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  • #433880 Reply
    Sandi

    Wow! great responses here and this topic seems to have definitely touched a nerve. I did say that I anticipate he will be MIA for much of the month because when he gets busy he is not good at multi tasking. But I have to side with Janet… it is not acceptable for a grown man to go missing when he KNOWS (yes we have talked about this before) I find it unsettling. The level of laziness that women are encouraged to accept from men these days is outrageous. Step up, be a man and take care of your woman.
    The other thing on my mind is, I know his silence in the month ahead is going to build resentment for me and then when he returns he will no doubt want sex… no way!! what do I do?

    #433881 Reply
    Stefanie

    You’ve got two choices Sandi – speak with him about it in a productive way and work it out to both of your satisfaction or break up with him because he isn’t right for you. There is no right or wrong answer, it’s about what you want and how you want to live your life.

    #433889 Reply
    Lane

    Wow Sandi.

    From my observation this appears to be a ONE-SIDED relationship, all about what “you” want and need without taking into consideration what HE WANTS or NEEDS. If he doesn’t want or need to remain in constant contact, and you do, then you are not compatible in a very big way and this relationship will eventually dissolve.

    Step back for one moment and put his needs before your own. Do you honestly believe spending time with his children and doing the job he’s being paid to perform is far less important than your need to be in constant contact? You are essentially telling him, and what he’s hearing is” “I don’t care what’s going on in your life, I should always be your top priority and if you can’t make me your top priority all the time then don’t ask for sex!”

    You do not understand the basic needs of a man. In a relationship, a man wants a woman who SUPPORTS HIS PURPOSE—its the natural order of male and female relationships here on planet earth. A man’s central “purpose” is to provide (bring home the bacon) and protect (keep his family safe from harm). Its NOT a man’s job to coddle and comfort you, that’s what WOMEN DO (nature’s nurturers), so if you need constant coddling and comfort then you need to be with a woman, but if you want a good provider and protector then be with a man.

    MEN are from MARS and Women are from Venus…we really are! I see a break up on the horizon.

    #433890 Reply
    jacqueline

    Well in point of few I would say if he disappears 1 whole months you don’t need to accept this of course. But also if its a healthy and loving relationship he wouldn’t do it and you wouldn’t freak out about some days or even 1 week. I agree at some point with lane. There is no need to pushing and love should come from a selfishless place. I have been on a short bussiness trip 2 weeks ago and my bf said to me its totally okay ficus on work and just text him to say I’m save. As a protecter he was of course worried about my baggage and so on. But when my bf goes traveling I also wouldn’t mind if he would not contact me for some days or a week. Mans just like this, they usually very focused on things they do. Work or hobbies or whatever. But if he really cares and love you, he would think about you before he is going to sleep and wake up in the morning and also he would let you know that. So far to my own few.When he is not contacting and you come from a selfishless emphaty place. You would assume that he is doing his best for his job or having alot off fun time. What also should make you feel proud and happy for him.

    #433912 Reply
    soni

    I don’t think I was attacking anyone. nor using any kind of foul or rude language. just putting across my viewpoint the way others are. I think its ok for all posters to share their views based on their culture, age and experience. and its ok to differ. no1 is the expert here and neither am I.. its up to the initiator of the thread to accept or reject views. the admin can block me from his website if he feels I am being abusive. shrug.

    #433921 Reply
    Lane

    No worries Soni. I have thick skin and don’t take things personally. I will address each personally when they twist my words to suit their own agenda, but I do not engage in the “mean girls club” mentality that this forum breeds.

    I posted a different OPINION and if others want to disagree and post a different one, that’s fine. I’m open to a civil debate “attack the message, not the messenger” but not bullying, deriding, or flaming another as its not productive or helpful to the OP as its ultimately up to them to decide which one works best for them

    Sometimes they will adopt one (usually those who conform to their personal desires as its human nature) and then come back begging for additional help because it backfired. This is how we ALL LEARN, trying different ways and methods to see which one works best for BOTH parties involved, as there are TWO PEOPLE in a relationship—they aren’t like Burger King, can’t always have it your way.

