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Tina
Ladies,
What do you think of your partner going on a lads holiday to places such as Ibiza, Crete, or similar? Would you be able to trust him ? Or would it be a reason to break up ?
tallladyThere is either trust or not. If you don’t trust him, then you should dump him. Period.
Yes, he should be able to go on vacation with his friends.
TinaEven a place where it’s just about partying, beach, alcohol and sex?
tallladyYes. He can cheat on you in a place where there is snow, work and coffee. Safety is a myth.
This is your issue. I understand that issue, but if you really believed you were the best out there you would know he will still come back to you. Men hate to be shackled and plenty of men stateside head to vegas….
TinaOne thing is to go on holidays with guys, but to choose a place known for singles is rather disturbing.
One can cheat anywhere, but creating a huge opportunity for temptation is anotherLaneHi.
Do you trust him? Whether he’s at home or somewhere else if a man’s going to cheat it doesn’t matter “where” he is.
My ex traveled a lot (in the military) and took side trips and guy holidays over the 20 years we were married and he never cheated on me because we made a pact in the early stages of our courtship that we would be monogamous and neither of us deviated from that promise. The guy I’m seeing (for over 16 months now) takes trips and I never once even thought about it because he’s never once given me a reason to think otherwise. We too made are in agreement that we’re sexually exclusive with each other and if that changed then that would be the end of us…don’t need to be catching any STDs! :-P
You can’t prohibit them from doing things like this just because your insecure—that’s YOUR ISSUE, not his, if HE (not past BF’s) hasn’t given you any reason whatsoever to doubt or trust him to be faithful.
TinaNo, indeed, he has given me no reason to distrust him. In fact he is the one who is very firm believer of being monogamous.
Yet, these places I mentioned are simply known to get wasted AND get laid. Nothing else. That’s what makes me a bit upset…tallladyIf you make an issue about this, you will not win. If you want to make rules, then fine, but I promise you, you will look like a shrew. Are his friends single?
TinaHmmm not necessarily all, in fact I believe one of them is married.
That’s the thing – I DO NOT want to make an issue of this but a couple of friends keep telling me this is not okay and that those places are merely for alcohol and sex, that made me concern quite a bit …tallladyStop listening to female friends. I am sorry, but it usually does not help.
NewbieIts winter and thise place are warm, lots of bars, clubs. Perfect place for lads to be lads. Doesn’t mean you guy is looking to get laid.
NewbieIt would be crazier if a group of guys decide to hang out in Florence or something and sniff up some culture lol
redcurleysueHi Tina,
I am here in the States and men do go in groups to Vegas where the drinks are flowing, prostitutes hang out and directions to get women are handed out on street corners. We call Vegas “Sin City” and “Babylon”.
What it boils down to is your man’s values and character. If he wants to find trouble he can find it anywhere. If he is trustworthy and has shown you that then kiss him goodbye and don’t worry about it.
AnnBoy’s Weekends, as we call them in my neck of the woods are healthy, just like Girls’ Weekends are. A person can cheat anytime they want. Period. As the above commenters are saying.
You need to figure out where these emotions you are feeling are coming from, why you are not trusting.
As a side comment, not meaning to hijack this thread, but if it turned out he did have random sex with someone while there, assuming it was safe sex, that is far less damaging than emotional intimacy with someone else, IN MY OPINION. People always have different opinions on this though, its fascinating to me, the whole subject of infidelity.
Anyway…..I hope your guy goes and has a blast, and I hope you work through your stuff and enjoy your own “me time” while he is away.
Hugs
TinaActually he also goes to Las Vegas each year with the guys. I told him that’s perfect for guys to do whatever they want, and answered “why would I go with other girls if I have you?”
Generally he’s trustworthy and also trusts me very much. For instance I did day it would annoy me a bit if his new roommate would be a girl, and he said well I wouldn’t mind if you’d live with a guy, it’s just roommates.
