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  • #397367 Reply
    bella11

    I’ve been dating a lovely guy for 6 weeks things were going really well. He told me he didn’t want to date anyone else as he liked me.

    Our last date was lovely planning next dates and he was saying how well we get on and how stunning I looked that night. Then I got a little drunk and bits missing from the night.

    I stayed over at his and we slept together that nights cuddles in the morning and made plans for the following weekend, He also kept reminding me a few times last night i told him I didn’t say it very often but I’d did like him to which I replied “I was drunk lol.

    We texted for next few nights everything fine and arranged a day for 2 days later. He then had to cancel the next date due to work commitments. I just said “no worries you will have to make it up to me wink.” To which he replied when I have a min in about a year lol(wft)

    1st mistake I then text “we still on for next weekend “No response . I then did the totally wrong thing as couldn’t remember all the date and was thinking I said or done something to upset him while I was drunk.

    “Hi are you okay..just wondering if I did anything to change your mind about me as you have been a bit distant since Friday.” He responded with just crazy busy with work hun. Then made another mistake and sent him a message saying “too busy to see me next weekend “no response . (Argh)

    I texted him about his job he replied then I asked him a question no response .

    I didn’t hear for him so 4 days later sent “hey you”No response

    I then totally messed up and sent the following text.
    “Looking over my texts over last few days I realise I was being a little needy and demanding. Sorry about that.I don’t realise how Busy work was. I took it personally. That was wrong. id love to spend some fun one-one time with you again when you have some free time . Let me know xx “again no response.

    Regretted it as soon as I had sent it. I feel I have messed up and won’t hear from his again

    I done totally the opposite of johns advice and asked him what’s up. What did I do wrong and also came across needy and clingy.

    I would love some advice on here as reading other post the advice has been so amazing and inspiring . Would value

    He he did said the last girl he dated was a bunny boiler and that she told him she loved him after 6 weeks. Was always i texting and asking to see him.

    #397372 Reply
    Leane

    I’m sorry this is happening to you. I recall that exact line you texted him from Lauren Gray’s blog.

    Don’t contact him. Let him come to you. If you really mean that you are sorry for acting needy, prove if with your actions. Men believe actions, not words. Right now you are still a mess. You are still needy. If you reach out again, you lose your credibility and it will just annoy him further.

    Read that article from Lauren’s blog again until it sinks in. Do NOT contact him again.

    Do not wait for his return either. He may or may not come back.

    Fill your life with happy things until that desire to reach out fizzles out. Treat this as time to pamper yourself. Focus on YOU. You can do it.

    #397373 Reply
    jane2

    First, what did you say that night when you were drunk? And did you have sex?

    Could be a couple of things:

    If you said you love him or something like that and/or you had sex, he could be pulling back.

    All this texting as you said yourself isn’t helping you. STOP. Breathe. You don’t really know this man as it is only what? 6 weeks? You are infatuated with him and sex can add to that because evidently women bond after sex.

    I know it is hard but you need to go no contact (NC). If he comes back, you didn’t blow it and then keep your cool. Stop apologizing, asking all these questions; just have fun with him on a date. Not on the phone or texting. If he doesn’t come back, well then you know you blew it.

    And either way, move on now. Actually the best thing is to assume it is over. That is the energy you will put out there and who knows, maybe he will be back.

    #397378 Reply
    talllady

    Sadly, what is done is done. He might be gone for good, but he might just be busy. Just leave him alone, in fact, erase his number so you are not tempted to reach out.

    Tons of learnings here:
    A. When a man tells you he is busy, that is not the time to dig in for reasurance
    B. NEVER EVER MULTIPLE TEXT. One text, one responce
    C. When a man is busy, is not time to get cfmation of the next date (a form of reassurance)
    D. These conversations should be by phone, not text

    I actually think the last text was good. You owned your behavior, I just hope it was enough.

    Be extra nice to yourself and remember, the world does not take away things that were supposed to be yours. Hugs!