    #433928 Reply
    Aisha

    Seriously, this is way too much thinking …. after one year and being exclusive

    I would just CALL HIM Period.

    or send a text like *Anybody Home? .. <put Angry face icon>

    ..
    I am all for being concentrating on yourself and all, but please it does not mean you cant ever ask him ‘what is going on baby’

    #433932 Reply
    Aisha

    and for the month that he will be away…

    hmmm, ideally he should contact, periodically; if not, maybe you can tell him in a SERIOUS way (see if it means something to you and to that level, it will be good that he understand the gravity of it) ”listen, I hope you are not going to keep radio silence, I hate it” … and let it linger maybe ..dont pursue the topic more than this

    .. let his actions in coming month be the better reflection of how much he is involved/ wants to keep you in a peaceful frame of mind. will give you time to rationally appreciate where you two stand.

    #433943 Reply
    Amy S

    hi. Im kind of in the middle of the split opinions on this. I think you can have a great solid relationship that doesn’t involve a load of texting or calling in between dates and also you can have a not so good relationship with lots of communication. We are all different and one mans meat is another mans poison. Personally I think if you care about someone you will make the effort to make them happy and if it means a bit of communication on a regular basis, im not saying daily basis then that’s what you do. If you think you need a bit of communication from a guy to check in and have some chat then that doesn’t make you needy or demanding. Some guys are better at it than others but after a year in an exclusive relationship the communication should be carefree ie if you don’t hear from the guy soon enough then its ok to reach out to him. Personally if hes taking a month off for work and stuff there should at least be a goodbye date before this commences. I think we do sometimes make it too easy for men to give crumbs by trying to be cool and not seem needy but this can cause problesm too as not sayng what you want or expect from a relationship can cause bad feelings and resentment to build up. Again its each to their own and if you want a decent amount of communication then it has to be stated in a way that encourages this. x

    #433995 Reply
    Sandi

    Amy S, thank you… I am split on this too. I posted on this forum bc I wanted opinions.. and I got ’em! I take away something all responses.

    Lane, I so appreciate your strength and insight and that’s want I wanted and meant when I asked to keep things in perspective. I do believe you are the exception however.. women want their man to check in periodically.. it shows you matter. I don’t think there’s a hint of neediness in that, Being a loving partner and being in a relationship means that you consider your partner’s feelings when you act. I, like many women, can get wrapped up in my own head and it distorts things… I came here to break away from that. I obviously have not revealed all of the nuances and details of our relationship in my short posts.. I do support this man and his wants and needs.. I love him very much. I realize that he is going thru a busy patch.. but show a sister some love!! I’m venting!

    #434013 Reply
    Lane

    Hi Sandi.

    I’m not saying its wrong for both the man and woman to “check in” here and there but the problem is it can be relied upon too much and that’s not good either. A man’s TIME is the most precious gift he gives to his woman so if a man is calling but not scheduling time to see you then I would be far more concerned with than then whether he calls or not.

    A big part of relationships is negotiating each others wants and needs. Talk and actively listen so you understand each others wants/needs (with in reason) and then find a solution you can both agree upon. When a man is traveling like he is, you have to understand there will be long flights, sleep lags, dealing with nationals, logistics and then doing the work he’s being paid to do. I’m sure he’ll check in here and there but you have to support him by accepting that his job will be his primary focus as it should be because he needs to pay his bills and take you out to dinner when he gets back :-)

    #434014 Reply
    Sensy

    Lane, there is a big difference between a marriage and a relationship. A guy in a dating relationship should be reaching out to make a woman feel loved and important to him. He is basically showing her she is not important to him by being too distant. I didn’t see my ex much. He worked dog watch as a cop and many hobbies, but we were husband and wife and in a committed marriage so much different than a dating relationship that I have been in subsequent to marriage.

