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    Lidia

    Hi there,
    I’m pretty much in need of some help and guidance, and any comment is going to be very well received.
    I’ve met this guy on an online date site on January of this year. We’ve talked over email and then over whatsapp for months. After we’ve finally met over coffee four months ago, we have been in touch every single day. Whatsapp in the morning, in the middle of the day and at the evening. Every saturday we went out to the cinema. On sundays we’ve talked over the phone for an hour or so. At the evenings he usually called me and we talked for an hour.
    We kinda “click”, and have spent a lot of time together as friends. He divorced a year ago (it was +20 years of marriage), and told me that he has been feeling lonely, and that laughing with me was very good for him, and that he felt very at ease with me.
    There was some sort of sexual tension between us, the way he looked at me from bottom to top, and some double meaning phrases that usually made us laugh. We talked about everything.

    He then goes to have a long planned vacation with a divorced male friend of him. He planned it before we started to date. It was a 2 weeks vacation.
    He started to sparingly sent me audio messages over whatsapp, they were nice messages. He kept asking me how was I doing, but didn’t listen to the replies that I sent him.
    One day that I was feeling really low, I sent him an audio telling him that he didn’t even listened to my messages, that he didn’t even know nor care about how I was doing, so we should stop sending messages and wait till he returned. The tone was very serious and plainly rude. He has being very friendly up until then. He stopped any message after that. He was clearly offended (it was a rude message I must admit).
    I tried to apologise (after realising my rudeness) using text, but he didn’t respond.
    After a lot of thought I ralised that I was just missing him a lot more than I thought possible and that I was being quite jelous because I imagined him with other women. After he came back, I call him and tried to talk to him. He told me that he was hurt and angry for that message, and that he needed time.
    One week passed and I call him again, saying that please, we should meet in person, because I wanted to apologise. He say no, he wasn’t ready.

    So I call him once more and told him that I’ve missed him, that I was jealous and that I realised that my message wasn’t one of a friendly friend, but that it sounded different, and that it was because I started to have some feelings for him, and that I didn’t know how to deal with those feelings, and that I was very sorry for my rudeness. That he didn’t deserve that message, that it was me that was so confused because of my feelings, and that I just realised them. I told him that I wasn’t used to be in contact with my feelings, and that I didn’t know how to act or do, and that he was very nice, that the fault was all from my part. I really think that way, after all, we were just friends.
    He told me that he needed to think about everything, that I couldn’t expect for him to call me or send me messages that it was before, and that we should wait and stop any contact, because he was still in a bad situation because of his marriage breakup. And that he still felt bad about the whole thing, and that he didn’t felt like talking or meeting me in person right then.

    A week has passed since then. He didn’t call me but since he came back from his trip he has been every single day (at least twice) on the dating site looking for women. I know because he inadvertedly contacted a friend of mine. And she checks on him and tells me that he keeps being online.
    So, I think he just shut me down for good, and he won’t think of me again, or call me again. Am I right?
    We’ve talked for four months, and I can’t belive that he didn’t accept my apology, nor wanted to meet me in order to clear this thing out. I’m not sure how to feel about the whole thing right now, because I still miss our talks, and I miss his friendship. Doesn’t he miss me a bit? Not in the least? I’m thrown away just like that?
    I really appreciate any comment on this.

    #478888 Reply
    Rose

    I don’t think he was ever interested in anything other than friendship.

    He took too long to go out with you, he never really dated you and he got upset for something really dumb.

    He’s not that in to you.

    I think he just wanted the attention but is unavailable.

    #478891 Reply
    Pollyanne

    Hi Lidia,

    Sorry but I don’t think you’ll be hearing from him anytime soon. You made it clear that you want more from him than he was giving to you. And you didn’t respect him when he asked you to give him time, because you kept calling/messaging him about it, which is most likely why he completely stepped away.

