel if he was pressuring you for sex and you weren’t ready? A man likes to be a man in a relationship. You are being the pusher and the aggressor. He probably feels a bit immasculinated. That’s not sexy. Back off, be feminine and receptive and you’ll be having sex in no time.
But, considering you already have all these issues with him, are you sure this is worth pursuing?
LHmm.. Those are good points. I thought that maybe part of it is that he wanted me to be the aggressor.. Considering that when we even do things, he can’t stand ever being on top.
And yes, I want a relationship, but he made it clear that he doesn’t want one. As soon as he said that he only wanted something casual, I figured that meant just sex- which I am fine with because I don’t have feelings for him (ever since he decided to complain about how the guy has to make all the plans and how he doesn’t have enough money for us to be going out all the time and asking me to go dutch on everything- kind of a huge turn off), so I am thinking okay, so we are basically just fwb then right? Because what else would this be considered? But fwb means sex to me…
So okay, I can hold back then.. Which I did today when I saw him (I just sort of let him touch but didn’t give in so as not to get frustrated yet again), but he is always initiating us fooling around, then getting all giggly and saying we should stop. So I did today. Every time he said that today (this happened at least 5 different times during our time together), I just said okay and let it go. I didn’t get mad this time because I wanted to see if it would help with anything. I am fine with us just hanging out, I do actually enjoy his company.. but us just hanging out can never be that- he ALWAYS wants to make out. We went to a movie and spent the whole time making out. We went to the park, same thing. He initiates all of it as well, not me. It is when he always initiates and then doesn’t want to follow through that I get frustrated. Does that make sense? It keeps feeling like he really wants it- because he keeps getting to the point where I can see that he is struggling but then he always says no. He keeps saying he wants it but we can’t yet. He said that it will make sense to me later..
I am keeping my options open, trying to find someone else. But right now, there is no one else. I am on three different dating websites, but those guys don’t follow through. Believe me, if I were to find one that interested me and actually wanted a relationship, then I would be focused on that rather than why this guy won’t sleep with me..
Okay, so what I’m understanding from you all is that I should just back off. I can try and do that. But I am still not understanding his behavior all. I feel like maybe if he actually had a reasonable explanation for this, then that would be fine. But saying he isn’t comfortable enough yet doesn’t make sense. Because why is he fine doing everything else? Also honestly, how would you be feeling if a guy kept getting to that place with you, saying he wants you, undressing you, having his hands everywhere and then continuously saying he can’t do it yet? I think it makes sense that I am frustrated lol.
I suppose I can try asking that we don’t spend as much time at his house. But last time I tried that, he made up all kinds of excuses so I just figured, fine, if all he wants is to have sex (because I assumed that’s why he wanted me there) then okay. But now it’s like he just wants me there so he can touch me and have something to look at and talk to.. I mean, is there anything I can say in response to that? Or a way I can maneuver our interactions so this doesn’t keep being an issue? I’ve tried telling him that I don’t want to get into it if he isn’t going to follow through and then he gets mad and asks why I’m not happy “just spending time with him and enjoying his company”. I DO enjoy his company, but isn’t it a little unfair that he keeps putting me in this place? I have considered breaking it off altogether but I feel like I would just sound manipulative- I don’t want to sound like a guy who only wants sex…I’ve been there and it doesn’t feel good. But again, I’m always used to the guy initiating it all. At this point, it’d be like a guy breaking up with me because I won’t have sex with him if I was always the one initiating it. I wouldn’t be initiating it if I didn’t want it.. This makes absolutely zero sense to me Today I couldn’t even let myself get into any of it. I just like stayed in place and let him do whatever because apparently that’s how he wants it. Seriously though, how the hell are we supposed to act when a guy is acting like he wants it and making us have those kinds of physical reactions but then just decides he’s not into it or whatever? What am I supposed to do, pretend like I am not effected by it all? That doesn’t seem fair.. How do I just pull back and act all feminine again when this is what it’s turned into?
LIf there actually is a way to redeem this situation, I would like to try. Just tell me what I need to do please. Like I said, even if we go out places, he is still going to want us to fool around so I’m not sure how to work around that.
Rose“he said that he “doesn’t catch feelings overnight” and that he isn’t sure what he wants right now but that if I want something serious, he can’t do that right now and so I should date someone else..”
That’s your answer. Read it again. Men say what they mean but we don’t pay attention. It doesn’t matter if you think he wants something else, he doesn’t.
LI am honestly starting to feel just a tiny bit crazy. I don’t feel like I should be this frustrated and depressed over this that I feel like crying, but I do.. I was even tempted to text him tonight to apologize how I have been acting and telling him that I feel like I am coming off a bit strong and that I’ll stop.. But I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t be smart of me so I didn’t.. Just feeling so blah right now. I was so excited about this guy before and it used to feel like we clicked so much.. But now I just feel stupid.