    #434017 Reply
    Janet

    Soni doesn’t want ‘constant’ contact Lane, she never said that. She doesn’t want ‘no’ contact for the whole month. That’s not needy, nor selfish, that is normal.
    Oh, and in reply to your comment on “days of yore” Lane, those are the years you are always spouting about before mobile phones, multimedia/social networking and many other modern forms of communication. There is absolutely no reason for him not to be in some contact for that length of time – none. People who profess to love each other do not do this, male or female and its absurd to stress that they do. And also – not all men are the same, as not all women are. Its complete poppycock to suggest one size fits all – lunacy! Lol

    #434035 Reply
    Lane

    Hi Sensy.

    I’m sorry, but if your in a relationship then you need to work these kinks out BEFORE you get married! If they are having these issues now, do you think they will magically disappear if they say “I do?” The relationship period is when you NEGOTIATE this stuff out, not after you commit which is why so many couples fail today. There is NO REASON why a man should be at a woman’s beck and call just to placate her insecurities. If a woman is CONFIDENT in a man’s love for her, then she would be totally cool with him “checking in” when HE has the time/ability to do so. What about him and his needs? Sorry, but they count and matter too.

    Janet, you are being plain rude so I ask you stop addressing me. Thank you.

    #434037 Reply
    soni

    I think there are 2 schools of thought here. one which seems to be quite against technology as a communicative tool in relationships and one which is pro but at the same time in a constructive way.. janet I get u completely..

    No one is talking about no personal or face to face meetings. no1’s advocating that. that’s always the best but when that’s not convenient on a regular basis, what does one do to interact on a reg basis? isn’t it simple in today’s world with so many choices available in which u can stay in touch??

    Coming down to this particular thread, I guess what we are saying to sandi is there is really no need or requirement for someone to be in “zero contact” simply because he’s travelling to other countries and that too for a month. I don’t think we ever talked about constant touch, every day texts and calls. just that there is no need to fall off the face of the earth for a month just because he’s travelling. that’s all. but now taking into consideration some peoples averseness to interacting using latest interactive communicative tools, he can be excused for asking for a month off if he’s also of a similar mind set.

    ANd Lane I know u can argue your view points very well. u don’t need advocates to do that for u or defend u.. u didn’t take offence at my views and neither did I at yours. v just think differently on certain stuff :). love and peace to all.

    #434044 Reply
    Janet

    I’m sure l wasn’t being rude? Sorry if that is how you (now daren’t say your name lol) see it. These are opinions – and therefore no ‘right or wrong ‘ nonetheless, if you address me in a comment l feel it is only mannerly to reply to that.
    All the dating and advice books in the world cannot give answers/solutions to every problem, concern or issue; and they are ‘advice’ books, not Law.
    I’m sure the OP will work it out, from your comments you sound very grounded and transparent. Best of luck x

    #434050 Reply
    Lane

    Soni, you are twisting my words around. I did not say I was “against” technology, I’m just against how ITS USED today. Its relied on far too much; to the point humans are no longer communicating or interacting with each other in a way that improves relationships, but now degrades them (as RCS pointed out). Technology cannot replace human “verbal” and “non verbal” cues that one must rely on to properly encode and decode a message, thought, feeling, emotion, etc., which is why texting has become one of the TOP TWO reasons men and women struggle the most in dating and relationships today.

    Technology has become A BARRIER to one-on-one human communication, and as Dauny so eloquently stated, NEARNESS (togetherness) is the only way you can truly assess how someone “feels” about you, and if your CONFIDENT in their feelings/love for you, then you wouldn’t NEED to rely on an external device. If you NEED IT, then something is missing or you don’t feel safe and secure in the relationship and are looking for external ways to feel validated. If I feel safe and confident in a man’s love, then I don’t need to rely on external sources, such as a phone, for him to prove or validate it for me—I feel it when I’m WITH HIM and that’s what truly matters to me.