    I’m sure he misses you, but if he hasn’t been in contact than he doesn’t miss you enough. You may have viewed your relationship as more serious than he did. I wouldn’t contact him anymore.. you have apologized and reached out enough. If he wants to be in touch again, he will.

    #478897 Reply
    Lidia

    Thanks for your replies! I really, really appreciate them.

    Yes, I’m fully aware that I didn’t respect his need for some time off, but I really needed to reach him and tell him how I felt when I discovered how was I feeling. I did have this truth inside me that was bursting to get out. I sincerely thought he would be feeling the same. He always told me that he wanted a stable relationship with someone.

    I think that someone who really miss you shouldn’t wait that long to contact you and put things right again.

    I know that my comment was very rude, but I can’t take that back, just apologise. Nobody is perfect, but his unforgiveness for something that is quite silly after all, really did hurt me.

    #478913 Reply
    Jules

    I think his response has less to do with what you said and more what it meant–you want and expect more from him.

    He hasn’t healed fully from his divorce so he’s what we would consider emotionally unavailable. While he may want someone in his life, he’s not ready to have anything substantial with anymore.

    I think whether you had expressed your feelings this way or another, the result would’ve been the same, he would’ve walked away. He’s not ready, plain and simple.

    Also, stop having your friend keep tabs on him. It’ll only drive you crazy.

    #478920 Reply
    Lidia

    Thanks for your reply!

    I think that it was better for me to understand this sooner rather than later, because if we kept this way, I would have been even more emotionally involved.

    Its rather sad that he shuts me down like that instead of talikng over coffee or something. Even to say that he’s emotionally unavailable.

    It took a big deal of me to call him and tell him that I realised that I’ve developed some feelings for him. I thing that not allowing a sit down and a conversation about the whole thing is somehow a cowardice.

    Anyway, it still hurts, but less every day that passes by. We were just friends after all.

    #478922 Reply
    Khadija

    I think the real issue is much more than some message you sent him.
    He is just recently out of a divorce and isn’t looking for anything serious. However, you are and he is sensing this.
    The message was his convenient way of being able to put space between you two.
    What I can say for the future is apologize once and let the person decide if they want to forgive you. Groveling is not ideal.
    Lastly, instead of having your girlfriend stalk him on the website how about you two go out in your finest and met some people.

    #478924 Reply
    kaye

    You did the classic girl freak out and you acted like a girlfriend when you weren’t. You texted him, you called him, you acted needy and then dumped all these feelings you were having on him. He was already backing away from you and you made this all about you and your feelings and totally didn’t respect his need for time. Now you have him running away from you.

    You will see it play out time and time again on this site. The 3-4 month mark is a critical time in a relationship and it is when a guy decides whether or not he sees you as long term potential. You can do the seemingly smallest little thing during this time before he commits to you and it will be enough for him to realize this isn’t working for him and to walk away. And yes it is easy for them. Just read on here how it happens all the time.

    I can’t tell from what you’ve written whether or not this guy is emotionally unavailable from his divorce or he is using that as an excuse to keep his distance from you. You can’t force a man to have a relationship with you. You need to stop contacting him and start to heal and move on.

    #478929 Reply
    Maria

    Lidia – I am sorry you are hurting. But I think there is still a chance for you to get him back. The good thing he is divorced, hence he understands women. But also as a divorced men, he understands that if a woman cannot control herself for 2 weeks while he is away, then there will be other problems in the relationship later on, and he wants to have a good and light time, he told you he enjoys laughing with you.

    You are coming on too hard, with too much emotion and too much “my feelings are what matters the most to me”. Men are not like women. They can appreciate the detailed account of every little fear and worry you had that prompted you to make that rude voice mail, but they also think in terms of ACTIONS. What would you do next time if you get some fears or jealousy?

    Another thing, you need to stop writing and expressing your concerns via distance of any kind, especially via email and texts, and voice mail with an angry message – he can listen to it several times !!. It always backfires. In my life this has always been the case. I always regretted it when I wrote an email or text instead of talking in person. There could be some circumstances where you need to write a letter, but those are for some major circumstances, not when you felt jealous or insecure for some reason.

