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    Gaia

    I’m still not sure why this guy is such a catch to you. Is he hot with an above average you know what?

    Seriously, every time you explain something it doesn’t make it better.

    Here is what you have described:
    50+ year old- Middle aged man with demanding job. Not fully divorced. 2 kids still in grade school who he can’t handle when he is home so has to call in mom to help. Mother has so much hold over him she guilt trips him by saying he’s taking time away from gf. Talks big about including said gf in family and friend functions but when push comes to shove makes it seem like the relationship will end in catastrophe. And it has to come to being pushed before action takes place.

    Stop making excuses for him.
    Can you name 5 things of value this man brings to the relationship without “I love him” being in the mix?

    He’s a mess, isn’t divorced, can’t raise his kids alone (plenty of men can!), does whatever his mom says, doesn’t want evidence of you around for whatever reason, and has given you a lot of bs to keep you on the hook with very, very little follow through and only then with a fight.

    You deserve better.

    #932940 Reply
    mama

    You shouldn’t have to fight so hard for a place at the table.

    If you’ve already been to counselling for the children and are now seeking counselling again at the 10-12 month mark, that really seems like something you want to take a hard look at. Maybe go see the counsellor on your own, explain what you’ve posted here and then hopefully realize the bigger picture. Once you finally conquer the mother challenge, what else is going to pop up to keep you from fulfillment in this relationship? THAT is the bigger picture.

    Much for you to explore on your own — this guy is the symptom of your unexplored issues. I’m not saying end it but figure out why you are drawn to this type of guy. Don’t expect full inclusion, ever.

    #932941 Reply
    Maddie

    Someone can be over their partner. They can even be over their divorce. That does not mean they ever dealt with their issues before getting involved with their ex, though. His relationship with his ex may have failed in the first place because he’s a mess and has mommy issues, and he is so entrenched that nothing changed over the course of his last relationship! Maybe they were incompatible because she didn’t want to tolerate him doing these same things to her. He’s not going to be self-aware enough to tell you that. But over the course of your relationship with him, you are observing that he has a lot of issues he’s not dealing with that are getting in the way of your connection and leading you to be unhappy. I’d take a deep look into this and be honest with yourself about how compatible you actually are and if the relationship can meet your needs if things stay as they are now. It doesn’t matter if he pursued you hard at the beginning — it’s easy to do that when you’re excited about someone at the beginning and can temporarily ignore your real life issues when you’re overwhelmed by the blissful honeymoon period at the beginning of a relationship.

    #932944 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    He supposedly tells his friends and colleagues about you, and wants you to meet them– HAVE you met any of his friends or family (siblings, cousins etc)? Or is it all just talk? This guy seems like he talks a good game, but in practice he’s making you miserable (by your own account). He calls and messages you all day, so you feel flattered by his superficial attention– but only wants to see you when it’s convenient for him- when mommy isn’t around.

    Let’s say his divorce gets finalized and the two of you get into a serious relationship. He has a demanding job and works a lot. So he basically needs a nanny for his kids and a cook/housekeeper. If it’s not his mom, how much do you want to bet you get stuck with cooking, cleaning, and babysitting his kids while he works late?

    I’m with Gaia, I don’t see the attraction here. You’re in your 30s, for Pete’s sake- the prime years of dating. This guy is in his 50s!

    #933108 Reply
    Vera

    OP here- thank you all for support.
    To answer some questions – he has not Introduced me to family except his kids. He has no other family around except his mom .
    He has introduced me to some friends and colleagues so I’m not a secret.

    Today we had a talk and I requested a break to think things through . I need to be strong .
    It was quite clear in our talk that nothing was changing anytime soon. He even said something like , I still don’t know if you’re the one for me but it looks promising yada yada . That’s what did it for me . Also the way he was talking made it seem like it’ll be months to a year of me not being able to step foot in his house when kids are there bc of his mom.

    #933111 Reply
    Maddie

    Good for you. His not being sure after 9 months AND him still putting up walls (rather than taking them down) are not good signs when looked at together. Someone can take longer than 9 months to decide if they want to seriously commit beyond boyfriend/girlfriend and that’s fine, but the timing of the forward momentum should still work for both of you, not just one of you.

    #933115 Reply
    Tammy

    I think you now know how things are going to unfold. So many red flags here. Biggest that he is still married! I had once sm years back interacted with a guy. He approached me and he did lot of chasing. Told me hes divorced. But subsequently he told me he is in the process of getting one and that the matter was filed and ongoing. His divorce came through and it was totally clear that he held no feelings for the ex whtsoevr.

    But i sensed sm hesitation on his part. He said that now he was free and sngle, he just needs time to gather himslf. That he wasnot quite ready to commit just as yet.

    I just walkd away. From that point on i alwys made it a point to stay away frm married, separated and those undergoing divorce. Bec evn if they get their divorce, they wld be in no state of mind to getttin hitched again so soon

    Here not just that you have sooo many other issues. Am glad you had that talk. I doubt things between you guys wld progress anytime soon untill he gathers courage and puts his foot down in front of his mom.

    Even if that is done, he has shown that he is incapable of taking care of his kids himslef. And that he needs help from his mom to do that. Are you ready to do so much for his kids? Or are you ready to have his mom in the background to take care of his kids.

    You need to think of all these things.. i thnk ur still yng so its not like you dont hv time.

    #933179 Reply
    Anna

    he is in his 50s so it means his mum who is helping him must be over 70s? not sure how fit he is but she must have some strength to help him out with two kids .
    I still don’t believe it is actually his mum, I have a feeling his wife/gf works away and this is when you are allowed to stay. I know you have mentioned about meetings kids etc
    regardless this relationship is weird

    #933180 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    Good point about his mom’s age. My mom is in her late 70s and is in good health- she could certainly cook for and look after a 7 and 10 year old, but I’d feel guilty putting that kind of work on her on a regular basis. I know it would tire her. So to me that’s another strike against this guy, that he’s putting this strain on his elderly mother instead of getting his sh*t together and learning to take care of his own children. I’m sure the mother is overbearing, but he’s clearly fine with having no boundaries and letting his mother dictate the situation.

    Tammy has a good point too, OP– you’re still young and have time. You’re the catch here, not this guy! I’m sure lots of guys in their 50s would love having a girlfriend in her 30s to play house with! You deserve a guy who’s on the same page as you and willing to give you what you want and deserve. Do you want to marry and have children? Does this guy want more children eventually? Even if he does in a few years, do you want to be having a baby with a guy who’s almost 60? This guy isn’t even divorced yet and won’t be rushing to get married again anytime soon, as others have pointed out. So why waste your time?

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