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Ella
I finally had sex for the first time in over a year where I was comfortable and trusted the dude. I never thought once it would be a super serious thing but now I am unsure how this situationship will continue unless I finally speak up cause I am just not on his mind at all I realize. I wanted to have sex with him, and I do not regret that, but we are both entering different chapters and he is also giving me such mixed vibes. He is doing his last year of school (he is my age, we are both soon to be 24 but he didn’t do online school during COVID which I don’t blame him) and I am starting a new job in NYC. I knew me having sex with him would be kinda getting messy but I figured he has enough red flags that I would not get attached and we are two hours away from one another (the drive was super easy to be honest, wasn’t horrible).
His mixed signals is what’s eating me up and I’ve been wanting to cut it off but thinking a slow fade might just be easier. In the middle of sex he asks me randomly if I am enjoying myself ,and I say of course I am, yet the morning of he doesn’t offer to make any breakfast or get food immediately (I was hungry until 5pm) and shows me around places in his hometown and continues to point out two places where he has had sex with girls in this park…after we had sex 3 times. Makes no sense to me and he has continually said random out of pocket stuff like this where at first I think he just has no filter but now I truly think he just doesn’t like me, cause what guy would say this type of stuff to a woman he actually likes. After sex, I did say something nice of just how I am glad I came over (something simple) and he made a comment about how he was happy to make a homemade pizza (we made it together) and to nail down the recipe in response and I actually said how I was shocked he said that in reply, he could’ve just said “I am glad you came over too”, then he proceeded to say “of course I am glad you came over, my dick is in your hand”. My friend after I told her this told me how he is setting the bar right in front of me, and nothing else needs analyzing and she is right.
All these stories about other girls and asking me if I am enjoying myself during sex (which I clearly am) makes me think he has hella insecurities or such an inflated ego to override it. Its a weird situation cause I think he is an interesting person outside of sex and am very physically attracted to him, but when he says this type of stuff and some of his actions just make me go “????!!”. The goodbye was simple, I said how I enjoyed myself and thanked him a bit for showing me around (he did not rush me out of his place), and he said how he would like to see me again but I purely think he was just being polite. But see, none of this is worth overanalyzing. I just suck with cutting things off and he is the first person I semi-vibed with in awhile but too many factors are working against me here. I also feel like I can’t get any type of emotional depth with him cause he will judge me. How awful is that. So I am taking breadcrumbs here, yet I trust him sexually and as a person? So weird. Never been in this dynamic before. Thanks for reading.
AYou’re right – he’s not into you and you can recognize that. Why push it further? Ghost him. You deserve better than accepting breadcrumbs.
AngieBaby“I wanted to have sex with him, and I do not regret that, but we are both entering different chapters and he is also giving me such mixed vibes.”
You sound like the one who’s giving mixed vibes. If you had sex with him and don’t regret it, then why are you so confused about “mixed vibes”?? You had sex with him without being in a relationship and that was OK with you, according to you. Did you think that sex would establish a relationship? Why did you have sex with him knowing you’re in different chapters? What did you expect here, exactly? Instant GF status? Sex doesn’t mean you’re in a relationship.
Men will usually take NSA sex if it’s offered, and that’s what you offered.
There’s no such thing as mixed vibes. You’re refusing to see the obvious. He thought you were OK with casual sex, because that’s how you presented yourself. So that’s why he’s telling you about other girls. You’re a f*ck buddy. He doesn’t think you care and he clearly doesn’t see you as a potential relationship so he is not going to make breakfast, etc.
I’m not seeing what the real problem is here. You knew what you were getting into, from what you’ve said.
MaddieAnother question would be, what exactly are your intentions? You need to sort them out clearly first before you can communicate them clearly. But if you want an actual relationship and not casual sex, he doesn’t sound like your guy. There don’t seem to be mixed signals from him around that.
RavenCongrats Ella, For ‘coming’ out of your sexual hibernation!
What did you learn from this?
Amy SHe sounds quite creepy tbh. You deserve better than a “dick in your hand” Jeez
Liz LemonThe other posters have all made really good points. There’s nothing unclear to me about his behavior from what you’ve written….although I do agree with Amy S, he sounds obnoxious (with the “d!ck in your hand” comment, and telling you about other women he’s had sex with…someone can be an FWB and still refrain from making trashy comments). He is making it really, really clear that you’re merely a f*ck buddy. He’s not treating you with much respect, honestly.
It sounds to me like you’re the one who’s unclear. You say at the beginning of the post you never thought it would be serious, if that’s the case then what’s the problem?
He’s not going to give you the “emotional depth” that you mention. Here’s the thing, which the regular posters constantly bring up on this board– women catch feelings from sex, men don’t. Women aren’t wired for FWB. There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s just how it is. So perhaps you approached the situation thinking you could do FWB, and now you’re confused. It happens.