    I never said it can’t be used, but that its OVERUSED…huge difference. Hearing from and calling your man when your apart for an extended period of time to bridge “the gap” (make sure your both OK and brief synopsis of your activities/upcoming plans) is fine, but it shouldn’t REPLACE communication that is better discussed when your together again or you will have nothing to talk about :-P

    #434066 Reply
    Ivy

    What is the deffinition of going missing? If you reached out to him cause he was insanely busy and he replied that isn’t going missing.

    “Why is it that we must accept men back after they go dark for weeks and act like we are fine??”

    See the problem I see is that you set up this whole negative scenario and the month didn’t even begin. To my understanding you never said this guy ever went MIA with you for weeks, but maybe I missed something. So I am thinking this is mostly in your head, mostly negative thinking.

    What if you had a mindset that said I know he cares about me, I know he’s going to be crazy busy and I know I will talk with him. In fact, I am going to let him be busy and just be happy when he does contact me and I will contact him and keep him posted on how things are and send a sweet little I miss you note. That is called a secure loving relationship.

    He just left and you got out your pistal and with negative expectations and you are ready to fire off at his first misstep. He makes one false move, too many days of no contact and he’s in the war zone. This isn’t inviting love, it’s pushing it away.

    Your thoughts are negative, your views are limited. If he knew what you were thinking he would go MIA. Thoughts are funny creatures, loving thoughts invite love, negative thoughts invite negativity, negativy thoughts also chase love away.

    #434071 Reply
    Gemini615

    Agree with Ivy and Lane on this, although I understand all points.

    It really is how you think about the situation, and as Ivy pointed out, going into it with negative thinking will only increase your anxiety and you’ll be paying too much attention to all the times you DON’T hear from him instead of being happy for when you actually do.

    I don’t see what the issue is here, to be honest. Other than this month he will be gone, you said yourself that he is usually in regular contact with you, so it isn’t like you have a history in your relationship of him being shit at texting and calling.

    As Lane has pointed out and provided in her examples, you should be able to hold your own for a while when he is away on business. Men are work and action oriented people. Work comes first, always. When they have too much on their plate, usually their personal relationships are the first thing to suffer. That is how ALL men are, so if you have a problem with that, then perhaps you shouldn’t date men period.

    You have to get out of the mindset of “needing” him to contact you ‘x’ amount of times for you to be ok. That is the definition of neediness; when you NEED someone to act in a certain way for you to be ok and to calm your anxiety, then you are being needy. If you are confident in your relationship and trusting of your man, he should be able to be gone for days, weeks, or even a month to handle business, and you should know that your relationship will be ok and when he returns all will be right between you two.

    This is not to say that it is ok if he has a pattern of disappearing for weeks at a time for non work related reasons; that is just poor treatment and shouldn’t be tolerated. But in this instance, give him a pass, be very understanding, and don’t hound him about how often he reaches out. If you sit tight and let him take care of business, he will come back being exceedingly grateful and he will repay you for it tenfold.

    He is probably expecting you to not be understanding. Do you want to act the way he expects you to, or do you want to leave him pleasantly surprised that you aren’t bothered?

    #434104 Reply
    Lola

    I’ve really been enjoying this thread and the back and forth. I’ve had to work this issue out myself. My BF is not a big talker, he is a classic introvert, who expends most of his social energy at work. When he goes home, he like to relax and be quiet. I’m totally the opposite- being alone is not great me time, I find it exhausting. After work, I love to chat with my kids, or go to happy hour, or yoga, or even the grocery store (!). Dont’ judge that too much! The funny thing is that it’s my BF’s calm and peacefulness which attract and keep me with him. He loves my energy and fun outlook. Where we’ve had to compromise is on communication. I let him know (lovingly) how much his calls mean to me. I absolutely look forward to hearing his lovely voice at night. I have all kinds of funny things to tell him, or I’m sure to watch the news, sports, etc so things don’t get all “so what else did you do today”. We make each other laugh and just wind down. That’s all the communication we have all day- unless something pops up. I WISH I got random “thinking about you” texts during the day, but that’s not him. I’m happy that he calls me at night. This is a man who doesn’t call his mom or friends or adult kids unless he needs to, so I understand and appreciate the phone calls that are so out of his comfort zone. :)
    My advice is to decide whether all his other qualities make up for his out of contact tendencies. If so, take that month to love on YOU, and be a little mysterious….

