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May 10, 2020 at 11:42 pm #790764Jane
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I’ve been seeing this guy for about 2 months. I really like him.
I know he called her a few weeks ago. He told me couldn’t find something of his so he called her and asked her if she had it, apparently she told him no, she didn’t have it. The next day I saw that he texted her the next day and asked her again if she had a chance to look again (I was using his laptop and his message threads appear on his Mac). Then the next day he was laughing at something. He had sent her a video of these puppies. I figured they were just friends/friendly?
A few days ago he had liked this post that said, “50% miss you, 50% f%ck you.” Today she texted him saying tell your mom I said happy Mother’s Day for me and he responded, “Will do. Please do the same for me.” I’ll admit I kind of peeked over when he was texting and saw this.
Backstory: I know they wanted to get married, he was saving up for a ring, and they broke up due to arguing. He initiated the breakup 3 months ago. Oh, and they started following each other again on social media about a month ago.
Are they just friends/friendly?
May 10, 2020 at 11:54 pm #790766cupcakeYeah, im sorry but this sounds like they are in the process of getting back together. They were engaged and only broken up for 3 months, so i doubt either has moved on. Sorry to be harsh but I suspect he considers you a rebound/placeholder, until he can get his fiance back. I d def. move on from this situation
May 10, 2020 at 11:59 pm #790767Jane@cupcake
Why do you think they’ll get back together? You can love someone but not want them back.
May 11, 2020 at 12:44 am #790769RavenYou are in rebound city limits…
May 11, 2020 at 12:51 am #790771cupcakeIt s what i gather from the information you have provided. They broke up a serious relationship (engagement?) only three months ago but are already super friendly and familiar again. Unless their relationship had been burnt out for a long time and their separation was mutual and amicable (which it doesn’t seem like it was), they very very likely still have romantic feelings for one another. You don’t go from wanting to marry someone to breaking up over arguing to being just chums in 3 months…all while sincerely pursuing a new romantic interest. Sorry, don’t believe it. And i doubt you do either, otherwise you wouldn’t be suspicious and post about it here.
And even if they had no intention of getting back together. You are still in rebound territory very badly. And lets face it rebound situations never end well.
May 11, 2020 at 1:08 am #790772KimJane wake up and smell the roses babe! This guy is not over his ex. He’s only been dating you a few months. As Cupcake has mentioned he’s just fresh out of a serious relationship. He’s still in contact with his ex. It’s a big red flag. Get out of the situation before you’re any deeper into it.
May 11, 2020 at 1:15 am #790773JaneKim,
I guess since we’re just casually dating I wasn’t too worried at first.
My line of thinking is, if he wanted her back wouldn’t he just do it?
May 11, 2020 at 1:48 am #790774cupcakeHe seems to be in the process to try and get her back. Slowly rekindling stuff. That s most likely why he is keeping you as “only” a casual hook up. I don’t know what you are looking for but if its a relationship this ain’t the guy for you.
May 11, 2020 at 8:33 am #790787mell@Cupcake is right. 3 months is not enough time for romantic feelings to fizzle after a break up, unless they were both basically over it way before they broke up. There’s no such thing as being platonic friends straight after the breakup of a serious relationship. if he had acted like that with a completely platonic friend – it wouldn’t be a problem. But she’s his recent fiance. Cupcake is right – you just can’t go through that much emotional progress in a couple of months.
Look at the facts. He found an excuse to message her over something minor (did he really need to message her to find some trinket? Most peopel would rather just buy a new one than call a recent ex)? Did he need to message her again when she said she didn’t have it? Did they need to start sharing puppy videos? Did they need to wish each other’s mothers, when they are broken up? That’s a lot of unnecessary contact that most people wouldn’t have with recent exes – unless there were feelings involved.
@Jane, ‘if he wanted her, wouldn’t he just have her’ works for say, reassuring yourself a boyfriend doesn’t want his childhood friend. Yes, if people have had time, then you’ll know that they would have done something if they really wanted it. But It can’t be applied to a fiance he broke up with 3 months ago – 3 months is nothing. And as you see – he is trying to have her. How do you think people get back together after a break up? This is exactly how it starts – with testing the water, and starting up chat and once people feel comfortable that they aren’t likely to be rejected – they make ti more formal. He;s just keeping you around as an insurance policy.
You’re just ignoring the evidence because you hope that it can be written off. And you might not accept it until he literally tells you “X and I are getting back together again”.
You can stay in this situation, but there’s a very high chance you’re going to get burned.
