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Haley
Hello! I am 21, in college, I have posted in here a few times before just trying to navigate dating and trying to get some clear headed advice, as this as helped me a lot with trying to make smart decisions.
Talking to this guy for 3 months. Right before covid, couldn’t meet up did not feel safe, and finally after being insanely hot and cold with him (he stuck around), we had a date this past Saturday night. Went to a park, went to a bar, and ended up kissing a bit in his car. We talked on the phone for days before leading up to the date, which made it a lot more comfortable seeing him (hes graduating college in about a week, we go to the same college sorta met through mutual friends). He is enrolled in the ROTC, and will be leaving in the fall for the Navy. He lives 30 minutes away from me (we are both at home at the moment and probably for the summer), and he has reiterated a BUNCH of times how we wants something serious with me, and he wants to keep seeing me. Now men have a tendency to say things, but they’re actions do not line up. I took this all with a grain of salt, since I was not into him at first, but our conversations were really nice. And it was comfortable.
We spent six hours together, did not feel weird, awkward, felt like we knew each other for awhile. Talking on the phone probably helped a lot too. He said he does not want to talk to anyone else, and I finally just told him I feel the same after dodging the question. I have no idea if this is too much too soon, but I don’t see whats wrong with maybe a summer fling? An exclusive summer fling? I am now seemingly getting into my head. Its very difficult to try to date as we are both living back at our parents house, I have a lot of family things to constantly take care of, as well as now I have a sports injury to deal with. I don’t know if I am too scared to be emotionally vulnerable again, after so many things that end abruptly or just when it comes time to trying to define a relationship, I really just don’t want to get hurt again, and feel insecure about whatever I say or do.
My mother growing up has always tried to implement the “rules book” on me, with remaining mysterious and doing all those stupid guidelines to get a man, and I always think I should try them, even though I think presenting to a man a fake personality is just useless. But right when I open up, they get scared? Something goes wrong? I want to have a distinct boundary with him, on having clear communication regarding feelings, but I don’t want to come off as too much too soon! Isn’t that awful? Why do we, as women, feel like we cannot share our feelings? This has kind of turned into a rant, but I really just want input on any advice with dealing men versus what they say and their actions.
NewbieYoure 21 – do you want to find yourself a husband or have some fun first?
For the the rules stem from the 50ies on how you secure yourself a husband and alimoney if it doesnt pan out. So i agree with you on that. Also you dont have to present a fake personality.
So i would go with the modern version, for example demonstrated in the book why men love b*tches. You live your life and dont need a man in it, unless if its meant to be.
In your case, this specific man to me is trying to get in your pants with fake future talk. No sane man claims youre it after 1 date. So according to the modern philosophy you must assume he talks out of his a/ss.HaleyHi! thank you for the advice and insight. Right after I posted this, he texted me asking me to join him for a small get together this Saturday, celebrating his graduation from college. Sounds nice, but I would be meeting his parents….and grandparents…and close friends…and part of me is like who cares? Would be fun, mingle, whatever, life is short. Only around 10 people overall. Another part of me is like am I going to feel mighty uncomfortable? We still do not fully know one another? I really didn’t know how to react. Talking since February is one thing, but being introduced to his parents as the girl he is seeing, I am flattered yet something seems alarming.
NewbieI have a bad feeling about his superspeed plus he will go away. But as long as you keep your wits together and not fall for a guy you barely know, you will be fine. Maybe he wants the gf experience before he leaves town
redcurleysueI agree with Newbie. Look why invest so soon? Take your time and invest in someone who invests in you. There is no fire.
Liz LemonI agree with the others that this guy is moving way too fast. You’ve had 1 date and he says he wants something serious with you, and wants to introduce you to his parents and family? That’s excessive. Granted you have been communicating since February but still, you have only met in person once.
You say you’re flattered but something seems alarming– you should always listen to your gut in these cases!
Here’s how I see it. You’re 21 years old, presumably this guy is around the same age. You’re young. You have tons of dating and life experience ahead of you.
This guy is shipping off to the military in the fall. He has nothing to lose by pursuing you fast and hard now. He gets a summer romance out of it and then has a loyal girlfriend to lean on for moral/emotional support while he’s away in the military.
So I don’t think he’s just trying to get in your pants, or whatever. I think he wants to have a girlfriend, and then while he’s away, you’ll send him letters, care packages, phone calls etc. This doesn’t make him a bad guy, it’s a perfectly normal desire. The question is whether YOU want to be rushed into a relationship and then after a few months together be stuck in a LDR while he completes his training (how long would that be, 2 years? I’m not sure how it works). As opposed to being free and single and available to date, which is normal (desirable, even) at your age.
This is just my opinion, by the way. Obviously I have no idea what the guy is thinking. But it IS very unsettling that he’s rushing things the way he is. And the fact that you feel uncomfortable in your gut is the biggest indicator of all that something is amiss. You should trust your instinct.
ClaraHi there! I agree with the other posters, you should trust your gut. I know that sounds really mysterious and difficult, but if you feel uneasy it’s probably because your gut is trying to tell you something. Give it a few days and you will know what the right step is. Once you make the right decision for yourself, you’ll feel like a weight has been lifted off your shoulders. That’s how you know you made the right choice. hope that helps!
HaleyHi all, thank you for the advice. I am going to really try to go with my gut on this one. This entire week, we went from talking every night last week to nothing nada. I made a joke to him Tuesday that I did sorta miss the phone calls and he said he’s sorry he’s been tired lately, and said how about tomorrow, i said its no problem, and sure. Well now its Friday and only texts asking how i am, and a few good morning texts every now and then. No call. Not going to mention it ever again until he does. Not even further details on the gathering happening Saturday…what is he expecting? Me to show up Saturday all giddy and be excited when he has barely spoken to me all week? Let alone we had one date? Its all very confusing and I don’t want to put up with this and try to decode how he is feeling. Also it went from such high effort to such low effort on his end?? Extremely confusing signals.
So I am backing off, if he even mentions the parents again I will be saying its too fast. It sucks because I at least wanted to discuss it over the phone out of pure curiosity and maybe come to a consensus like adults and not discuss it over text the night before! Sorry I am annoyed. Thank you ladies for all your input.
LaneHaley, this is just one, of the many, dating experiences you will have, and go through. This is how you learn to weed out guy’s better, learn which one’s are fools or flakes, and which one’s are not. This is how YOU set your dating benchmark, by carefully watching, listening, and observing them, by applying this most important formula WORDS + ACTIONS = TRUTH! If they say one thing “Would you like to____”, and don’t follow through, that is a sign they are not honest, trustworthy, or a man of good character, and those aren’t the guys you want to keep dating! Keep raising the dating bar, or you will only attract the fools and flakes.
Do not chase men! The moment they fade, you fade. The moment they stop calling, you don’t call. The moment they stop asking you out, you go do something else with someone else, preferably another guy who IS showing up. Seriously, men know how to get a hold of you IF they really want to talk or see you! Heck, I’ve had guy’s I hadn’t seen, talked to, or heard from in months hunt me down, or find my number, long before cell phone’s came into existence. One of them was my (now ex) husband that I had broken up with, mainly due to distance (we were in the military), and when he was being stationed in my area, he looked me up in the white pages, and called me out of the blue, on my birthday!
Lean back. Keep your wits about you. Watch, listen, observe and above-all ALWAYS keep your options open to meeting, talking to, and dating other men so you can see which one’s are flakes/flaking, and which one’s are not. Remember, your aim to figure out which guy’s you get along best with, and have the best character traits NOT which guy’s show you a bit of attention—those are a dime a dozen!
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