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Jenna
sorry this is so long…I like to add details 😅
We actually used to date years ago. He moved out east and then I moved out of state years ago but we both came back home due to the quarantine.
We reconnected when we got back and decided to spend the day at the lake. The moment we saw each other it was like we hadn’t skipped a beat. After a few hours, he kissed me. We couldn’t keep our hands off each other (only g rated stuff). After he kissed me he admitted that he wanted to kiss me the moment he saw me. Our attraction was strong I knew we wouldn’t be able to keep things G-rated for so long. I told him I didn’t want a quarantine F-buddy. He laughed and said, “so you thought I contacted you so I could have sex with you? We have other people we could hang out with. I chose to come hang out with you”. We were a little buzzed and he said if I wanted to come out to NY where he’s at I could and invited me to his friend’s lake house. He just started throwing all this stuff out there that we could do lol. He then apologized for how he handled our relationship all those years ago. We ended up hanging out 9 hours that day.
So we kept hanging out and each time we got a little more handsy with one another. We ended up talking more about our childhood issues and some other heavy topics. I said again, how I didn’t want a quarantine f-buddy and he responded with, “we aren’t even having sex” and I said I didn’t plan on sleeping with him. He said that it was okay we didn’t have to do anything. He then turned to me and said, “you can’t even look me in the eyes when you’re talking to me”. I said pssh, yes I can I just have a hard time staying still. He said prove it, look at me in my eyes more than 10 seconds. Looking back that was probably a setup….
2 weeks ago he went to go visit some close friends that he hadn’t seen in years. He thought I went out of town (changed my plans) too. He said he would’ve asked me to go with him to visit his friends had he had known I wasn’t leaving. He suggested we take a little camping trip somewhere since I missed out on going with him to visit his friends. Later that week we went to go play miniature golf. Then we went to hang by the lake again where we ended up talking for hours. He turned to me and said, “you know you’re super into me”. I laughed and said, “or I was just bored during the quarantine and needed something to do and you were around”. In a laughing manner, he said, “oh yea, well me too. I was just bored. I’m glad we cleared that up”. We ended up having sex and afterward, I turned to him and patted his shoulder and said, “well I guess we’re officially f buddies now”. He didn’t say anything. We eventually just laid there while he stroked my arm and we just chilled like that for a while. I asked if he’s usually this touchy (it’s been so long since we dated I couldn’t remember) and he said, “yea when I feel connected”. He then started saying how I was cold but then corrected himself and said, “not cold, just guarded”. He ended up sending me the freezing face emoji and said that was me -_- lol.
A few days later he suggested we take a beach trip. On the day of the trip, he switched up where we going and said his sister and her friends were at this particular beach and that’s where we were going to go instead. On the 2.5 hour drive there he didn’t really talk. I kept trying to make conversation with him, to the point where it felt like forced small talk. It just ended up feeling awkward. He seemed a little off so I asked if he got agitated easily. He said sometimes he can and he asked if I thought he was agitated. I said, no, as I tend to overthink things and just let it go. We get there and the vibe between us was just so…off with us, at least in my mind. He usually is very touchy – coming up behind me, nuzzling my neck, etc., but that day barely anything. Not even a kiss. He just smacked my butt when I was reaching for something in the car lol and tried to toss me in the water but that was it. We said our goodbyes to his sister then headed back home and that’s when it kind of hit the fan.
On the drive back we started talking about his past anger issues. He asked me when was the last time I was really angry and I said a few months ago with my ex. Somehow that conversation went into earlier that day and I said, “yea I thought you were kind of agitated earlier” Y’all he was PISSED. He said, “I asked you earlier if thought I was agitated and you told me no. You tried to ask me in a slick way by asking if I get agitated easily instead of just asking me straight up. I’ve been lied to all my life (he’s got daddy issues) and I shouldn’t have to tell someone to keep things real with me. That’s the kind of stuff that pisses me off. I knew something was off, I could just feel the energy. Yea, I wasn’t talking much this morning and I knew you were trying to make conversation but you should’ve just told me”. I just sat there kind of shocked because I didn’t think it was all that serious? I told him I assumed he was agitated but I wasn’t sure so I just let it go.
