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  • #940623 Reply
    Nena

    Hi there,

    I have been dating a guy for three weeks. We saw each other 3 times, was great, and we had sex this last weekend.
    He is looking for a serious relationship as I am, but confessed to me that he had been rejected many times while dating and that now has a lack of confidence. We have usually been communicating through text, in the morning, once/twice during the day and usually a good night text etc… He showed much of interest since the beginning, until we had sex. Since then, he still texted me but not so much (2, 3 times a day) and when I asked him if it was all ok he said he is a bit sick and has much of work. but he also said my last good night text was a bit cold (which was true).
    Yesterday I told him to text when he would feel better, this morning he wished me a good day, I replied thank you, and then nothing.
    Is he slow fading me or is he testing me for having been hurt and cheated on in the past? Also I have to mention that he told me he isn’t dating someone else as he likes to concentrate on one person at the time to see if there is potential. He is open to communication, and used to ask me how I felt about him after each date, but since this weekend, he didn’t ask…

    There is one last detail to this: when he came to my home this weekend, we had sex pretty late in the night and then we went of the sofa for a while, we fell asleep and when we woke up at 3am, he said he better go home as he had to wake up at 8 in the morning. Why didn’t he want to sleep with me as I proposed him?

    What do you think?

    #940624 Reply
    Tallspicy

    Oh honey. We don’t know.

    But, why are you sleeping with someone at three dates and has not committed to your exclusivity? Only dating one person at a time is not the same.

    Also, you don’t ask a man if everything is ok when they are contacting you 3 times a day (I hope you are letting him do most of the initiating)

    You don’t know anything about this man. Don’t be sleeping with men until they are clear you are the only person they are seeing because there is something there. And you watch what they do after sex, which in this case is to pull back a little. That is not a great sign, but could be neutral… is he trying to spend time with you? Has he arranged your next date? If not, I suggest you pull way way back emotionally and physically and let him do the work for the next 3-4 get togethers. That is the only way to know

    #940625 Reply
    Tallspicy

    You think you know this person, but you don’t. Men show commitment by words and actions being consistent over time. Anything that is not consistent should be seen as the less committed of the two as truth.

    Honestly, why are you this invested in someone you have met 3 times? That is on you, not him. Watch observe and decide if what he is giving is enough

    #940626 Reply
    Nena

    He didn’t ask me out yet because he knows this week I’m staying with my son, and therefore not available. I’m not being to invested, even not that much into him for the moment. I’m just trying to figure out whether he is trying to pull away so I can properly respond. Or maybe he is not and that is just how men tend to act after first intimacy? (It’s been four days now) Also I have to say I never initiate contact and never did, but these days he doesn’t keep the conversation going.

    #940627 Reply
    Maddie

    He sounds like he’s insecure and in his head. It’s actually a red flag when a guy asks you after every single date how you feel about him. He needs constant validation to not spin out because his own issues make him unable to just be okay with himself. This usually does lead to testing and other dysfunctional behaviors, and eventually self sabotage in the name of self protection (it’s going to keep being all about him and his projection of you instead of being about you for who you actually are).

    I don’t know if he’s fading out on you or not, but I’d consider bailing if he becomes inconsistent in his words and behaviors from here on out. Especially after sex. Because it either means he’s not emotionally mature enough for a serious relationship or he’s not interested enough in showing up for one, no matter what he may have said about wanting one.

    #940628 Reply
    Daisy

    Hard to say, but just thinking back to whenever I started stressing over whether the guy was backing away, I was right every time and he eventually ended it or ghosted. Definitely trust your instincts. But I would let it play out and see what happens, how much effort he continues to make.

    #940636 Reply
    Ewa

    he isn’t slow fading, he is gone.
    When a guy tells you he is looking for serious relationship, it doesn’t mean with you, men know this is what women want to here so they say it and then poof he sleeps with you and he’s gone.
    If he was after serious relationship he wouldn’t be sleeping with on a 3rd date , he would happily wait.
    Point is he didn’t ask you out again , so he is no longer interested. And certainly he is not open to communication because if he was a decent guy he would communicate, but instead he is telling you , you are cold so you are starting to blame yourself for his fading.

    #940637 Reply
    Nena

    Yes he might be gone…
    He texted me this morning: hello how are you? How was your day yesterday?
    Now what should I do? Stay silent? Or what should I respond?

    #940638 Reply
    Ewa Czopowska

    you can reply , see if he is going to make any plans for when you are free, but don’t ask him out. Regardless I would suggest to date others , which might not be easy when we click with someone but that way you won’t be too obsessed with one guy.

    #940639 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    Why would you not respond when he’s texted you hello and asked how you are?

    I agree that things don’t look good and this guy may be pulling away, but ignoring his texts and being distant will definitely push him away.

    He initiated contact, so you should reply warmly. Don’t initiate a date, but be warm and responsive when he reaches out. See if he asks to see you again. Has he taken you out on proper dates? That’s the kind of thing to look for.