LekishaHe told you very early on, that he is just not there to have a serious relationship now. And you keep on meeting him, spend your time with him and waiting to have sex and give you more compliments. I don’t think you should waste any time with him. 1. You will be attached to him soon, if this continues. 2. You wrote a very long post, full with doubts and looks like you are think and analyze too much about him! Don’t 3.There is plenty of fish out there! Leave him be and find someone else.
LHuh- you know what, I think you’re right. I mean, it would be nice to at least be able to have sex right now. It’s a little frustrating to finally find someone who is not a total creep- yet of course he also won’t sleep with me. And I am only human, so that part is really irritating me right now.. But I think you are right about the thinking about him too much thing. I have been and I need to stop before I start having real feelings… If anything, maybe it shouldn’t even matter what is going on in this situation since none of it actually means anything… I dont know why I lost sight of that. Thank you @Lekeisha.
HannahHmm this man sounds very strange the more you talk about him. Maybe he has performance issues? How often do you see him? Is there any chance he’s in a relationship?
I really don’t know what’s going on but it’s not good for you. Now you’ve described it, I would be frustrated too! Personally, I’d say you don’t want to do anything sexual until it leads to sex because it’s leaving you unsatisfied. Don’t do it if it doesn’t make you feel good!
Ultimately though, he’s not making you happy, he doesn’t want a relationship and this seems like a total waste of your time.
L@Rose and @Lekeisha, I just re-read your responses and now I actually get what you were saying. I don’t want a relationship with him! Lol. That’s not what I’m getting at here. I was just hoping that he would at least be someone that I could have fun with while dating others (until I find what I want). Since he seemed like he wanted something casual, I figured that meant sex… Apparently not. When I mentioned “redeeming the situation”, I meant that I was wondering if there was a way to get him wanting to actually have sex.. Like if there was a way to change my behavior or something I could say that would help.. I didn’t mean that I want him to “catch” those feelings.
@Hannah, I was wondering if it might be performance issues.. We’re all adults so I’ll just be blunt here- he does not satisfy. When we do oral, it feels wonderful. But he can’t get his fingers right when we’re doing that. I’ve realized that there is a particular position where he gets in where it starts to feel like “right there” you know? But when I react to it feeling good, he gets all giggly and weird and stops… Like when I’m right there! It’s extremely disappointing and frustrating. I’m glad that you get what I’m saying though.. I have considered breaking it off because of this, but what would I even say without sounding totally manipulative? I mean, I know it’s just sex, but you know, sex is kind of important to me actually so… My bad for feeling that way. But if we are just doing something “casual” as he put it, then I feel like sex is supposed to be part of it.. This feels like a very strange situation and like it is beyond my understanding..
MIt doesn’t matter why he’s not giving you what you want, only that he isn’t giving you what you want.
You want a relationship. He doesn’t.
You want sex. He’s playing games and not putting out.
So why are you sticking around for this? Date and then save yourself for a man who DOES want a relationship with you. Or if you really can’t wait for sex, find a guy who is actually going to give you sex. And he fell asleep on TOP of you in the middle of making out? There is something very, very wrong with this man, either emotionally/mentally or physically.
Why are you lowering yourself to having to beg for sex from a man when you could go to a bar and have sex with a guy an hour later if that’s really what you want?
L@M- I have no idea. And I like your wording of that. It makes a lot of sense that I should just forget about this one. I keep finding myself being way too invested in people like this. But I think I figured it out now. I talked about it to a couple of friends last night and they said that I might as well break it off or at least refuse to fool around with him since he’s apparently never going to follow through. And one of my friends was a guy and he told me that when a guy acts like that, that he’s just not into it at all, so that I should move on. So I’m thinking that’s the plan. I do want sex.. I’d be fine with a casual situation until I meet someone who would want to be in a relationship with me (that I also would actually want to be with- the two usually don’t go together), but I’m not trying to hook up with a guy after knowing him for an hour. That seems pretty dangerous to me.. I think that’s why I might have been so stuck on this guy putting out- because I’ve spent enough time with him to where I’m finally feeling comfortable enough to sleep with him and it takes a lot to get to that point with someone.. It’s annoying that I invested time and energy into that to not even be getting what I want in the end. I’m also not looking to have sex with different random guys all the time. I kind of would like an ongoing casual thing (at the very least). I’m at a place where I want a relationship, but how everything has been going lately (with men, work, school, etc.), I honestly don’t even know that I have the patience to try for a relationship right now. If I could at least just have someone to have fun with right now, but in a way that doesn’t feel totally random and dangerous, that would be great.
Gary SnyderIt sounds like he has issues.