He kind of calmed down and said, “I get that you weren’t trying to be confrontational but I wanted you to be straight up with me”. I just kept saying, “mmhmm”. He turned to me and said, “now I feel like you’re the one agitated” I said no you’re telling me how you feel and I’m just listening. He tried to crack a corny joke and I laughed and said, “this is why didn’t like you 4 years ago and why I don’t like you now”. He turned and said, “I’m getting bad vibes now. I’m not trying to make you feel bad. Did I make you feel bad?” I said, honestly yea a little bit. He apologized. This was all happening as he was pulling up to my car. I hop out and he starts putting my beach things in my car and I hand him his snacks that I put in my bag. He said, “you don’t want to keep them?” I said no and kind of stood there. We gave each other an awkward hug then I went home.
He texted me the next day asking how I was feeling and I said, “ehhh..you?”. I figured everything was all good since he made contact the next day. He replied and said he wasn’t drinking anymore. I felt physically felt awful that day and didn’t respond to him until 8 hours later. I told him I just woke up and that I wasn’t feeling well. He responded 24 hours later and completely changed the topic and started talking about a show. We texted on and off for the next day and I eventually face-timed him. He didn’t pick up.
I haven’t heard from him in 3 days, but he’s looked at in my insta stories. We talked pretty much every day so not hearing from him is odd. I thought since we were hanging out 8-10 hours each time and talking almost every day our FWB was going well. Him getting that angry and I guess disappearing/ignoring me just really threw me off.
Is he angry or lost interest/just over being FWB already?
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NewbieFirst you sound hostile. So im not sure what part of the fwb arrangment is going well for you because it sure isnt the communication part. Sometimes playing being abrasive can work but i doubt its working here. I dont really understand what you want from this. Both of you have a guard up and sort of attack each other. It really doesnt sound fun to me at all. I had a fwb when i was in my twenties and sometimes we argued but most of the times we liked each other and respected each other. With you it looks like you put up a i dont care attitude to protect yourself. When it comes to how he feels. I guess undecided. Those convo’s in the car were weird and probably not fun. You dont go to whats not fun
JennaHow do I sound hostile? We tease each other a lot and then we end up talking about serious things.
The thing in the car…I don’t know what that was. I didn’t expect, and still don’t understand why he got so upset.
Why are you saying his guard is up too? I just thought we both viewed this as a fling.
SsThe way i read it, you don’t want this to be a fling at all. You repeatedly told him you didn’t want a fwb thing (which was unnecessary and he blatantly saw it for the bait and switch it was) then you end up having sex anyway. After sex you think he is being off bc he isn’t talkative in the car, so again you try to manipulate by asking if he still gets agitated/angry which probably felt like an attack to him rather than how you meant it which i assume was your way of asking if things are ok but not being direct.
The whole day gets awkward bc of this and then you make it worse by saying you didn’t like him 4 years ago and don’t now. You were trying to joke and put him in his place but succeeded in pi**ing him off more.
You say you thought fwb was going well… but you also said you didn’t want fwb and if you did want fwb then what you’ve been doing isn’t fwb… it’s casual dating and you clearly want more.
Sometimes a bit of teasing is flirty but too much teasing just pi**es guys off. You’ve not come across how i think you intended at all.
Decide what you want and see what he wants and be real about it- no silly pretend tough girl hostility stuff. Your behaviour has come off as quite immature and i think he is probably confused by your actions or fed up with them
JennaNo, I wasn’t trying to do a bait and switch.
I thought it would just be a one and done hang out. I just knew if we kept hanging out that it would get to that point (sex) and I expressed that to him. That’s when I said that I didn’t want to get physical. I just wanted to keep things friendly and that’s what I meant by not a fwb.
He’s eventually going back to his side of the country so I assumed that this would just be a fling.
JennaWhat I don’t get is…after the incident over the weekend he contacted me and seemed fine for the next couple of days.
NewbieYeah i wouldnt consider this as more than a fling. more like hatesex. Clearly you have no idea how you come across. Ss gets the same vibe. If i have sex with a guy and he told me he didnt like me 4 years ago and still doesnt, i wouldnt be able to see that as a joke. Those kinds of lines can work when you have a deep knowledge of each other which you dont. And even then i dont think its funny. Like i said youre acting hostile with the way you talk to him. So to me its not surprising he doesnt want to run into you again. Im sorry. Maybe you need to work on being your true self instead of a bad comedian
JennaNewbie,
You don’t seem to get that’s how we joke. He joked about ghosting me again. He knows that I’m teasing. We were talking days after that night so clearly the joke didn’t bother him.