    Please try to see things from another person’s perspective. He is on vacation, having a great time, and then you come with your demanding and rude message, and then started apologizing and overdid it to the point that he felt suffocated.

    When a female friend leaves you an angry message or shouts at you that you are not giving her enough attention, we women know what to do – we would hug her and tell her you care about her and we would buy her something, we know that all this “rudeness” is a cry for attention, nothing else, then we talk about every little feeling we’ve experienced, we laugh and cry and we forget it and go on as if nothing happened, maybe feeling closer to each other than ever. If you do that to a man, 90% of them will pull away, among them there would be some who would run away. Men would translate all your “feeling” words into “actions she would take later on”.

    So right now, even though it is incredibly hard for you to do that, and believe me, most of us here on this forum been there, you need to stop all and every contact with him, including social media. You need to allow him to forget the “stress” he’s experienced from your “emotional attack” on him. He would date other women, but do not think that they all would be angels and that it is so easy for him to forget you (although he is certainly trying), so after some time, he would really miss you (if you are vanished completely, not if you continue to ping him in some ways). He then might contact you. If he does, sweetheart, please try to see things from HIS perspective, do not start apologizing again, telling him how you feel, do not start pouring all YOUR worries onto him. Just take it easy, be fun, laugh, give him some time to see that you COULD be different, do not bring anything heavy onto him. Take it slow. And next time, please constrain yourself, it is not all about you. If you really have a concern, wait until you see him in person, pick the time when he is not tired or worried about something like work, and gently probe him, gently ask for what you want, and do not ask 10 times, say it once, and then give him time to correct things, if he does not, then you can decide what to do next.

    #478932 Reply
    Lidia

    Thanks for your replies!
    Yes, I know that I acted like a fool. I’m sad because I know he won’t call me again, and I still miss him.
    I think he’s using this as an excuse, and I totally get that I sent him a message as if I were his girlfriend when I weren’t. That’s what got me all freak out. Even then, I didn’t understand that I was harboring feelings for him. I realised that after the whole mess and a lot of introspection in front of the mirror.

    Anyway, maybe if he really liked me, he could have overlook that and try and clarify things. I mean we really talked about everything.

    And now, after all this time and he being into the site every single moment, looking for other women, even when I’m very hurt, I couldn’t allow him to reconsider and talk (if he ever wants to do that, I doubt it very much).

    I need to move on, I know, and yeah, I asked my friend to stop telling me anything, I just don’t want to know anymore.

    #478934 Reply
    Lidia

    Thanks for your reply, Maria.
    I’m not used to dating, and at the time I didn’t realised that I was being that rude nor that I was having some feelings for him. In fact, I realised those feelings only after asking myself several times why I sent him that rude message.

    It hurts a lot that he dismiss me that easy and that quick, but sadly I did everything wrong.

    I didn’t contact him from a week now, and I don’t plan to, nor do I want to know anymore about his whereabouts.

    And if he comes round, I don’t know if I would like to be with a person that holds a grudge and can’t forgive me for this long (its been 3 weeks from that message, and 1 week with no contact from me).

    #478980 Reply
    WaitWhat

    Imagine that you had a really rough time in life… like you went through a divorce. And then you planned a lovely two-week trip with a friend to try to shake some of that off. And then some guy leaves you semi-angry/terse messages about how you’re not contacting him the right way.

    I think your messages brought him stress when he specifically had needed to relax. Also, I’m not sure if anyone else threw this out here, but if it were me, I don’t think I’d feel like I could win with you. Here he was on his relaxing trip, still contacting you. But the way he contacted you wasn’t good enough. Obviously, he learned from his marriage that if this type of behavior is present now, then it probably won’t get any better (in fact, likely to get worse) as things become more serious. I believe this is why he bailed on you. He doesn’t want the complications or the feeling guilty when he already is trying. Men retreat when they feel like they can’t do anything right. Hence the online dating activity.