May 11, 2020 at 9:08 am #790791Liz LemonHe called her to ask if she had something of his, and she said no. So he contacted her again the next day to ask if she had looked for it again. Then they start sharing puppy videos and wishing each others Moms a happy Mothers Day. Yeah, they’re in the process of reconciling.
You started dating this guy 1 month after his engagement ended! That’s major rebound territory. Can’t you see that? It takes time for serious romantic feelings to fade away and for people to truly be ready for a new relationship. It definitely takes more than a few months to get over a failed engagement.
You’re asking, if he wanted her back why doesn’t he just do it? He’s probably building up to it. He’s feeling her out and laying the groundwork. You’re setting yourself up for disappointment if you keep on with this guy.
May 11, 2020 at 9:42 am #790792EmilyOkay, i do think it’s too soon for him to date but I guess I’m in the minority here…
Yea, she said to wish his mom a happy Mother’s Day but his response of, “please do the same for me” seemed friendly. Nothing more, nothing less. He just mirrored what she said. So why is this an issue?
May 11, 2020 at 11:34 am #790804LaneAgree with others in that he’s still very much in love with her. It was more than likely a case of wedding planning blues, whereas its common for a couple to fight and argue during this stage, especially if the woman turns into bridezilla!
I’ve been through real breakups, plus a divorce, whereas, if the man is trying to get back into his exes good graces they do it pretty quickly, and often do so in hopes of reconciling. If they don’t care to speak or see you again, and go out of their way to do it, then they don’t want to reconcile BUT it doesn’t mean they magically stop loving her, or are over her, which is why a SMART WOMAN stays out of the “rebound zone” until they’ve had enough time to grieve, process and lose those feelings. Like they say “the pathway to love is narrow.” If an ex is still blocking that pathway (still has his heart and thoughts), then you do not proceed!
A good gauge/guide is around six months for a short relationship; and a minimum of year (two is even better) for every five years they’ve been together. Although each person and relationship is different, I find men who still harbor strong feelings, either good or bad, for their ex, still haven’t fully processed the breakup and are not ready to be *in love* with another. Its when then they feel “indifferent” towards the ex, don’t love nor hate them, and take up very little to no headspace in their life (rarely think about or talk to them) is when I know they are *safe* to date.
May 11, 2020 at 12:24 pm #790805Liz Lemon@Emily you’re not looking at the big picture. They just ended their engagement. They’re sending each other puppy videos and reaching out to make small talk about unimportant things. It’s not the fact that she wished his mom a happy Mother’s Day, or the way he responded, that’s the issue. It’s the fact that they have already begun communicating regularly and in a warm/friendly way, when that’s not necessary. What they’re doing is rebuilding their bond.
If two people literally just broke up a serious relationship (and an engagement is very serious), if they are serious about healing and moving on, there should be minimal to no contact immediately after the breakup (only when absolutely necessary). People don’t heal from a failed relationship by continually chatting with their ex. Even if you don’t wish the other person ill, you need time and space to heal. Like Lane said, it takes many months or even years to really get over a serious relationship that failed. This guy had a new girlfriend (the OP) in 1 month! That’s a rebound. It sounds like he is feeling out getting back with the fiance, from the way they’re interacting.
May 11, 2020 at 1:31 pm #790813kayeI’m going to through in my 2 cents here which is pretty much in agreement with what everyone is saying, but wanted to add a point. When my husband and I were dating and certainly after we got engaged I had his mother’s phone number and would talk and text with her often. So if it was just a matter of wishing her a Happy Mother’s Day I would have contacted her directly and NOT had to go through him. Personally I think it was an excuse to keep in communication.
He started it asking her if she had something of his and now she’s trying to continue the conversation feeling out the waters by contacting him. They are laying the groundwork to reconcile. Start following each other on social media, find excuses to contact each other, send innocent puppy videos. His relationship with you is casual because he’s not over her yet and if you hang around you’re going to get attached and he’s going to go back to her. When my husband and I were dating we got into a fight, broke up, and neither of our egos would let us apologize, then a few months go by, you start to forget what you even fought about or why you’re mad and one of you reaches out to the other and you get back together. A fight is easy to get over. It’s not like if one of them cheated and it was over.
May 11, 2020 at 1:40 pm #790814NewbieI do understand your reasoning even when the timeframe says: rebound. They argued a lot and thats why they broke up. So if he wants her back he would have to go all in with a big bang being sorry. I dont see that at all.