Unfortunately I’ve been raised in an environment that “taught” me that all men are the same and are rarely faithful…LaneStop listening to other people and go with your gut. He sounds like an honest and trustworthy guy based on what you’ve said, so I would be hard pressed to create issues (aka DRAMA) when there’s absolutely no need to do so.
Just give him a good lay before he goes, a big passionate kiss and hug before he leaves, and then let him go have some guy fun and create some girl fun while he’s gone :-)
TinaThat’s all very sweet to say, I’m glad there is no need to see it as something weird or wrong that he’s doing that :)
He isn’t a jealous guy, and in my culture is “jealousy=love”
Very bad thinking, I know…TinaHowever my problem now is I’ve acted needy and insecure…how can I repair that ??
LaneOh Tina, what did you tell him?
TinaFirstly, that if he gets a girl as roommate I don’t think I’d want to continue with the relationship
Then asked if he and I would go on holidays, he said ” sure, let’s visit your home country again”
I said, “are you sure? Cause I don’t want that we say thing and then not do them”
Then mentioned whether if he still thought we’d still be together by April…
Seriously what the heck went into my brain…it’s like I has a panic attack and allowed all my insecurity of all of a sudden explode into million pieces!!! I feel pretty ridiculous -_-fairycakefix it by telling him you have had a long think about it and realize you probably just need a girl’s holiday – laugh, smile and then go plan one. It sounds like you have forgotten to be the girl he met – get back your mojo and never show insecurity again
SassperillaTina this is interesting as I think it’s a real UK issue, that men want to hold on to this “LADS LADS LADS” thing until it has to be prized out of their cold dead fingers (at the age of 40 when there is no one left to be a LAD with!)… I get why it bothers you. I really do.
However, two perspectives for you.
First of all I have a brother. He’s been with his wife (who is beautiful and lovely) for 15 years. In that time he has regularly had lads trips away, stags included. Yes, what happens on tour stays on tour, BUT because his wife doesn’t make an issue of it, and lets him go off and let off steam, it has never had an impact on them and I don’t believe he would have ever cheated on her. Yes he might go to the strip clubs or whatever, but he tells her, and me, and it’s all in the open and we all laugh at the stories because in the end it’s no more than silly, drunken fun (IMO).
My best friend is a different story. Again she’s been with her husband for 15 years. But she won’t allow him to go on most of the lads nights or stags, when he’s away she blows up his phone, when he gets back she interrogates him and goes in moods with him. She once made him sleep on the sofa for a week because he came home with a bruise on his bum (from falling over, he said). Thing is my brother told me that when this guy DOES get the chance to let loose he goes crazy and goes with prostitutes and gets right involved with the worst behaviour.
Boys will be boys. That is a fact. You either accept that and TRUST your man to respect you, and give him the FREEDOM to be himself in life. OR you shackle him down and nag him and whine at him and question him and try to control him… and inevitably his respect for you will be lower and his boundaries looser.
Don’t be the “her at home” that in a man’s mind gives him a licence to cheat because you’re such a harridan. Because he will have all his mates back up if they think you’re a pain in the ass! If his mates know you’re cool and relaxed and you trust him they will be more likely to disapprove if he does cross the line!
redcurleysueTina,
When you say these things what another person hears is, “I don’t trust you”.
“I don’t want you to have a girl roommate because I don’t trust you.”
“I don’t want you to go on a lad’s trip because I don’t trust you.” Etc.
You say you trust him but do you really? If you really trust him then let your words and actions say that.
Faye LSasperilla you know that your BEST friend’S husband sleeps with prostitutes and you haven’t told her?? I hope the poor woman doesn’t get Aids.
TinaWhen I say I trust him is because every week he has nights out, sometimes strips clubs with his gentleman’s club and so on but I will never question him not do I send him SMS or anything, just a simple ‘have fun’ and that is it.
However truth is ‘something’ tells me not trusting him and cannot say what. I read we have to trust our gut. However, a lady in this forum (can’t remember who) pointed out once that we should not mistake fear for intuition! I find that rather important because at this point I’m unsure if it is just my gut or fear, and that drives me rather crazy in situations like lads holidays or a female roommate, etc.
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