    I agree that men should do the majority of the initiating in the first stages of dating, but I think women sometimes play hard to get and that causes men to lose interest. This situation is a perfect example. You were anxious because you hadn’t heard from him, so when he contacts you, you ignore him? That makes no sense. You’ll definitely never see him again if you don’t respond to him.

    #940640 Reply
    Nena

    I did respond after one hour or so… I replied my day (yesterday) was long but good and I asked him whether he celebrated his birthday yesterday (which I gratulated him for yesterday). He replied he didn’t do nothing. He isn’t feeling good and neither has desire for anything right now…

    I replied: ” I understand, but I sense that something is off, so why not just leave it here…”

    To which he replied: “So the other day when you needed some time for yourself, I should have said the same to you? But its ok, don’t worry, I will not bother you anymore. Have a good day.”

    He pointed out the fact that last week, one evening, we were texting but I told him that I needed some me time and wished him goodnight early. I mean there is a huge difference between what I said about my “me time” for one evening or for him needing 5 days or more.. His texting consistency clearly changed in the last 5 days and when he text isn’t not warm or funny anymore, its short and not flirty or friendly.

    Maybe I did a mistake but my last response to his text was:
    “I think you are trying to turn tables, that was a very different situation. Deeply, I think you wanted me to say to leave it there. So its done now… have a good day. ”

    To which he didn’t reply and unfriended me from Facebook, maybe he even blocked me!! HURRAY!!

    Was I right doing so?

    #940643 Reply
    Raven

    Right / wrong, who knows?

    He obviously wasn’t the right guy for you…

    #940644 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    Yeah, this is way too much drama for a guy you’ve seen 3 times. If it were meant to be, you’d be clicking and things would be flowing well. So he’s clearly not the one for you. Just let it go and forget about him.

    #940645 Reply
    Maddie

    This wasn’t a good match for you and I’d forget about him. But in the future, try not to jump to assumptions and conclusions either. He told you twice that he’s been sick this week, which if he didn’t even celebrate his birthday is probably true. When he has reached out to you after intimacy, you were defensive and tried to mindread if he was pushing you away until you simply assumed he was, and then you took that assumption and said let’s leave it here. Even though he was still messaging you, whether or not it was a little less than before (which, again, makes sense if he was sick).

    I still think he has his own insecurities which wouldn’t have played out well, because I’ve never had a good experience with someone who wanted to check in about my feelings for him or attraction levels or whatever after every early date. And maybe he was indeed withdrawing because he couldn’t handle when you said you needed a little space one day. But there’s some things to work out on your side as well: as Tallspicy said, you rushed into intimacy and then questioned him and if things were okay every time you spoke after that, and as Liz said, you were considering playing hard to get games of going silent when he was reaching out. After only meeting 3 times! So this was a bad match all around and wasn’t going to work out, but make sure you’re not getting too in your own head and making assumptions or sabotaging things when a better guy comes around.

    #940646 Reply
    Angel

    A rule of thumb that I go by recently if that I listened from somewhere, however they pull away you double that . Also, if he can go a day or almost the entire day (for days) without texting you it typically doesn’t work out.

    #940647 Reply
    Angel

    I read more……… he wanted an out, he left too easily and he wasn’t the one and that’s ok. What did you learn ? How can you apply it for future dating situations?
    Hopefully the sex was at least decent . If not ok good riddance. And if it was so what , you felt a lack of your needs being met.
    Ps . Insecure men are the worse to date , there projecting and you constantly trying to validate them will leave you drained.

    #940648 Reply
    Nena

    Hi Angel, What I learn is that a guy who doesn’t date anyone else isn’t more genuine just because of that. But still I’m having a hard time letting him win his slow fading. He even told me once that he isn’t the kind of guys doing it, he rather say things honestly as they are. But he did it anyway. Now I m trying to figure out how to prevent this to happen to me again. Or at least how to respond to a guy doing it to make him understand that isn’t not acceptable behavior. How can they go on doing it without any girl calling them out? I mean he gave me the feeling I have been loosing my time. I wasn’t expecting a commitment or anything so far, but just a willingness to pursue knowing each other or at least saying it would not work out, but with respect regarding the time I spent on him (3dates…)

    #940649 Reply
    Ewa

    you don’t call them out, you move on. I also feel like you might have been too quick to send him that text, I know it is very frustrating when you feel like something is off but he is not communicating but you should have waited until at least next week to see if he offers to meet up.
    Saying that you wouldn’t want to date insecure guy because you will never know where you stand.

    #940650 Reply
    Tallspicy

    Nena, this is going to feel harsh, but please hear me out:

    A. What men say is a wish said in the moment, not a promise, and it is your job to pay attention over time to if they follow through.
    B. You met this man 3 times. Please stop talking like you knew him at all. It takes months to know someone.
    C. He did nothing wrong. You chose to sleep with him early, and if you cannot handle someone leaving early, then you don’t do it. A man can break up with you, it does not make them a jerk or a narcissist or a bad person. Men can’t be sexed into a relationship and sex can mean nothing to them.
    D. Please look up insecure attachment. I think it will help you.
    E. Men hate hurting feelings and many are emotionally immature (women too), they show you their feelings with behavior when they can’t use words. He said the same thing with his actions.
    F. Your mindset and fear did create some of this. You were not responding from a place of warmth and vibrancy and self confidence. You were responding from responsiveness and that never ever ever helps.