Like Raven said, learn what you can from this. I think what you’ve learned is that you can’t do mere FWB. That’s OK! Neither can I, or most women. If we start having sex with a guy we inevitably catch feelings for him. Unfortunately guys aren’t wired that way, they can have sex with women and feel nothing for them emotionally. That’s clearly what’s happening here. You’re feeling confused and hurt by his crass behavior, while he sees nothing wrong with it because he feels no emotional attachment to you.
EllaI was going to reply one by one here but since everyone is in agreement (including myself) thought it would be better for a general reply. I knew what I was advancing for sure, and didn’t see this end up being a relationship even from our very first phone call, but I did expect some human respect to respect here?? We had nice moments together in the 24 hours we spent, but the negging comments he makes, to just having no human decency towards me at all (I don’t even think he actually LIKES me) confuses me. I get the NSA sex part, but thought he had some type of fondness for me after talking to each other for 2 and a half months. Some of his comments were complete and utter jerk level type which on top of the few nice moments made my head wanna go into a spiral.
I told him from the get-go I was looking for a connection, but its clear of how we have only seen each other 3 times in a two month span this is not at all what I want, especially since I am def seeing the real him shine thru here. I bet he can become more romantic and whatnot with a girl he likes, but these lowkey bullying comments he makes (he’s trying to be playful) is just borderline cruel and not flirty. He also has told me about another girl he has made cry in the past from his lowkey roast-y comments, and the sharing of stories imo has gotten to be too much. After sex in addition to that pizza comment, he also randomly said how he “thinks I would be good in a threesome.” According to him, I don’t give off that vibe that I would become jealous or “clingy”. I was shocked. So now I think I know his agenda with me, and that at some point he’s going to attempt to pitch a threesome which is why I’ve been stuck in this loop.
I accidently left my shorts behind at his house (not done on purpose) so planning to tell him I will pay for postage and if he could mail them to me that would be great. I don’t want him to think I only did that so I could see him again, genuinely they got thrown behind his bed.
I for real just don’t understand some of his comments. He tells me how he thinks I am very attractive and hot, yet says these borderline insults to me. I know he has talked to younger girls in the past too and I think he leans towards that cause the younger girls won’t speak up to him about any of this? Yes, I am listing red flag after red flag here. He also randomly went on a rant to me about his classes two days ago (I never asked him anything about them) and he randomly texted me “Can assure 0 bitches in my classes.” I was appalled. So mad he was referring to women like this. What did he even mean by it?? like?? Supposed to make me feel better???? No idea. And he keeps telling me how he needs to meet people at his new school, and I am ready to be like “Yes join the clubs. and Good luck!”. What does he expect me to say to like ANY of these comments????????
Sorry thanks for the rant. Half of me feels dumb for letting his comments get to my brain but another part knew I was very physically attracted to him and just wanted to put up with it for a night of fun. I just want the shorts back and now don’t want to entertain whatever this was/is any further (or any casual thing for that matter).
RavenHe sounds delightful (sarcasm)…
Do you REALLY need those shorts back- really?
MaddieSome men have no respect for women, and some people have no respect for other people. It’s nothing you did, and it’s not more complicated than that. He just sounds toxic, and after you get your shorts back, go no contact with his @$$. You had higher hopes, but he doesn’t deserve your time, or sex. You’re not stupid. Now he’s shown you who he is, so you know you’re not missing anything except insults and manipulation. He’s trying to pull the whole, you’re a cool girl and not like the other girls, so that you don’t speak up or challenge him and he doesn’t need to put in effort. You’re probably onto something about how he targets younger women for a reason.
laneSadly, this has become common behavior for young people. I own a business near a high school and you should hear some of the comments they make towards each other, and oftentimes its the girls who are the worst offenders!
Based on your age I think a good book for you to read would be Dr. Phil’s “Life Code: The new rules for Winning in the real world.” He explains about these different types of behaviors, how to arm yourself once you spot them. Knowledge is power!
CarrieI believe you had a nice time with this man until he started disrespecting you by talking about other girls he had been with in the past and their sexual locations. He also did not seem very considerate of your feelings, in general, such as: are you hungry, may I get you something to eat or drink that morning. I believe you sound very wise and know what you do not want in a man, is it someone like him? Please do not be confused about this guy, and let him know what you do not care for in him. This way he can understand your relationship.
Best of luck to you! CarrieEllaResponding a bit late as I have not checked this, but thank you all for the feedback and help. I told him it would be great if he could mail the clothing and here’s my address and he said he would but nothing still. And I haven’t really heard a peep from him in 3 days, just low effort communication across another app, (barely texting). I don’t know why he couldn’t even just offer himself to mail the clothing and I had to tell him. If he left something at my place, I would immediately offer to mail it! Breadcrumbs are just dwindling here, and at this rate I would prefer just a mutual ghosting situation. There is nothing to salvage. Bums me out because I felt like we had genuine momentum back in July, but he never took the initiative I was looking for. I do NOT regret sleeping with him as I was insanely attracted to him I just thought there could’ve been better respect and more effort from his end. Lesson learned. And I just gotta accept I might not get that clothing back lol. He also kept telling me when girls up to 4 years younger than him from his classes were trying to get flirty with him and it made me confused and icky as why he was even telling me this.