    #397381 Reply
    Lane

    Hi Bell.

    I honestly don’t know if its repairable but if he doesn’t reach out again I truly hope you learned a lesson from this! First, do not get drunk in the early stages, wait until your in a relationship. Second, reach out ONCE if they don’t reach out again that’s your cue to STOP. Lastly, only apologize ONE, the one thing men hate the most is when a woman over apologizes for something because then you keep REMINDING them of it! They actually get over stuff pretty easy, its when a woman can’t let it go that frustrates them the most.

    Texting is one of the top two reasons dating/relationship never get off the ground, and having sex too early is the other. Keep this mind next time and refrain from the liquor too :-)

    #397385 Reply
    Bella11

    Thanks for your advice. I totally agree with your comments. Hinsight wish I had seen this site before I sent more messages. I was clingy as can’t remember what I said drunk. I didn’t tell him I loved him said I liked him he tole me in the morning. This happened a week ago and as for John advice I waited a week then sent an update asking his advice about something I wanted to buy and best place he got it from. He didn’t reply and then came over really clingy and needy again and sent I know this dating thing with us didn’t work out but think we could be friends as we had a laugh. So I’ve totally messed up and think now it’s totally over. Thought please ? Xx

    #397387 Reply
    Bella11

    Hi jane 2 yes we did have sex. Xx

    #397393 Reply
    Leane

    Bella, please read all the advice given to you until they sink in. As hard as it may be, there’s nothing you can do now but focus on you. This guy may or may not come back.

    You’re wasting plenty of energy and time wondering if you ruined it. I hope you learn from this experience and make sure not to repeat this in the future.

    Also, you can’t be friends with someone you have feelings for. It never works.

    #397395 Reply
    alia

    On to te next my love, you killed this one, but do take some time to recouperate. Take good care of yourself, take a vacation, go see an old friend or a family member. It always keeps me grounded when I reassure my real support network. My sister, my best childhood friends. Your future husband will be that person, but not some guy you’ve seen 5 times, yet you acted like he was. He is not, it’s too new, and it should be too much too soon for you too , if the roles were reversed, right? So chalk it up to invaluable and useful life experience and be more mindful from now on. Love

    #397418 Reply
    Bella11

    Thanks guys I have read you advice and have taken it in. I have deleted him number and will learn from my mistakes next time. The mad thing is he sent more then 1 message if I dint reply things like you alive yiu ok? And one after another. I just need to get used to that guys are allowed to do it we are not. Men r from Mars women from Venus xx

    #397421 Reply
    talllady

    Oh sweetness, my heart breaks reading this. You texted him asking advise and then said what you said? Please learn to take no for an answer….

    There are definitely different rules for men, I am so sorry….

    #397422 Reply
    alia

    If he texted you like that…that’s kind of disrespectful, actually, think about that. Now do you really want to date somebody like that?

    #397424 Reply
    talllady

    oh my, I just saw this again…. Is this timing correct?

    You have date, sleep together and settle for a few others
    He cancels date
    You ask if date still on – he does not respond
    You check in and ask if you are ok
    He responds
    You ask again if you are on for date – He does not respond
    Hey you text – no response
    I was needy text – no response

    A week passes:
    Do you know where to buy something – no response
    Can we just be friends text – no response

    SWEETY, STOP STOP STOP. This is way beyond what is appropriate. Please look at Baggage Reclaim about wanting to turn around a rejection, it will help and next time you will not be so pushy and deal with disappointment.

    #397427 Reply
    Bella11

    He has texted just the once in between. I would normally never do this and reading yiu advice I know I sound like a bunny boiler. It was cause I was so drunk and think I was talking about my ex. If I hadn’t been drunk I would have counted let him doing the chasing which I normaaly do. This is a new thing for me.

    #397430 Reply
    Bella11

    My he texts have been over a week. Still excessive I know xx

    #397431 Reply
    Lane

    Hi Bell.

