Is Kissing Intimate For Guys? (FWB Question)


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  • #666200 Reply
    Confused

    I wasn’t really sure what to name this topic, sorry.

    But I just want to get some opinions here on this. I kind of noticed from experience that making out seems to be intimate for guys and most don’t do it if it’s just a friends with benefits or casual hook-up situation. I have a close friend I used to like two years ago but gotten over. We hooked up a few times back then and he never kissed me on the mouth then. He had a gf afterwards so we stopped hooking up and now that he is single again, we started hanging out more and hooking up again… Except the last time we hooked up last week, it felt more intimate because he actually started kissing me during and afterwards before he left, when we were saying goodbye. Now I’m confused and the next day I couldn’t get him out of my head and felt something.

    #666215 Reply
    Hannah

    I’ve had one night stands and FWBs and kissed all of them. For me, kissing is a big part of foreplay and I don’t even know how you’d get to sex without having kissed.

    I don’t know in this case because the guy never kissed you before, but normally men do kiss in every sexual situation except with some prostitutes that don’t allow it. You don’t think he’s been using “paid services” so you and that’s why he didn’t kiss you, because he’s got used to not kissing the woman? I don’t think for most men it’s that intimate but maybe for this man it is.

    Anyway I wouldn’t read anything into it. He’ll make it clear if he’s developing feelings for you.

    #666219 Reply
    Confused

    I agree with you on kissing being a part of foreplay. It is for me too. But some of my friends with benefits haven’t done that and it’s been harder for me to have sex when kissing isn’t a part of it.

    #666233 Reply
    Joe

    Men bond by doing fun things with a woman who has a pleasant personality. And men hate drama. So if you’re going out together more often and both enjoying the moments (apart from sex), there’s more of a chance he would catch deeper feelings for you.

    Curious as to how long ago you started seeing each other again?

    #666236 Reply
    Confused

    Yeah, we hang out and go out. We started seeing each other again beginning of September. But we did hang out before then too on occasion, just haven’t slept together since December of 2015 until again in September of this year.

    #666238 Reply
    Confused

    And ever since we slept together again in September, he has been texting me almost daily asking to hang out, to see me, to come over and cuddle, to lunch, telling me he misses me, telling me he’s thinking about me… He used to not ever do that before.

    #666240 Reply
    Jan

    Your real question here is if he is catching feelings for you beyond fwb. Kissing is not necessarily a sign. And I can see you are trying to look for signs as opposed to having a conversation with him. You know him long enough. Ask him what his intentions are and if this is more of the same, meaning fwb, or if you are actually dating now. That’s the only way to know . Women seem to get too caught up in trying to translate what different actions or inactions mean. Most times their translation is wrong. In this case,he may just assume you are both back in a fwb. In fact many fwb can look very much like real relationships. So ask. Otherwise I think you are in for real hurt if you find out months down the road he was just killing time with you.

    #666241 Reply
    Joe

    Wow..it sounds like he really likes you a lot. But it’s only been 2 months since you’ve starting hanging out and having sex, so don’t get overly excited. Some things I want to add: Don’t ever ask him to text more often and don’t bombard him with texts or drag out text conversations. And don’t grill him about his feelings. Just be the happiest person when you see him and be very affectionate. Good luck:)

    #666242 Reply
    Joe

    It’s too early to ask him his intentions toward you as Jan suggested!

    #666245 Reply
    Confused

    I never text him first, he always initiates it. I’m just trying to go with the flow.

    #666247 Reply
    Hannah

    Well I would say the fact he calls you and wants to be around you all the time is more important than the kissing.

    I would carry on going with the flow and see what happens. There’s a chance you’ll catch feelings and he won’t, but you take that risk with any relationship. Give him another 2 months or so and ask him where you stand if he hasn’t made it clear by then.

    #666250 Reply
    Jan

    I disagree. She has known this man for two years and his isn’t their first get together. They were fwb last time. Many men come back for the same. So I think it’s very appropriate that if she doesn’t want fwb this time, that she makes that clear up front. This isn’t a new situation or person. Many times men will revert back to a woman like this when he has nothing else going on and the companionship is known and easy. So you can carry on and see what happens, but to me this is like rekindling a relationship after a break up. Find out if he wants to try for a dating situation, or if he just assumes he is sliding back in for more of what he had before. Women are so afraid to tell a man what she wants. And that’s the very reason they end up getting hurt.

    #666252 Reply
    Joe

    Jan, this guy is treating her much differently than he did the last time. Actions speak louder than words, right? Hannah and I agree as to how this particular situation should be handled at the moment. If she creates too much drama this early on, she will scare him away.

    #666254 Reply
    Jan

    Joe
    Your opinion or Hannah’s isn’t any better than mine. And we all know and have said many times that you cannot scare away a man that really wants to be with you.
    Second, we all know how many women come on here on a daily basis confused because her fwb treats her like a gf. And when they ask, the man admits he still only wants a fwb. And it’s not just actions that speak for themselves. It’s when actions and words match. Right now there are no words that go along with the actions.
    The OP admits they just started ‘hooking up again’ and her only measure of difference is that he kisses her now? So that’s supposed to mean something? He has had more sexual experience in two years. It may just mean he now incorporates that into his sex acts.
    OP will do what she wants. But this is backward advice in my opinion based on the fact that they were only fwb u tip he found a gf. Now the gf is gone and he is back again for companionship and sex. I would be asking why he is back. Not just doing same old.