That doesnt mean he is over his ex though or ready to date you. To make things clearer for you i would just ask him:
I noticed you are talking to your ex fiancee and realized you may have second thoughts about breaking up with her. And then listenMay 11, 2020 at 2:06 pm #790816JaneNewbie,
I’m sorry I’m a little confused. You said you don’t see that happening at all-see what happening? Him apologizing?
Basically what you’re saying is you don’t see him going back to her?
May 11, 2020 at 2:28 pm #790823NewbieYes i will clarify. If he broke it off and now has second thoughts he would put in way more efforts than sending puppy pics etc. So to me its not that clear he wants to reconcile. But that doesnt mean its not going to happen. Thats why i would ask him. Easiest way to get your answer
May 11, 2020 at 2:37 pm #790824KJane, how old are you? Because as you get older and more experienced with dating, you learn that getting involved with a man who’s only one month out of a broken engagement isn’t a good idea if you want a man who could be a keeper. As others have so accurately pointed out, you’re in heavy duty rebound territory here. While I am not willing to join others who say he’s still in love with her because I don’t see any evidence for that given what little you’ve told us, it would be in your best interest to indeed wake up and smell the espresso because truthfully the odds aren’t in your favor. You seem to still be fooling yourself into believing they’re completely over. You really need to ask what Newbie suggested and listen and watch how he responds. I don’t know that you need to dump him right this red hot minute, but you do need to proceed with extreme caution and be willing to find out and accept he wants her back. It might just be they are normalizing into “friends” now but as we’ve all said, the chances of that are low. Very few people are really capable of moving on that fast after a break-up of a serious relationship.
May 11, 2020 at 2:39 pm #790825CiciNewbie,
I disagree. Every guy that I’ve had wanting to reconcile would do things like send me an article, new music, etc. It was never anything explicit.
I’ve known an ex to reach out to multiple times 2 days in a row (missing item or not which I’m sure he just used an excuse to make contact), then send her something 3rd day in a row just because he missed her and had no intention of getting back together. To me this screams I want you back, but I don’t know how to fix what I’ve done.
So if reconciliation was on his brain then why do what he did?
May 11, 2020 at 2:44 pm #790827CiciK,
Why wouldn’t he still be in love with her? He just emoted 2 weeks who that he missed her.
May 11, 2020 at 2:54 pm #790828JaneI will ask
My good friend’s boyfriend is a good buddy of his (how we met) so I was made privy to a few things.
She broke up with him first 2 months ago and in the process of talking things out they got in a bad argument that night, and according to my friend, the guy I’m seeing just got angry and called it off. I do know right before the big blow up where they broke 2 months he went to her mother for advice. He said he didn’t know what his ex had wanted. Then a few weeks later after he broke things off (1.5 month post the breakup she initiated…3 weeks after he called off the reconciliation/broke up with her) he contacted her about his things and then sent her the video. Sent her the video 2 weeks ago and liked the “I miss you but eff you post” a week ago.
May 11, 2020 at 2:57 pm #790829KCici, It’s possible he’s still in love with her. I don’t understand what you just wrote, but from Jane’s post he liked a post of his ex’s that said 50% miss you, 50% F-you. I’m not taking that as hard evidence he’s still in love with her though. It’s normal to miss someone you’ve been with and loved even if you know it’s over and that’s the way it has to be because you just aren’t compatible long term. Personally I don’t have enough evidence to declare with certainty that they’re still in love and going to get back together. However, it’s very clear from the circumstances Jane’s presented there is a high possibility that unfortunately Jane is a rebound and he will go back to his ex.
May 11, 2020 at 2:57 pm #790830NewbieCici,
Ok i understand your point of view, also the other but i wanted to give some counterbalance because to me it wasnt that cut and dry. Nevertheless i would proceed with cautionMay 11, 2020 at 2:58 pm #790831KAlso, even if he isn’t going back to the ex, I’m still not convinced he’s in any shape to be committing to a new woman right now.
May 11, 2020 at 3:07 pm #790832CiciK,
Did you see OPs update?
The ex initially broke up with him. He in turn called it off FOUR weeks ago, right after talking to his ex’s mom for advice. Then just 2 weeks after the breakup, and if my math is correct, 2 weeks ago he started making contact with his ex.
He broke up with her for TWO weeks before making repeated contact with the woman he wanted to marry.
If his intent was to move on even though he still cares for her he wouldn’t be making repeated contact, keeping tabs on social media, and saying tell your mom I said happy Mother’s Day. That’s not the behavior of someone who recognizes the relationship is over and wants to move on.
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