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I’ve been messaging to a guy for 10 weeks. Due to working away we’ve had only 6 dates 3 within a week and the other 3 within another 2 week period, all with kissing & the last one more heavy making out to the point I left as I felt we were about to initiate sex. The 5th date was the first time i’d seen him in 2 weeks & the 6th a few days later
Everything is going great & I am back home for work so feel we can take things further, we’ve had deep conversations on life ambitions, past and plans for future going places including a 4 day break in a few weeks & friends know were seeing each other and have seen us together so its no secret.
I feel the next date will feel right for sex perhaps but want to make sure he isn’t dating others & need to know how to ask with out killing the mood
I’ve been to his place on a number of occasions & been out in public together also. We had agreed to take things slowly before due to my work routine & its been nice not having pressure. But since I returned permanently to my office things heated up from his side.
There was an occasion where he didnt reply to my message on a Saturday for 5 hours, but was active online. Which made me wonder where he was. He said he was out with friends, but hadnt mentioned going out earlier that day.
Whats the best way to ask with out sounding needy or accusing? Also is it too early to expect exclusivity?
I dont want to date anyone else as I feel 11 weeks is a long period of time & I dont want to be sleeping with a guy who has other girls on the side line
VeronicaI think to ask a guy if he is seeing other women would be pointless, no matter how you ask him because he will never admit it, if he wants a relationship with you. I don’t know a guy, no matter how honest he normally is with other things, to say, “oh, yes, I sleep also with so and so…”.
But if he doesn’t try to hide you in front of his friends (and perhaps family) and publicly goes out with you, chances are he is not dating anyone else. Don’t focus on messaging….they don’t mean anything because men usually don’t like messaging anyways and keep it to a minimum. To tell you the truth, I personally also don’t like messaging, unless it’s something very important or emergency. I prefer to talk to that person face to face or at least call. But lives are busy, so many people don’t have time to send messages all the time. It’s normal when a man doesn’t respond to a message for 1 or 2 days (let alone hours) if he is busy or finds a message unimportant. Don’t take it personally. You will feel it if a man loses interest.
VeronicaForgot to say…10 weeks is still a small period of time to think about serious relationship, especially when you guys are sometimes apart due to working away. Seeing each other even once a week is good in the beginning. I am in LDR for a year and we sometimes see each other only once in 2 weeks or even longer in the winter as driving could be dangerous. And we have no doubts about our relationship, as we call each other FaceTime almost every day and enjoy the moment. We will eventually move closer together this fall.
VeronicaOr you may just mention to your guy that you never dated more than one man at the time in your life and definitely don’t sleep with anyone you are not in relationship with….that it’s against your values. Then ask him innocently if he feels the same.
Some men however feel that if they are not married or don’t live with anyone, that they are free to date other people or even sleep with. They don’t feel fully committed if they just date someone. It depends…JennaOk thanks for that
Yes 10 weeks isnt a great deal of time. The contact has declined slightly over this period as it was 5-10 messages per day and phone calls to 1 or 2 messages with some days having gaps but then we are meeting face to face now and that time together has improved each time so I cant complain really
So I guess seeing a decline in messaging and the gaps Ive viewed it as loosing interest or spending time on others. I guess the early stages was to impress and now its more comfortable right?
I guess I’ve never been the type to multi-date and I analyse people before I spend my time with them and I have seen glimmers of this so far that I like so perhaps I’m committing my self too fast and need to chill
Kinda plays on your mind if your ready to go the whole way with someone you don’t want to find out your one of many, as gals always feel a deeper connection after sex so im wary of how it might make me feel if it happens and dont want to get hurt
LaneHonesty, this conversation should have started on date 2 or 3 as it’s a big part of getting to know someone to determine where their at emotionally. The ‘talk is a mood killer—- if some dude brought this up “hey, just want to make sure we’re on the same page and not sleeping with others before we bang each other.” Sorry but it’s not going to solve your dilemma but only put him in a pressure cooker….your essentially bartering for sex and that’s not the way to a man’s heart.