    #666255 Reply
    Jan

    And I didn’t advocate drama. Where did that come from? When someone comes back into your life, why is it dramatic to want to understand their reason for coming back? And if OP isn’t wanting fwb anymore, why would she just jump back in with an ex fwb?

    #666256 Reply
    Joe

    Jan, her words were;”And ever since we slept together again in September, he has been texting me almost daily asking to hang out, to see me, to come over and cuddle, to lunch, telling me he misses me, telling me he’s thinking about me… He used to not ever do that before.”

    It’s true you usually can’t scare a man away if he wants to be with a woman, but it’s too early to tell at this point. It takes some time for a man to be very sure he wants to be with her. When he’s confident that they are compatible, he will usually ask her to be his girlfriend and commit to her..

    #666257 Reply
    Joe

    Drama is when you pressure a guy to answer the question; where is this going? when the guy doesn’t even know yet!

    #666258 Reply
    Confused

    I’m not even sure that I would want to be more than FWB with him. He has cheated on like three of his girlfriends that I know of…. I think I deserve better. LOL

    #666259 Reply
    Jan

    We can agree to disagree. All I miss saying is that many many fwb look like real relationships. And the woman will even say, he texts all the time, cuddles, etc. no harm in going with th flow but if he doesn’t make her a gf in another month I would ask. Given their history, if a man came back to me after having a previous fwb situation, if I didn’t want more of the same I would tell him up front that I am not looking for a fwb again. So if that’s what he wants, I am not his girl. I don’t understand how you can start seeing a person again without having any discussion about what you had in the past and what you are looking for moving forward. For all we know at this point, she is a rebound.

    #666261 Reply
    Jan

    You don’t even want him as a bf? Then what is your issue? He’s a cheater. Has only a history of fwb with you. So what he kissed you? Well that was a waste of advice.

    #666262 Reply
    Confused

    But I’m fine with being FWB with him. I couldn’t be in a relationship with him, I already know it wouldn’t work. I’m just confused cuz he’s acting differently this time around.

    #666268 Reply
    Joe

    Jan, yes what a waste of time and advice! Your ideas were good too, but she’s happy with FWB, lol. So she’s confused, so what and what does it even matter now? I hate these posts that seem to start off one way, then dribble out a little more, and it turns out it’s something different.

    Confused, be happy with your FWB or dump him.

    #666272 Reply
    Jan

    Lol! Agree joe. To the OP. Just stop kissing him!

    #666277 Reply
    Lane

    You need to take the ‘resistor role’. I always take this role because its impossible to read minds or know what someone’s intentions are without outright asking them. The problem with that though is they may not know that answer yet so its best to carefully LISTEN to what they SAY and are NOT SAYING because actions without words are meaningless. I can dig a hole but if I don’t tell you WHY I’m digging it then your imagination takes over to try to fill in the blanks and oftentimes its completely wrong when you have no other facts or information to work with.

    In this case BELIEVE THE NEGATIVE and IGNORE THE POSITIVE. What it means is you need to ignore all the positive signs, like your doing here, and carefully listen and observe the negative ones as that will reveal their true state of mind. Has he said anything along the lines of “I’m not looking for a relationship”? or “I enjoy your company?” or intentionally been completely silent on this? Those are the NEGATIVES you need to HEED because that’s where he’s at mentality, just killing time, and until you have more detailed information to work with, then what you have is all you have.

    I definitely had this conversation with my current BF, whom I had a prior fling with for a few months. Nine months later he came back to our port (works on a ship) and I went into it with the exact same mentality—we’ll have fun for a bit, he’ll leave, and I’ll get back to my busy life. The second time however was different, after he left he kept pursuing me and I asked him very directly “what’s changed since the first time?” and he answered “I’m in a different place now, I can’t get you out of mine and don’t want to lose you.” Trust me, I was very resistant because I wasn’t going to waste my time, energy or attention on a guy who was killing time until he found something better….I have too much pride to allow that.

    Over several months I CAREFULLY listened to his words and observed his actions by focusing on any negatives and ignoring the positives. To this day he has been consistent in his words and actions because I resisted and he had to step up in a very big way to PROVE that he wasn’t yanking my chain. He’s opened up far more than I have, “is glad we’re on the same page”, “wants to be with me and only me”; “would never do anything to hurt me”, and “is so happy I gave him a chance to be with him”—-all in his own words, which are followed up by ACTIONS as he pampers and showers me with attention and affection when were together.

    If I were you I would RESIST the temptation to go down the same path you did before. Your prior history is much different than someone you just met and getting to know. I would definitely put it out there, like I did, and get clarity on his intentions before you proceed further! Trust me, your going to get really hurt if you misread all these signs!

    #666279 Reply
    Hannah

    Why does it matter what he thinks if you’re not interested in a relationship?! That’s a lot of emotional energy to spend on a FWB. Just let him do his own thing and don’t worry about it.

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