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Deal with what’s real, not what ‘should’ be.
A lot of guys won’t be upfront because sometimes women take it badly. Like angry or start crying — that kind of badly— so guys try to give excuses then fade away quietly…
LiaWhy is everyone picking the pieces they want to from Anons comments and missing the point of what she’s saying.
Men decide they are not interested but they STILL do the whole ‘Yeh let’s go out on Friday!’ thing. THEN ghost. Or they are back in contact when Friday has passed saying they were busy/sick/had to go out of town and you never end up seeing him again.
Why draw it out? Stringing women along and giving false hope when you know you’re not interested. That’s not quite the same as subtly hinting you’re not interested by not being in contact after a date. And this happens A LOT especially with OLD.
anonWell, I seem to do alright. Successful professionally with no burned bridges; I have not been single long (had a 20+ year relationship). Anytime I’ve ever communicated to a man that I wasn’t interested in dating anymore, they thanked me for being honest, and I return the favor to the one’s who have told me they aren’t interested.
Maybe we need a new dating site and you can select between “No message is a message”, “Clear Verbal Communication” and “I actually love the vague fade out, bring it on”. (I’ve heard just as many men complain about women who ghost or use vague fading).
KhadijaLia, keep in mind you have a say so about this too.
If a guy lessens his communication, hasn’t followed up with another date, or you just feel things are off you can move on.
I think a lot of women are getting stuck because they are waiting for the guy to send them a text saying no thanks, they want to move on.
A lot of these guys are leaving the door open because they are dating other women and will go back and forth. I’ve seen a post like this time and time ago where the guy comes sniffing around after weeks of basically no contact. Then the woman asks us if she should give him another chance.
Over the years I made dating as simple as possible. I only gave time and attention to men who asked me out consistently. If he started to flake or become “distant” in the beginning stages I was on to the next.
All this back and forth about what a man should be doing and why he didn’t do that is wasting your precious time. You could be out meeting a guy who is upfront and honest with his intentions. They do exist.
AnnAnon, the reality is some men are still kids so they can’t understand the simple logic that being a jerk is not only wasting your time but it also makes him look bad. Only real men can do direct rejection and immature guys prefer ghosting.
LaneAnon, your the perfect exam of WHY men have to do what they do to get away from. Woman who can’t let go of something that hasn’t even materialized!!!!
A man doesn’t OWE a woman a date or a relationship!!! Just because he asks a lady out that he’s initially attracted to doesn’t’t mean he needs to keep asking her out if he changes his mind about her. If you or others can’t handle a man not asking you out again then DON’T DATE…problem solved.
KimThe POINT of this post:
“It’s not that I can’t take a hint but I don’t like BS.” ~Lia“Hey, I’m not into this chick, and I need her to f off, I know, I’ll ask her out!” ~anon
“This has nothing to do with overly invested women and everything to do with lazy / lacking / pointless communication.” ~anon
NOT the point of this post:
“Stupid invested woman should take the hint when men communicate unclearly.”~anonHow ironic those of you blathering about taking a hint can’t get the hint when something is stated CLEARLY.
anonLANE,
I’m going to say this one more time.I have NO PROBLEM if a man says “hey, I don’t want to go out again”. I’m not going to follow up. Or even ask why. I’ll probably reply with “OK, well, take care, I enjoyed meeting you.”
My problem is when men say “I was sick, then got busy, but I can’t wait to see you again. How about this weekend?”. This is what frustrates so many women. Is he actually busy/sick/phone issues but wants to see me again, like he is saying. Or is he actually not interested, and just saying that to be polite. Because his words say “wow, I got busy, I’m sorry, and I will work on making time to see you again”. Reasonably, if you like someone, you are happy to hear this and stick around.
I have no desire to date someone with no interest in dating me. At all. I don’t feel like any man “owes” me a date- at all. I just don’t understand the thinking behind guys who aren’t interested stating that “something came up” but “they want to see me again” and “here is when I can see you again”.
StaceyThe job interview analogy used is a good comparison but not completely accurate. It would be more accurate to play out like this-
Employer: “You seem like a good fit for the job. Would you like to come in Monday at 9 for a trial run? You can see how you like working here and we can see how you work.”
You: “Okay. Sounds good. See you Monday at 9.”
Monday at 7:30am
Employer text: “Sorry. Have to cancel today. Some equipment broke. We should be up and running by next week. We were really looking forward to you coming in today. Would you be willing to come in next week?”You: Ok. That’s too bad. Yes on next week.”
Tuesday
Employer message: “Hi. Just checking in. The equipment is being repaired. Monday looks good. Will let you know specifics soon.”You: “Good to hear. Monday looks good for me too.”
Thursday:
You: “Hello. How is the equipment repair coming along?”Employer: “Pretty good. Looking forward to having you come in. Monday looks good still. Will confirm tomorrow. ”
Friday (aka tomorrow and ever after): crickets and your texts are blocked.
You aren’t stupid for waiting for Monday. You are still looking for other jobs. You knew this was on a trial condition. You did get jerked around for NO GOOD REASON when it all could have been easily avoided. That is life and it will happen but those of you defending this behavior must have screws loose. There is a difference between accepting it is an unpleasant reality and defending it as if it is justifiable. What is wrong with you if you can’t see that?
LexyLia – I understand completely. It is extremely frustrating and basically happened to me recently as well. But I was in a exclusive, committed relationship with this guy for about 6 weeks! He got the flu (from me lol), then had surgery and experienced a bad reaction/recovery which left his whole face swollen. He sent me pics, so I knew he was telling the truth about the surgery and reaction. Communication faded and every time I reached out to check on him, I got “I’m depressed” “this is really affecting me” and “I’m being very reclusive” and “you don’t deserve this”. He wouldn’t answer where he was and if someone was helping him other than “I’m being taken care of”. He stopped responding after a couple of weeks. I took my hint and moved on. I don’t care how bad you feel, if you can travel and go to appointments, you can send a text to respond to someone who is genuinely concerned for you. But he CHOSE not to. So I chose not to invest anymore time. It sucked, but I’m sure it’s for the best. I still wonder how he is and hope he is ok, but I’ll probably never know…
LiaSorry that happened to you Lexy. Perhaps he went to an ex or something. Forget him and clear the way for someone who will positively receive your concern for them.
LexyLia – yes, I completely suspect that he went back to an ex, or there was someone else all along. There were some red flags before that that I was keeping my eye on. It’s been 3 weeks since I’ve heard from him. I don’t chase, I replace. I’ve already started meeting other men and have gone out on a couple of dates. That was a disappointing experience, but I’ve chalked it up as another lesson learned!
LiaWe just keep on learning those lessons hey :D
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