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  • #885805 Reply
    Dana

    I’m seeing a man, he has a child. He told me his kid will always come first. I completely agree and accept this. I wouldn’t expect to come between that. However, he literally has no time at all for me. He has his child almost 99% of the time. He has his child on the days his ex works. He goes by her rota. This week he has the child for the full week and the weekend.

    I asked him if he could maybe make one day out of the week to see me. He said no. Then said “am I not allowed to see my kid”, as if I was trying to stop him. I’m completely not, all I’m trying to do is to get to see him.

    He can’t see me for two full weeks. I can’t help feeling very neglected and like I don’t even matter in the slightest. Somehow I feel like the bad person for wanting a little bit of time with him to develop a relationship.

    #885810 Reply
    Raven

    You’re in this situation because …?

    #885812 Reply
    Dana

    I liked him and thought maybe I’d get to see him even if it was a few hours once a week. I didn’t realise I’d wait weeks to see him.

    I’m not sure if it’s me being unreasonable. I don’t understand how other people with children manage to date if they wait 2 weeks for a coffee date. Seems so so long. How does anyone even progress a relationship at that rate?

    FYI – I have no kids and I’ve never dated a man with a kid. I knew I’d hardly see him. I just can’t understand how others make this work with little to no dates?

    #885818 Reply
    Elvira

    Hi Dana

    I have to say that comment was very rude of him especially if you’re being understanding. I would suggest you leave this relationship and allow him to focus on his child. I am a single mom and I understand the importance of taking care of young children, however depending on the situation that doesn’t mean you can’t make time for someone you care about or want to get to know more.

    There are difficult/stressful situations where a parent may feel their child needs more attention or care especially if the divorce was recent and the children are affected. So there are many underlying factors that may affect how much time someone commits to their new partner.

    His response was harsh if he has no time for you then he should tell you that in a calm manner. It’s almost as if he is frustrated that you are asking.

    I feel you need to separate yourself from this situation and focus on finding someone more aligned with your current needs.

    #885819 Reply
    Elvira

    And you are right men/women with children will make the time for someone they want to get to know more or care about. I have dated many men with children and stuff does come up and you have to be considerate to that. I just don’t like his response it was manipulative as if you were asking him to abandon his child. So unless you have made this an issue from the get go and he is frustrated with you, you have your answer…he has and makes no time for you!

    #885846 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    100% what Elvira said. I’m a single parent and so is my bf so I know what it’s like to juggle parenting and dating. It sounds like this man honestly does not have time to date right now, and should just focus on his child. There’s nothing wrong with doing that, but he should be honest with you about it and not make you feel badly for wanting to see him. Elvira put it perfectly, you and this man’s needs are not aligned. It would be best for you to move on and date a guy who is willing to make the effort to spend time with you.

    #885849 Reply
    Raven

    Yup, move on…

    #885867 Reply
    Dana

    Hi guys

    Yeah it was completely unprovoked and his comment really did hit a nerve because I had never, ever once said to him not to see his child. So for him to accuse me of that, did upset me.

    My sister seen the mails he sent and told me it was narcissistic.

    FYI, his separation from the child’s mum was 6 years ago. And I did raise the point to him that he’s not ready for committing to someone and shouldn’t be dating. He called me out and said that’s not true and I’m being unreasonable because I could just wait the 2 weeks to see him, he even made the point in saying he thinks I am the one? Yet genuinely cannot see me.

    I do agree however, or needs are misaligned. He’s never had a girlfriend in 6 years since his break up. Don’t think I have any luck of changing that.

    #885957 Reply
    Ewa

    6 years and never had a gf?
    I am not saying it is right or wrong but at the same time it is good that he wants to spend a lot of time with his child. You know you will never be his priority.
    He has no time for you but when you bring it up he made it look like you were the one at fault because you don’t understand when you clearly do.
    I wouldn’t bother with him, it is possible that he doesn’t see you as a girlfriend material or he is just not interested in dating anyone. Either way fine someone who has time for you

    #885974 Reply
    Zoe

    Thats why I dont date men with kids

    #885997 Reply
    Erin

    He sounds like he has no time for you. I’ve dated a man with a kid before and he made time. There were other challenges of course here and there but he came through.

    Just drop him and see other men, preferably with no kids this time or if they do, they know how to make time for you.

    It’s always going to be like this between you and him so I say, cut him loose.

    #886101 Reply
    Lisa

    I did online dating for years and I learned through experience that it’s a red flag when someone tells you right off the bat they’re putting their kid first. It’s like someone telling you they’re honest…truly honest people are just like that and assume everyone is so it’s not something you’d tell people. In a nutshell, what the man is telling you is he won’t make time for you and will blame it on his kid. Usually this is someone dating multiple women. Never is it someone looking for a long-term committed relationship.