    So, the truth is that who knows if he was ok with possibly more with you??? Perhaps he was (and I say this because he took it upon himself to send you messages while on vacay… when I went to Europe in the spring I only messaged the guy I was in love with), but realized he didn’t want to go that route after your messages.

    #478993 Reply
    Jessica

    I don’t think any of us can know for sure what he is thinking or feeling. However, based on his actions I don’t think he was interested enough in you – not enough for you to worry about this test you sent. I’ve found that if a man is really into me – it almost didn’t matter what I said to him – nothing would upset him (for long at least) or make him run away. I just don’t think he was as invested as you were. I think he liked the contact an friendship with you – but it seems he wanted casual. Thus, the minute things turned difficult – he ran.

    I’m curious – the only time you saw each other was on Saturdays at the movies? Did you ever meet any of his friends? Or go to his house? The description of your time together seemed very regimented – a bit off to me. I can’t put my finger on it.

    #478995 Reply
    Jessica

    *text you sent.

    #479002 Reply
    Lidia

    Thanks for your reply!
    I once told him that I would be with free time in the middle of the afternoon, and he ask me to come to his office (I’ve met his coworkers there), and we grab a coffee in a shop.
    I was the one who put him at arms length. He told me that he would like for me to come by his hose and invite me to dinner but he saw that I was clearly uneasy about that.

    I was the one that insisted in that we were just friends, even with all that sexual tension between us.

    I don’t think he’ll call me ever again. But even if he does, I don’t think I should accept to meet him again. The whole thing is clearly more upsetting to me than it was to him.

    #479004 Reply
    Lidia

    *to come by his house.

    #479009 Reply
    Lidia

    you said ” I’ve found that if a man is really into me – it almost didn’t matter what I said to him – nothing would upset him (for long at least) or make him run away”

    I’ve been out of reach from last saturday, so 6 days up until today. How much time is too much? How much is “for long”?

    #479010 Reply
    Maria

    So Lidia, you were the one to keep him at an arm’s length and yet you yelled at him over voice mail while he was on his 2-week vacation for not giving you enough of his attention? Then you apologized in such a way that I, as a woman, would feel overwhelmed by. Sorry, don’t mean to be harsh, but not everything about your feelings and how YOU feel.

    And now you think he was too harsh with you for not forgiving you. Why does he owe you forgiveness? He has his emotional needs and interests at stake, he wants to have a light time, not heavy time. He is most likely afraid to get involved emotionally, so he preferred to walk away now, and this will be the advice we would give to a woman, if the roles were reversed. It is better to walk away and find something that does not need to be fixed than get sucked into a less-than-optimal situation.

    If you focus less on how you feel and more on how to make things work and give him time, you might still be able to salvage this relationship, if you really like him.

    Someone said that no matter what you do or say if a guy is into you, he will continue to be into you. I have to disagree with that. If you start acting like a freak (not talking about you, just saying in general), most guys will stop being into you.

    #479013 Reply
    kaye

    Wait…I’m sorry. I must have missed the part where you said you were just friends and there was no intimacy. I thought you were dating this guy or in a relationship when I gave my advice. And then you start talking about being jealous and having feelings and not knowing how to deal with them. Why would any guy put up with this kind of drama and you getting all emotional and pouring your feelings out to him when YOU were the one who wanted this to be “just friends?”

    #479029 Reply
    Jessica

    The issue here is that it’s not clear whether you two were just friends or dating. Your text when he was on vacation was a GF type text – yet, you previously indicated to him through your actions that you wanted just friendship. It’s unclear how much he pursued you because as you said you made it clear that you were just friends. So I don’t think we can really gauge how this man feels or the potential to repair things.

    I think you should evaluate what you want and how you see a relationship starting/growing etc. so that you can express your desires when you first meet someone. I think communication is key – and it seems that you and he had a nice time together but it was all light and friendly and nothing deep or intimate. You cannot expect a man to treat you as an intimate (I don’t mean this in the sex way) when you have held him at arms length.