    #940651 Reply
    Nena

    I have been quick, I agree, but I think it’s because it wasn’t there, and I wasn’t willing to spend more time on him by giving him the benefit of the doubt. Would he have pursued stronger, or at least consistently, I would have given it a try.
    Now I think it was more an ego matter than true interest towards him. Also i have heard the ‘I’m sick’ excuse so many times, it annoyed me as hell, even more coming out from him…

    JUST MOVE ON…. OMG I cannot understand this concept.
    By just moving on when guys fade, you kinda leave their bad behaviour without consequences. I mean all girls do that, they just move on, and that’s all men want, its so easy, no consequences… Guys even think some girls don’t care about it. If we girls decided to not accept this behavior or call them out for it maybe, they would just become a bit more respectful. They do it because we allow them to do so… We give of our time to meet someone, we build some connection, and pouff, suddently, everything disappears!!! The one who was open to communicate with you about his interest, isn’t capable to tell you he changed his mind… They just leave you wondering whether you misread everything from the beginning and therefore we become suspicious about everybody. (Goes for girls too) And this for me is unhealthy and makes people trying to protect themself playing games or acting cold and it’s just a reflect of the rotten society we live in. No one has the balls to call people out, and we just go on with our resentments. And the day the right person comes along, you push him away because of all this BS you had to deal with… it’s a cycle…

    #940652 Reply
    Ewa

    and you really think , you telling him how you felt, will make him change his ways? seriously?
    I have had friends who did this, they were telling men off every time something didn’t work out like they wanted and they either don’t reply , which makes you more frustrated or they say yeah i am sorry and that’s it. It takes years to change someone’s behaviour and it only works when someone wants it.
    Saying that it was your choice to sleep with him on 3rd date, how about you teach yourself to wait?
    It also shows that you were hurt by his actions and sorry but you’ve only met him 3 times , so you are either very sensitive or you have this thing where you can’t live with the fact that he didn’t want you, which unfortunately a lot of women have. Always reverse the situation, if you went out with someone 3 times and you rejected that guy and he started telling you how your behaviour made him feel, what would you think of him? and what would you think of yourself? would you think yeah ok next times i’ll be different ? I doubt it
    I also doubt he had the intention to hurt you, leave you confused. Men go on dates looking for sex/companionship, men don’t go out looking for relationship. Relationships happen to them.

    #940653 Reply
    Nena

    To Tallspicy, the harsh one ;-)

    A. I don’t think I have been talking about him not wanting to pursue or changing his mind was an issue as I wasn’t that into him anyway.
    B. We do met 3 time, I don’t know him at all, looks like he isn’t very mature.
    C. He did nothing wrong until I sensed him fading away >> which is my issue here and can’t deal with this ghosting technique. who said he cannot change his mind? I’m ok with it.
    D. I do have a kind of insecure attachment style and know how to deal with it. Thank you for your concern.
    E. They hate hurt feelings, but I think they know ghosting is even more hurtful…
    F. Why would you be warm in this case? Are you doormat?

    I do have insecure attachment, I might expect too much from people, I might not understand distant behaviors BUT perhaps someday I will find my match and we will click. But meanwhile I will not change my expectations and feign indiference just because thats what is expected in dating nowadays.

    #940654 Reply
    Ewa

    I will tell you my personal story about modern dating and why men and women ghost. when I was in my 20s I dated guys just because I liked it, I never had any intentions of being with them, but they knew about it, however they still had hope. So when I was ending things I always messaged or said in person why I cannot continue seeing them and some guys were great but most were not. The amount of abuse I got after being honest, some even demanded I pay them back for the date, called me all sorts of names . it got to the point that I was scared to tell someone that I am no longer interested so I started ghosting. And most guys never texted me again , some did , and this is when I said I am sorry but this isn’t for me.

    #940655 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    This guy clearly had issues (insecurity for one) and it’s a waste of your energy to try to call him out or confront him on it. You barely knew the guy. As others have said, do you really think he’ll seriously think about what you said and change? Why would he do that for a woman he barely knows? From what you said he blocked you anyway, so he’s clearly not open to listening to anything you have to say.

    You’d be better off investing that energy in yourself. Don’t waste time fuming over this guy. You say you have insecure attachment, the best thing you can do is address that and work on it. If you were more secure in yourself you wouldn’t be so rattled over something like this. You would know that the way someone behaves in the first stages of dating is all about them and not about you. It would be easier to write the guy off and move on. Yes, it’s disappointing, but the guy clearly would not make a good partner so you should consider yourself lucky it ended quickly.

    #940656 Reply
    mama

    “just move on”….

    it’s a mindful decision YOU MAKE that you are rising above other’s issues and have no time to deal with other’s bullsh***.

    Rise above, let it go, find someone who cares about you. You will know when that happens because the guy will be all in.

    You can’t MAKE someone love you — especially with any strongly worded letter — and why would you want someone like that anyway? Why try to guilt someone into being with you?

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