    #886124 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    That’s such a good point, Lisa! Not to mention putting your child first does not mean you can’t cultivate healthy adult relationships. They are not mutually exclusive. You can do both. You SHOULD do both. A parent needs to have adult friendships, outside interests, and yes, even romantic relationships. It’s better for your mental and emotional health, and you feel better if you have those outlets. In turn, being happier and healthier makes you a better parent.

    So it IS putting your kids first to make some time for yourself. It’s also modeling self-care, healthy relationships, and healthy behavior for your child.

    Anyway, I agree with Lisa that it’s a cop-out for him to put it out there like that right from the beginning. Sounds like he was pre-emptively telling you he would not have time for you, but blaming it on his child.

    If he’s been separated 6 years, it’s not like his child is an infant– presumably the child is at least 7, 8, 9 years old? That’s definitely old enough to find time to date. If it were a tiny infant or even a toddler, I could see it being more of a struggle. But with a somewhat older child it’s much easier to date.

    #886125 Reply
    Dana

    Yeah I am starting to think there’s a huge possibility he’s seeing others too or not really wanting to commit but telling me sweet nothings.

    I wasn’t sure if this was me at fault because I have no kids and I was coming in here to see if mother’s/fathers agreed I was being silly and two weeks for a coffee date is the norm. As I’m new to this I really wasn’t sure.

    What a wonderful volume of responses which just reaffirmed my suspicions, he’s just not that into me/ready for a relationship.

    I guess I have to let him be him and me, do me.

    Hopefully next partner I meet/like will be able to show up for me at least a day a week.

    #886127 Reply
    Dana

    Liz his child is 9 years old.

    He’s been apart from the gf of the child for 6 years.

    During that time he’s only ever had casual friends with benefits and as he told me he never met anyone “good enough to introduce to his child”

    He proceeded to tell me he did see something serious happening with us, but obviously things would progress slowly with us until he was ready to introduce the two of us. Just seemed like in the meantime I have to wait long times for him to meet me.

    #886142 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    I’m a little confused, have you met this guy in person?
    How long have you been seeing him? How often do you actually see each other in person?

    It’s bizarre that he’s making comments about you being “the one” and having something serious with you, when he doesn’t even have time for a coffee date.

    My bf had been divorced 3 years when we met. In that time period he had only dated casually. I was his first serious relationship post-divorce (we’re together about 3.5 years now). He did not introduce any of the women he dated to his child, I was the first one. And we took awhile to get to the point where we met each others’ kids- close to a year. We did not rush into it.

    My point in sharing that is– I think it’s wise for a guy to not introduce his child to every casual woman he dates. At this point, in the early stages of dating, it’s not even something you need to discuss.

    Honestly something seems a bit “off” about this guy to me, like he’s a future faker. Why is he even talking about introducing his child to you when he can’t even find time to meet you for coffee? That shouldn’t even be on the table at this point. You meet first, date, spend time together, build a relationship– THEN you start thinking about whether to introduce the kid(s). This guy has it totally backwards.

    #886153 Reply
    Marie

    I recently dated a man with two kids who was divorced. It was so hard for him to try and find time to carve out for us to go out to dinners or to even hangout. At the beginning he made the time to see me. Towards the end i realized he didnt want anything more than a sexual relationship with me so i cut it all off. He would go weeks almost a month without seeing me in person because he always had his kids because both he and his ex have demanding jobs. Looking back i should have realized sooner that we didnt have a future together. Dating someone with kids can be difficult but if its with the right person it can be rewarding! I would honestly tell you to move on or date others until he shows you that he wants to try and be with you.

    #886154 Reply
    Dana

    So we have met, and we met through work.

    Due to covid we’ve been working from home the past year. We started as friends (I had no idea he liked me, but apparently he liked me as soon as I started the business). He and I spoke loads over the pandemic. With him frequently popping up on Facebook to say hello. Eventually his mails became more frequent and one day he plucked up the courage to tell me he liked me. I didn’t feel the same. So I opted to stay friends. During the year of staying friends we spoke daily on WhatsApp. After a full year of speaking, daily, I realised despite not being attracted to him, I actually liked him. He may not seem it, but he does have a nice personality. So I told him how I felt, and he confessed he liked me also still so we would casually take it slow and see how we go.

    Fast forwards 2 months (which is how long it’s been since we admitted to trying to date), I’ve had one date & im realising it’s difficult to lock down a day/time to meet.

    I get why he won’t want to introduce me to his child and I was more than happy to wait. If anything I’d prefer to wait so that I can also see if this is the right fit for me before adding a child into the situation so it suited me also. However, I can’t help feel like he has absolutely no time for me at all.

