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    Lee

    to have the, “what are you looking for” conversation? It’s only been 6 weeks. Definitely not time for a full blown commitment or title yet. But I do want to make sure we are in the same page at this point (i.e. working today that, potentially/that that’s an option if things continue to go well.) And follow up question – how do I bring that up without looking like I want exclusivity right now/scaring him off? I really like where we are. We talk multiple times each day, see each other once every 4-5 days or so. I don’t want to screw that up I just want to keep my heart from getting broken if an exclusive relationship in the (near) future is totally off the table.

    #945005 Reply
    Tallspicy

    Around date 3, and definitely before sex. And if he is not your boyfriend by 12 weeks he is not going to be. I don’t know why you are afraid to have that conversation. You always ask a man in the first 3 dates what they are looking for. Because at that point, it is not about you… if they can’t define it, then they just want companionship and should be treated as such. Honestly, it is a red flag he has not asked. Anyone looking for a real relationship makes sure early and often that the other person wants the same things… not necessarily with them, but generally.

    #945006 Reply
    Lee

    Thank you. We just had date 3 this past Tuesday and I think that’s why I’m feeling like it’s time for the chat. He’s older than I am. And I’m wondering if he just thinks it’s a given that that is what we are doing. Last week his texts weren’t going through to me (long story) and he called me to ask why I was ghosting him. No one my age does that. So I’m getting signals that this is something he’s equally as invested in but not actually sorting that out is giving me anxiety.

    #945007 Reply
    AngieBaby

    I’ve only had three men ask “what are you looking for” in those words. None of them was in a healthy place. One had been dumped in an unpleasant way and was determined to never let it happen again… by interrogating every woman he went out with, on the first date. One of them was under pressure to get married and produce a child, ASAP. One was looking for a girlfriend to tick the box, so he could look good to his colleagues at company events.

    A man will reveal in conversation how he sees his life going and will ask INDIRECT questions to find out what you want. That’s my experience.

    The best time to ask in a more direct way is at the time you know sex is imminent. Then it’s natural to say, I feel comfortable having sex at the point we know we’re both on the same page. Would you share with me where you are in life and what dating means to you? I’d be happy to share my thoughts too. That’s the more gentle version way to ask “what are you looking for” which I find overly direct and rather abrupt – puts someone on the spot rather than opens an open discussion that builds a bridge between two people.

    #945008 Reply
    Scott

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    #945010 Reply
    Lee

    Thanks so much Angiebaby. Thats exactly where I am right now. I think we are getting closer to the intimacy stage and I don’t want to do that until I know for sure we are on the same page. I just think it sounds so awkward no matter how you phrase it. Although having said that with this guy there really is no awkward. I’m very much myself around him and feel very comfortable (hence why I feel like I’m ready for the intimacy stage.)

    I think I’m terrible at interpreting nonverbal, indirect queues. We text multiple times a day/every day. He always tries to pay for dates (I let him most times but have picked up one tab and he let me do it begrudgingly.) We talk about our jobs and our kids and close friends and all other real life things and he remembers literally everything I tell him (which actually makes me feel bad to some extent bc my memory stinks and I don’t always remember everything he tells me.) So I think we are both on the same page but I do know it’s time to actually hash that out and I’m just struggling to find the words that work for me.

    #945011 Reply
    AngieBaby

    Lee, it sounds like things are going along fine. How did you meet him? If you met online, there is usually some indication in their profile of what kind of relationship they are seeking.

    You’re right, it’s just kind of uncomfortable at that stage when you’re wondering if you both want the same things, although you aren’t necessarily asking for a declaration of BF/GF at that moment. In my experience men who are healthy and paying attention to you like taking you out on dates and paying, communicating, etc. are in the market for a committed relationship. Men often don’t need a big discussion about it. Unless you’re seeing any worrying signs, you’re probably OK to keep going for another few weeks. You can ask indirect questions about what makes him happy in life, where he sees his career going, etc. and that can give you an indication of where his head’s at. So far, sounds like a decent guy, but your job in dating is to enjoy his company and get to know him so you can at some point decide if he meets your standard and you both want the same things. At about the 3-4 month mark that’s when both people are deciding if what you’ve got going has a possible future. That’s why a lot of people end it at that time when they realize it’s been fun but they don’t see it going anywhere for some reason.

    Definitely ask and get clarity before you add sex into the mix.

    #945013 Reply
    Lee

    Angie thank you SO much for the advice and pep talk. We have had plans on the books to get together tonight but it was a beautiful day here yesterday and he sent me a text asking if I wanted to come over for a drink outside before the sun went down, impromptuly. With a little liquid courage to back me up I initiated the conversation and it seems it was a conversation he wanted to have too. It could not have gone better and I am so incredibly thankful for all of the advice. I’m feeling much much better today and can’t wait to see him again tonight. <3

    #945014 Reply
    AngieBaby

    YAY! You’re most welcome. So happy for you. It feels like you’ve got a good one here. Cheering for both of you!!

    #945017 Reply
    Tallspicy

    Why have you only gone out 3 times in 6 weeks?

    #945018 Reply
    Lee

    Hi Tall! We met online and talked for 2.5 weeks before our first date. Since our first date we’ve been out (now 4 times – tonight will be the 5th) so averaging once a week in the beginning and now a tad more frequently.

    #945019 Reply
    Lee

    Yay! Thanks again, Angie! Time will tell but for now I’m definitely happy and it feels really good being able to be so straightforward and honest :)

    #945027 Reply
    Mary

    I agree…by 3 months for sure, a guy will have the gf talk.

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