    #434207 Reply
    Sensy

    Lane, what I was meaning is a guy can’t take a girl for granted in a dating relationship. The way hers is going they may as well part because it sounds like he could care less.

    #434208 Reply
    Bec

    Hello, I just want to drop my 2 cents in.
    What k think this situation comes down to is knowing yourself enough to know what bothers you and what doesn’t. If you require the man your with to check in a few times a week or even once a week who is anyone to tell you that’s wrong? That’s how you feel and it may be driven by insecurities or just the simple fact of that’s just what you require when in a relationship and that’s for you to figure out.. No judgement everyone’s different.

    In saying that we cannot generalise
    because every man you meet will be different too. He may or may not be into texting that too is something you would know.
    If your bothered by this I suggest talking about it in a polite manner and just explain what it is you’d like. That is not being needy it’s being true to yourself. Either he will try accomodate what you want or he won’t. That’s when you make the decision to leave or learn to live with the fact you won’t really hear from him while he’s away and learn to not let it bother you.
    Whatever you decide I think work out what you want, why you want it and what your going to do about it.
    Hope this helps

    #524755 Reply
    Sandi

    UPDATE!
    I just found this thread that I started last year and I’m kind of amazed to look back at my mind set. I’ve really come a long way! Much of it is thanks to the women on this forum.
    We did make it through the month of June but last summer was rocky. He was stressed at work, with his kids and more. I never thought that I should come first (and knew that wasn’t a reality at any point) but I felt like I was coming pretty close to last and it didn’t feel good.
    Things got worse when he just shut down on me because of things going on in his life. i told him that I can’t accept that and, things got a bit heated . I thought about it for a few days and wrote to him saying I thought it was time we parted ways, it just wasn’t enjoyable and we seemed to want different things. He said please take some time to think about it but if that’s is what I really want them so be it.
    In the following weeks, he continued to contact me for one reason or another. I had completely considered it over and was at peace, even relieved.
    A few weeks later he asked to meet for coffee and I went. He said he loved me and didn’t want to lose me. I told him I loved him too but I was not willing to try again with him without him understanding what I want. 2 things.. better communication and more frequent dates (the latter I knew was going to be tough bc of his traveling schedule). He agreed to both. I went back into it with trepidation and holding on to the strength that I had gained which was the ability to walk at any point if he wasn’t stepping up. But here we are… still together! He has kept his promise and in turn I have no stress about the communication lapses.I look at my post from last year and the turmoil all comes back to me.. but it’s gone! I created boundaries, communicated expectations and showed him I would exit if they weren’t met. His respect for me increased 10 fold. I learned that here so a big thank you to all!!
    He is right now flying back from a three week global trip for work and it has been so easy.. no stress , no drama, he texts me when he wants, I text him, when in want, no pressure and he can’t wait to get back to me.
    One other thing I’ve learned is to never punish a man… it just does not work at all. Rewarding good behavior is much more effective!
    So cheers to all you ladies… cheers to learning about ourselves and all forms of personal growth, and not accepting less than we want or deserve!

    #524768 Reply
    Van

    Lane sounds like a woman who doesn’t need or want the attention. She comes across as calm, very easy going and just doesn’t require the same amount of affection as many women today seem to require. And as calm and independent as she is, her husband still became an “EX.” Makes me wonder if he was an idiot or what’s his deal?

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