    He told me early on that as soon as I started in the company the moment he seen me his heart froze and it took him a full year to actually tell me. On top of saying that he really likes me, hasn’t felt this way for a girl since his baby’s mum before. All of which I’m a little confused by as we’ve only met once outside of work.

    In regards to work, I’m office based and he’s field based so we wouldn’t really see each other much at work except things like Christmas parties and if there’s a big company meeting. So dating at work isn’t much of an issue for me since I never see him much.

    All seems to be hard to read between the lines with him but I don’t think he likes me as much as he proclaims else he would make time to see me and get to know me more, outwith what appears to be a weird online WhatsApp connection.

    #886165 Reply
    Maddie

    If a guy is being inconsistent and words and actions don’t line up, listen to the “worst” of the two. Some people say actions speak louder than words, but I’ve always found that any lack of alignment means emotionally unavailable and leave (a guy who says you’re not dating but acts like you are is as bad as a guy who says he’s into you but never shows up).

    He sounds like he’s into a fantasy version of you and dating, and he may not even be aware of his lack of availability because he wants to believe he’s ready to date even if he’s not. Even though he probably does believe he likes you. Do you know why things broke down with his ex? I have a feeling his distance issues and lack of ability to commit played a part and is who he is, and that’s why you feel neglected, not because he’s prioritizing his kid (as he should be, though he shouldn’t ever be making you feel guilty about it).

    Your instincts and suspicions that he’s not ready sound right. I don’t think that’s because of the childcare responsibilities.

    #886199 Reply
    Dana

    Hi Maddie,
    He told me that him and his ex (they dated for 7 years) ended because they kept arguing all the time over silly things. Apparently it was a mutual ending. He’s never really disclosed any more information than that. He doesn’t really say anything bad on the mother/their relationship, asides from she’s a good mum and he will always care for her as she’s the mother of his child. I think that’s normal? Who knows.

    I did ask wheat they argued over and got the reply “everything”.

    He did also tell me once she threw something at him one time when he said he was going out with his pals? So perhaps that’s an indication that he was distant with her also? Not too sure however. I tend not to pry so much as it’s his past and I gathered if he wanted to disclose more he would.

    #886208 Reply
    mama

    It sounds like he is more into having you as a virtual companion/pen pal to make his single parenting less lonely. And that sweet talk is just talk. Lots of words without meaning.

    There’s a limit to being nice and understanding. His lack of time for you didn’t seem right to you and you were right to question it.

    Stop being so conveniently available, stop reaching out or responding all the time. Slowly back away from this one and let him know you’re better off as friends and good luck to him. It’s probably better that way anyway, considering you work for the same company.

    #886213 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    I agree with mama and Maddie totally. Look at his actions, not his words. It doesn’t sound like this guy is ready to date– he obviously likes the idea and the fantasy of it, but he is not willing/able to put it into practice. And he’s using his child as an excuse.

    A man who wants to see you will find a way, period. It’s great that he helps his ex with child care while she works, but I’m sure she does not work 24/7– if he wanted to date, he could arrange for his ex to have their child some evenings, even just for a few hours, so that he can go out for a meal or coffee or whatever. He would make it happen.

    #886218 Reply
    Dana

    You girls are all so correct here. Thank you for all the responses and making me realise, what I deep down already knew.

    I’ve told him that it won’t work for me and we’ve decided to leave it as that. He needs to work on his parental duties and I need to invest time in healthier connections that are befitting to me.

    I’m so glad I posted for advice and I’m overwhelmed with all the responses! Thank you to everyone who helped me with this. X

    #886299 Reply
    Rox

    Hi Dana,
    Kids can’t legally be home alone until they are 12, maybe 11 if they are mature. If he and his son are home due to the pandemic, well the dad can’t really go out. Otherwise, lunch dates look like a possibility because the child would be at school. Most kids that age go to bed early, say 9pm. Why not suggest more night phone calls instead of messaging.
    Or just wait the 2 weeks out while he has custody of his child, because it should mean he is free after those 2 weeks without child at least for a week when he is with his mom. All this assuming you have feelings for him.

    #886314 Reply
    Dana

    Hi rox, there’s absolutely no way he would ever go a full week without seeing his child. He sees his child 95% of the time always, the mum hardly has the child.

    He will be seeing the child the full two weeks, then he has a weekend free but the full week thereafter.

    I don’t know how the mum accepts that, unless he is making this up because why would a mother never want to see her child? Maybe he’s lying on the fact he’s always been other his child to avoid seeing me? Who knows.

    I’m just letting him be free, as we aren’t getting our needs met by staying together. I need more time and he can’t give that. It is what it is.

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