    The problem here is you SHIFTED the dynamic! Men are the pursuers (hunters) and he was pursuing you hard, you are the PRIZE and as long as you were sitting on your perch watching him carefully to decide if YOU would CHOSE HIM when he either asks you to be his GF or drops the “I love you” bomb. Thing is he hadn’t done that yet, he still was on the fence as to whether he was falling in love, or trying to determine if it was just lust or infatuation. Men actually NEED SPACE to determine if they MISS YOU ENOUGH or not, where if they DON’T then its not love, but one of those temporary feelings.

    You blew it sadly. If you had just held back you would have given him the opportunity to miss you or not—he either would have re-scheduled another date (missed you enough) or faded (not missed you enough), which would have been a CLEAR SIGN of his interest level. This is why you need to be emotionally restrained during the early dating process and use your rational side to ASSESS him as A MAN to make sure he’s even someone you would consider as a potential long-term mate. This is when you should be carefully LISTENING to what he says, and then WATCHING him to determine if he’s “a good man”—he does what he says he will do on a consistent and regular basis in order to determine if he’s honest, trustworthy, loyal, and a man of good character.

    #397433 Reply
    talllady

    Bella,

    Then the learning is stop drinking during dates, so you can maintain your center. It is hard enough during a non drinking night….

    #397439 Reply
    Bella11

    Thanks for the advice, your right it’s the fact he hasn’t replied .m I know his silence means he’s not intrestedits the the being ignored which gets me angry I would rather be told sorry but I’m not intrested. I would have said thanks for being honest. My downfall is I hate being ignored. However I have texted way too much yiu wouldn’t text s friend so much so I should have not texted him so much. Xx

    #397441 Reply
    Bella11

    Thanks tall lady I am looking at the article now.x

    #397447 Reply
    alia

    It’s good that you recognize that being ignored gets you angry. So that’s a good moment to reflect and think: Why? Why being ignored makes you angry and what are the other reactions you could have that would shift those feelings to something like, indifference or happy anticipation. What would have to happen in your personal life and your opinion of yourself in order to react differently?

    #397452 Reply
    Bella11

    I feel it’s rude. I have been in this situation and when guys I have not wished to date further ask me out again. I will be honest Andre have remained friends . I friends with about 90%. I don’t think a thanks but. I thanks it too much to. It just shows men and women are different . I can it plain and simple manners x

    #397453 Reply
    Lane

    Hi Bella,

    The best thing to do when someone’s ignoring you is to ignore them back :-)

    #397456 Reply
    redcurleysue

    I know it is hard for a woman to be ignored. We don’t play in the sandbox that way. We communicate until resolution of one kind or another. Part of the woman code.

    Men are different animals. They ignore what they do not want to deal with.

    I don’t think they understand how hurtful that is to women or they would not do it.

    So, not to worry about the past – just take with you the lessons you learned. You got a lot of great advice already as I read the blog.

    #397461 Reply
    alia

    When someone ignores you they are exercising their power. They are establishing a hierarchy whether they realize it or not. Some people are blissfully unaware and unassuming and others do it with a purpose in mind. This purpose may be to prove something to you. How you react to what’s given to you in any relationship, be it work or love or family will determine how that relationship develops and changes. It is within all of us to react in a such a way that is positive for us, for our well being. Once we master that, we are a force.

    #397474 Reply
    Liz

    Just wanted to say that this has been an extremely useful thread…. particularly your first message Lane… the shifting of the dynamic thing makes a lot of sense! Also the way you said, it’s two things, he either missed you enough or didn’t. Makes it so simple. Bella11, sorry you are going through this, I am dealing with a similar situation… All going well and then boom, no contact. Guess the “honeymoon” phase ended pretty quickly for these guys. I have refrained from contacting him (thankfully, although it has been a struggle) but this just reinforced that the desire for closure/a response/etc just comes across badly to men. We really are different creatures entirely…

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