You know the analogy about putting a frog in cool water and let it boil slowly v. Throwing it in a pot of boiling water so that it jumps out? Same concept works with dating. These conversations should have been discussed, In a question answer form wher you start small and then build up to the harder questions to see where a man’ at emotionally.
Such as, when was yiour last relationship? What’s your career aspirations? What’s your thoughts on marriage? Are you a cat r dog person? Have you ever cheated? What’s your favorite place to visit? Are you still playing the field or thinking about settling down?
His answers will tell you what you need to know by just asking seemingly simpl questions. Just know that a man has to emotionally bond with you first—-they bond/fall in love with their BIG HEAD, not the little one.
bedazzleDon’t ask a man what he wants or what he is doing. Tell him what your rules are and then let him decide if he is going to join you are not.
For example you could say something like, “I have been enjoying our time together and I am very attracted to you. I just want you to know that if I am going to be sexually intimate with a man, I want sexual exclusivity where we are dating only each other to see where the relationship may go.” That way you set the boundary.
If he is a player or not serious about pursuing you he will back out. That is a good thing since you want that to happen BEFORE you have sex with him. If he chooses to go for it, now you are having sex in an exclusive dating situation.
You said, “There was an occasion where he didnt reply to my message on a Saturday for 5 hours, but was active online.” Wow, I would suggest you read the article Eric has written on this site about women, men and texting. If you are going to get bent out of shape for a man not being in touch with you over 5 hours and watch him online, you are going to come across as needy in the relationship.
PearlI have only ever had this ‘talk’ one time that worked in my favour and it was because the guy kept asking me stay over at his place and I knew I wasn’t ready to have sex with him so I laid my cards on the table and I told him that I didn’t think it was a good idea because I don’t like to have sex outside of a committed relationship (even though I had in the past that’s not the point!). His reponse was positive and he said he totally respected it. We didn’t ever end up in a relationship for other various reasons but I was so glad that I had been honest and I got a respectful positive response from him and if I hadn’t then I would have known that he wasn’t even worth someone going forward with.
PamYou have only actually dated in person 3 weeks out of 10. Why rush the sex.
JennaThanks guys for all this.I’m 100% not rushing anything and a lot of those questions have been mentioned in general conversation just not this biggie I guess my bad.
its just a few things have occurred that made me wonder is all.
and your right about not getting bent over 5 hours. Which I wasn’t. Sure it seems kinda crazy. However it was out of the ordinary patterns & It so happened I was online & noticed I’m not a stalking freak by any means
redcurleysueI do not have sex with a man until we are exclusive….and he locks me down. I do not need to have the talk….they do all the work on this..they tell me they want to be with me exclusively. If they do not do that I do not have sex with them.
It is simple.
T from NYAgree you should always be communicating to a man what YOUR boundaries are and go from there. I’m not sure when you’ll talk to him next. It will be hard for you since you two haven’t been discussing it already… and in person is best, but if that isn’t practical, then next time you’re on the phone, if you can find a way to say it naturally —maybe if he flirts with you or mentions how attracted he is to you or whatever just say “I find you incredibly attractive too. I thought it would be good to tell you — I made a decision a while ago that I only sleep with someone I am sexually exclusive with. Helps me keep my head straight and really explore something. It’s just what I’m comfortable with. Just wanted to give you a heads up.”
Then LISTEN to what he says. If he doesn’t seem particularly interested in talking about it and just says – Oh, I understand. Or, Ya, that seems right. Then change the subject to something fun and let him think about it. Most men will skidattle pretty quickly afterwards if they don’t like those terms. Wait and see what he does.
Meanwhile — reading Why Men Love Bitches is an incredible book about how to speak to men. I highly recommend it. Doesn’t teach you to be an actual bitch — just a woman who’s assertive, confident and peaceful! Best of luck and let us know how it goes!!
Anne ohioYou probably won’t take the advice, but I think you should wait and plan on not having sex yet. You are thinking this next date will be sex time.