    As far as being able to say whatever to a man who is into me – of course I mean within reason – not acting all crazy or needy – but I’ve had my moments with my BF and my ex – and they/we always got over it quickly. My BF knows I am not crazy – so the good outweighs any moments of weakness – and there is a lot of give and take. I think if a man knows you respect him – he will respect you, even during your weak moments.

    Since it seems to me that you two were just friends – I think you’ve apologized. Now the best thing is to let him be and maybe he will contact you. If you want something more than friendship with this man in the future – I would stop shutting down all his advances – go out on a date with him if he asks. I think you were right not to go to his house – but you can still encourage him to be emotionally closer and take it slow on the physical side.

    #479031 Reply
    Lidia

    Exactly. That’s why when I talk with him that last time, I told him that it was all my fault. That I was the one that got confused and that I owe him an apology. I told him that I never felt that way and that I never acted that irrationally (which is true). I told him that I just freak out and that he was just being nice.

    Sadly, its true. I told him that I’ve never felt that way before, and I didn’t even realised that I felt that way up until I missed him “not like a friend”. I just realised that when I tried to understand why I was acting like a lunatic.

    I never said that this was his fault, it was all on my bloody part.

    #479033 Reply
    Lidia

    Yes, I just didn’t realised that up until it was too late.
    I don’t think he’ll call me again. I don’t know. How much should I wait till all hope is lost?

    I’m in a mess caused all by myself, I don’t deny that. I just hoped that he’ll let me explain face to face, and not shut me down that quick.

    #479060 Reply
    Shannon

    First of all, all hope is NEVER lost. I’ve heard from guys I’ve dated only once YEARS later, explaining that they liked me but weren’t over their ex yet, blah blah. However, if you’re sitting around just waiting with them on your mind you never hear from them. It seems you only hear from a guy you really want to hear from once he’s out of your head and his name is the last name you expect to see on your phone when your text message indicator goes off. So, my advice is to stop contacting him completely. Delete his number from your phone if you think you might reach out in a moment of weakness. (If you can…my I-Phone keeps reinstating contacts I’ve deleted. Thanks, I-Phone). And I agree with the other posters that you should stop having your friend keep tabs on whether or not he’s on the dating site. That can only hurt you, and my motto is always “what I don’t know can’t hurt me.” Best case scenario, the no contact will give him the space he needs to sort things out because I also agree that just out of a divorce, he’s probably not ready for anything serious. Worst case scenario…the no contact will help you forget about him and move on from him. Good luck!

    #479071 Reply
    redcurleysue

    I want you to imagine this. You end a long term love relationship and you are still piecing together what went wrong…you are starting to date and hang with people again and feel decent. You are on vacation with one of your GFs and BAM…the guy you were hanging with sends you a rude text out of the blue.

    The very first thing you are going to think is “Hey, I just got out of drama, and I am putting myself together…I don’t need this or want this.” Knee jerk reaction.

    So you got a bad taste in your mouth…you now associate the guy with drama you do not need at this time. He wants to explain….but you don’t want to deal with more drama of his explanation.

    You just want to chill and heal and be free and have fun. Now you know where he is coming from…and why he does not want to have a conversation.

    If I were you I would STOP and LEARN. Trying to fix this will only make it worse….you can see that can’t you?

    And stop being so angry at yourself…that will not help anything. The key is to figure out if you made any mistakes and correct them for the future…that is what life is all about.

    Live, laugh and enjoy life….take happiness with you and share it with others.

    #479096 Reply
    Laura

    Girls bond over dialogue…boys over interaction…you were bonding and sharing and he was passing time…I agree with most of the girls here that he wasn’t showing more with his actions…and probably because he was recovering from his divorce…when he is seeking you out to hang out and bond face to face then you may have a chance at reconnecting…but as long as it remains electronic communication…it will be this way…him on vacation and you waiting for a Bing on your cell phone…=/

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