MariaIf you cut all contact now, it will drive him crazy. Don’t forget, he is getting into all this too, it means a lot to guys, they begin to crave it, not only women produce hormones. I heard guys saying they are “addicted” to this or that woman’s sex, intimacy etc, and even though they might not love it, they WANT this contact.
So cut him off. And observe. After 2-3 weeks his dick will be on fire for you. lol
PamelaThere is a possibility he likes men, and he is only experimenting with you, hence the giggling and acting weird part you mentioned.
Think about it. He may indeed be gay..
Miss_AspiringThis guy is a total waste of your time, and yes he might be gay. If you want a relationship, please don’t settle for FWB. Find a guy who wants to commit to you. I promise he is out there. It will be a much more satisfying experience in every way.
LylaWow a lot of this sounds like the guy I’ve fallen for we are best friends we have hooked up in the past but very rarely.he keeps a watch on all my friendships and relationships. Now he only shows interest if someone else begins to move in on me. He once sent me a drunken “I hate you text” when I left the bar with my ex. Any guy in the last 2 years that has expressed interest in me has question my friendship with him, not because of my behavior but they can sense my best friends behavior being off. He refuses to have sex with me now but does everything else, I’m pretty sure it’s because his new roommate has expressed having a crush on me and so my best friend wants to claim me. I don’t know what to do because i love him and we have been close for 2 going on 3 years now. How did your situation turn out?
T from NYNever, ever be with a man that plays games with you. Not good for the self esteem whatsoever.
I agree that you should only be looking for men who want relationship because that is what your heart truly desires. Every nite or day you spend with a guy that is not into you enough to explore dating you — are moments you lose out trying to find THE guy.
Oh — and get a rabbit vibrator. You’ll will never be this sex-crazed again. One of the best inventions of all womankind 😊
carlottaIt’s easy to latch on to something when you know what to expect, even if it’s unpleasant. You said yourself you’re having a hard time finding a guy you REALLY want to date, so it’s just easier to continue to hang with this guy and hope he gives you what you want because you know what to expect with him, even if that isn’t really what you want.
I don’t think you need to say much to him other than “I don’t want to see you anymore. We aren’t compatible and you aren’t what I’m looking for.” That’s it. It’s not manipulative, it doesn’t demand some long, drawn out conversation. It’s just the plain old straightforward truth. You don’t want to the same things, obviously, so you can just tell him so and get comfortable with someone else. I’ve also found that when I’m hung up on one person, I find a lot fewer dates, because even though I am not exclusive with that person, they are still taking up space that could be open to someone else. Just foot for thought.
CrisulaHe told you that you should date others, but you decided to stick around for sex.
However, he’s not giving you sex…so why are you sticking around?
CaryI have the same problem with a guy that I like we fooled around and I always insinuate first he doesn’t and we never end up having sex it’s been 2 years I think it’s been a long time I’ve been waiting but I like to hang around with him I find them very attractive he makes me feel good and I like the fooling around part but I get frustrated because he never wants to have sex I think when you’re making out with somebody you get the person excited you do everything else besides sex I don’t understand please help me give me advice is he gay cuz you have issues is it because he gets nervous problem he have issues he always says he’s tired or that his knee hurts I don’t understand. he wants told me that he knows a guy is gay cuz the way he puts his lips is that considered cuz he said that could it be gay cuz he said that I don’t know it’s just weird and the story of the girl is similar to me but the guy doesn’t insinuate it I do
MaddieThis is an old thread and you should start your own if you’re asking about the same situation but…
Being confused is a huge red flag. It can mean one or both of you isn’t communicating well / honestly, you’re not both on the same page about what you want, or someone is being inconsistent and their words / actions / feelings aren’t aligned. All of these are bad for a relationship, and even for something casual!
You can’t sex a guy into wanting a relationship, and if there are confusing problems even getting to sex though you both are saying you want it, it’s not going to get better. (Physical performance issues may be an exception because they can happen without it meaning there’s a problem with relating to each other, but in that case you wouldn’t feel confused about what is going on.) In this situation there’s always something that doesn’t have anything to do with you that’s in the way on his side.
And in a situation like that where you’re not already in an established serious relationship and things feel confusing and complicated and most likely incompatible, you don’t need to wait around letting the other person come around or change or make the decision for you. You decide what you want and do what’s best for you! Which generally means saying directly what you want and then looking elsewhere if the person doesn’t step up to meet you there. Good, healthy relationships, and even good FWB, shouldn’t be so difficult or complicated or confusing. Love (or sex) doesn’t need to be “chased.” And sticking around for these situationships out of fear, because you believe you may not meet anyone else, never ends well… fear-based decisions generally don’t make anyone happy.
There’s the Mark Manson book that says if it’s not a f*ck yes then it’s a no, and I think that applies well to this situation.
MaddieI was replying to vip, but looks like the post got moved so I’ll copy and paste my response there instead!
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