Idk he has shown exactly what he thinks of me. Thanks again for the help.TallspicyI do not understand how in one breath you can say you slept with him nsa and then you are confused when you are treated as nta. He did nothing wrong. You are a hot mess by saying one thing, acting on one thing and then being confused why you are treated exactly as could be expected from the one thing. If you have a sex with a stranger, they are that, a stranger. That is the whole darn
point…if you want to be treated with respect, wait until you know someone or walk away when they don’t. He did not owe you the boyfriend treatment when he was a friends with benefits. You could have just said… I know we are casual, please don’t tell me about other women. You acted casual, he treated you casually. Stop blaming him.TallspicyWhy did you expect effort? He had nothing to earn as you already have him what he should have had to work for. Reading your posts makes we want to shake you. Also, why are you leaving things at a man’s house who is not your boyfriend. Until then, you should assume every time you see someone is the last time as you are not real to each other.
TammyHey this thing is done and dusted. Move on. You slept with a man you went out wid casually. You just wntd to get out of ur secual hibernatn. You did just that! Now move on. About ur shorts, its just a pair of shorts. Easily replaceable. Forget it. Nxt time if you luk for some sort of relatnship, do get to know the man well and his thots on relatnship, whether hes open to it. Dont sleep too soon till you know that your expectations wrt relatnships somewhat match.
ATallandspicy – Really? You’re being very rude to the OP. She isn’t looking for criticism. She is looking for support and advice. Just because you have sex with a stranger does not make it ok for him to disrespect you. He should be respecting her more not less for getting the opportunity to sleep with her. Obviously not a lot of guys are wired like this. He absolutely did do something wrong. He knew she liked him more than fwb and he was stringing her along. He knew exactly what he was doing by sleeping with other girls and he didn’t care. That is massive disrespect.
OP – Keep your head up. Ghost him. Do not talk to this guy ever again. He does not have an emotional connection towards you and is playing with your heart. He knows how you feel and knows exactly what he’s doing. You deserve so much better. Stop sleeping with guys until your official with them and you are a gf. Good luck!
TallspicyA… there is no shame in sleeping with anyone early. However, when you do that, you dont know them. Period. having any expectations of what a person will do is misplaced. It is not his job to treat her well.
It is her job to walk away when he doesn’t. If you want to be respected, respect yourself by walking away and communicating your needs. From what I can tell, she is not owning any of her experience… from lying to herself about being ok with casual, to not communicating her needs, to staying with someone who is not being respectful. She is no victim and it does not serve her to tell her she is.
TallspicyAnd when someone stays with him, but knows you want more, they are not a great person, but you are telling them with your actions you will accept that. Your job to own your experience. You are the CEO of your life, fire anyone who does not belong, and be very clear about the job descriptions you give people. Women are not victims to bad men, they tolerate them instead of finding someone else.
EllaWow I did not expect these additional replies. I’m the one that promoted to stay over his place for sure, and I have said multiple times in this thread I do not regret sleeping with him. I just have had other casual relationships where the man just does not “talk at me”. He has no consideration of my feelings whatsoever. Also the “other” women were from up to five years ago, nothing he was doing recently. I slept with him cause I knew he wasn’t a liar, although he just rattled off too much of the truth and had no filter. We only saw each other 3 times in two months like I said, talked in some form everyday, and we weren’t much of anything. I also did NOT leave my clothing behind on purpose, and felt more stupid about that than anything else. He made a lot of negging comments, and overall made me feel bad. I’m sorry but its possible to have casual sex with another person and not treat them rudely. I don’t think because he didn’t wanna “pursue” me, that means I should just accept plain, old rude behavior regardless. I understand where you’re coming from Tallspicy for sure, and I should have at least spoken up more that I did not like some of his behavior and had some self respect. I never thought once it would escalate into romantic territory, I thought it could’ve been more fun and light than this. That was all! It’s done.
TammyYes he didnt hv to be rude. But you cant really do much here can you?? You cant teach someone basic etiquettes.. and well write off those shorts and just close this chapter. We all make mistakes. Next time probably you will be more discerning even if your just lookin for casual sex. Dont beat urself up. Jot this down to experience, lesson learnt and move on..
MaryI would just be looking forward to your new adventure in NYC. When a guy disappoints… (unless you both are in love) don’t speak up, just lean back and focus on yourself. Be true to yourself and let the universe throw you another.
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