He probably also is horny.
I would plan the date so sex is not an option. A dinner date, then home alone. Or whatever.
As we say on this site repeatedly, a man will wait for sex for a woman he truly adore, but not for a sex partner..
Hold out, see what he does when your birthday or some special event comes along, get to know him better.
Wait for him to announce that he wants you for his special woman.
EmmaI am with Anne here, if he’s been courting you for 10 weeks, he can wait another few weeks.
And I applaud you for wanting to talk about exclusivity BEFORE having sex.
It is quite something that these days women feel awkward and almost embarrassed to talk about something that should be there for granted. In the past when we dated it was assumed that once you start seeing each other for more than 2-3 days, you are an “it”, an item, and you are exclusive. This was the decent normal thing to do, and if one partner starts seeing someone else, this was considered cheating. These days, you have to ASK.
Do not apologize or feel even a tiny bit of embarrassment for making absolutely clear that you require exclusivity to have sex.
Granted he can lie, anyone can lie, we can’t protect ourselves from deceiptoin, but this will make him a a-hole, and most men aren’t a-holes. Most men do not cheat, but many would use an opportunity if there is a “legal loophole”, such as no title, no agreement, you did not ask, we did not talk, I assumed it is ok.
The best way for you would be to make him wait longer for sex and to make sure you two have a verbal agreement about sexual exclusivity.
Emmafor more than 2-3 “dates”, not days. Duh!
VeronicaThe thing is about exclusivity that some men will value and respect your boundaries but it doesn’t mean they will do the same in their own case. Men think differently. If they fell like it, they might get sex from someone else before you are ready for sex with him, and you will never find out. To make a long story short….if you are not ready for sex, most men will find it somewhere else. Every relationship coach will tell you that.
KhadijaWhile you been in contact for 10 weeks you have only been on a few dates with him.
I’d hold off until the dates become more frequent. During the next few dates, start the conversation by asking question and see what he says. I agree with Lane build up to it.
If he is right for you then he can wait a while longer before becoming intimate.
BetsI agree with the others that u should hold off. Never assume a man isn’t seeing or sleeping with other women. I was seeing a guy very steadily, lots of dinners out and sleepovers at least 3 or more nights a week. Me bad for assuming I was the only one. There were 2 exes he was still sleeping with, and he was also lining up POF dates. Not saying your guy is doing this, u just never know.
KathyI might phrase it as “I really don’t have sex with anyone until we are exclusively dating”. because if you just say “exclusive sexually”, some guys might think they will be exclusively sexual with you, but STILL might go out on other dates!
What do you’ll think?
AliBefore I slept with my current BF I made it clear that sex means a lot to me emotionally and I think the exact words I used were that although I had no interest in rushing things, I was into monogomy, so before we do this I want to be sure we are both “just focusing on each other”. He immediately said yes, that is what he wanted to and that is how I knew we were “exclusive”… we made it “official” a few weeks later.
I think it is incredibly important to be clear on these things if you are uncomfortable with him having multiple partners. Its a grown up conversation to have. Avoiding it can only lead to potential misunderstandings and hurt feelings.
again, there is a difference between “we are only sleeping with each other” and ‘we are boyfriend and girlfriend’. For health reasons alone you are perfectly in line inquiring about if he wants to be monogomous, and then take it from there.
AliAlso wanted to add that I agree with Bedazzle that checking up on whether he is online or not when you haven’t heard from him for 5 hours is not healthy. That kind of “surveillance” is actually a real sign of insecurity… the dude should be able to wait 5 hrs to reply to a text without you checking up on him and assuming that he is lying! Also google it and you’ll see that FB in particular is notorious for that being inaccurate. My aunt was in the hospital in a coma and it once said she was “online”. So for chrissake don’t start getting all weird and stalker-y and driving yourself crazy with all that BS.
Jenna@ Ali, it wasn’t facebook & i wasn’t snooping, i was online myself & noticed lol
Thanks for all the advice everybody. I feel more comfortable going foward
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