NewbieYeah i got that already
EmNewbie I think you’re being too harsh on OP. They clearly have some sadistic humor. If someone joked about ghosting me I wouldn’t care for that either, but clearly these two think it’s funny.
My issue is he knew she was trying to communicate with him and he still wasn’t really talkative. Then why the heck would he invite you on a beach trip if he wasn’t going to talk? That’s off putting and sets the tone the for the day. It’s no wonder things were off. Then he blew up because of a harmless question? Which was such an overreaction btw.
So let me get the timeline straight. You all go on the trip, he’s not talking, gets upset with you, then you crack the 4 years ago joke, he contacts you the next day, and the following day too?
If the joke bothered him that much I don’t think he’d initiate contact multiple times after the fact and still check your social media. You did mention he’s got daddy issues and Father’s Day is coming up…maybe something is going on there?
NewbieHow can i be the harsh one if im talking to someone who thinks those were funny jokes? Im saying both are hiding behind these jokes and for Jenna, i dont see this working. You didnt want a fling, you did have a fling and now the fling went silent. What do you really want? Thats the key
EmI’m saying you’re being too harsh for laying all the blame on OP and saying she needs to work on herself for being a “bad comedian”. Like I said, if he was so put off by the jokes I highly doubt he’d text OP asking how was she feeling.
But you are saying that it’s clear that neither this guy nor OP truly want a FWB, correct? If so, I do agree with that. When he said, “I know you’re super into me” that was him projecting and wanting you to confirm. FWB steer clear from any discussion about feelings. He wanted more than fwb.
NewbieNo em, im not putting blame on op and i do apologize if it looks like that. Im stating this is a situation where you see cause and effect. And im only adressing the op’s point of view since she is here and the guy isnt. Im only inclined to adress a guy if he is abusive or a clown. Title of this threat: i think i pissed of my fwb. Is he over it already? So even Jenna herself thinks her behaviour has someting to do with the current situation. Answer from me: i think its due to how you both communicate with each other.none of you seem honest in the way you interact. So then i get the response ‘but this is how we are’. Which i find weird by itself since its a short thing after not seeing each other for years. But if this is how you are, there shouldnt be a problem. And you shouldnt be posting here. You see my perspective? Its actually trying to help but maybe the words clouded that
JennaNewbie,
Thank you for clearing that up. I see what you’re saying. I get why you’re saying that I’m not being honest with how I communicate, but how is he not being honest about it either?
NewbieWell his statement: youre so into me alone to me says that he is not honest. Thats to provoke you. Example 1
Im bored, good we cleared that up example 2.
I do see a few honest moments too: he apologized for how he handled the relationship, he admits he has anger issues, he said you are cold.
Anyway i do really advice to lose the sarcasm a bit as it does stand in the way of forming a bond, whether its for a fling, friendship or more. My man likes some abuse from me but we been together for over 5 years now. So i do understand the jokes but they dont fit the moment in time you are atJennaSo you’re saying him, “I know you’re into me” was him trying to provoke me to stroke his ego?
Yea, I’ll definitely ease up with the sarcasm. He said recently that I use sarcasm to deflect and avoid so he knows that she sees right through it.
NewbieI cant say 100% for sure what he means. Its either he is insecure, or he is too confident. The one thing i can tell is he saus nothing about himself and thats the telling part.
I personally also think that this is maybe not the best guy to lose rhe sarcasm with, since you have a history and he is deflecting himself. I am sorry about the bad comedian comment. I could have said it nicer. I have a long history of hiding myself not as a comedian but as ‘the strong one, the one who can do it all’ and it didnt serve me at all. If i would have made myself vunerable way sooner, i think in general i would have had a life with more love in it. So thats the nice part of my message to youJennaYea, I can relate to being too guarded. With him since I know we’re on borrowed time I’m trying to keep him at arms length.
As far as his being into comment I do remember years ago he was buzzed and got really close to my face and asked me if he was my “number one”. I laughed and said yes he was. Then he went it how he didn’t want me seeing other guys blah blah blah. 2 days later he said how he didn’t think this was a good idea. We stopped talking for weeks and then he came back and apologized saying he messed up and missed me. But that was then when were falling for each other. I assumed since he didn’t have feelings this go around he wouldn’t act weird.
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