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    Icey

    My boyfriend and I of 5 months have decided to finally have sex, let’s call him Max. We hadn’t had sex in all this time because I vowed to take my next relationship really slow and make sure I had a good friendship/relationship with a man before we got intimate. Since we hadn’t been having sex we often exchanged sexy photos, cuddle, and have deep conversations. Just a little back ground information, Max and I live 2 hours away by car. We see each other every weekend. We alternate driving to one another. Max treats me very well, we communicate daily, he does things for me just because and he tells me how special I am all the time. He plans on relocating to my city in December so I think we have a great future ahead and I really care about him. Here’s the dilemma.

    We talked about having sex this weekend as I am going to visit him and I was really looking forward to it. He and I made a bet about something and he won the bet. The person who lost the bet would have to perform oral sex on the other person. I just thought it was something silly that we could look forward to. I think oral sex is a perquisite to sexual intercourse anyway. I enjoy giving and receiving. I found out that he “doesn’t give head” and I was crushed. I actually got really upset and hurt by it because it’s important to me. It also made me feel like he had a problem with doing it to me. I don’t orgasm through penetration, the only way is through oral. I feel as if it’s pointless for me to have sexual intercourse if I don’t orgasm.

    I sort of voiced my concerns and I told him everything that I said above because I didn’t understand why he would ask me to do this and he doesn’t. I think it’s selfish. Also maybe a deal breaker for me. He said that I didn’t have to do it to him anymore and that it was fine. He said that in his past relationships he’s had women give it to him without getting anything in return. Sorry if this may seem graphic, He also said there’s other ways to make it wet down there without oral. That doesn’t work for me because I don’t enjoy fingering. Lastly, he said that he doesn’t do it but that doesn’t mean that he won’t ever. I’m starting to think that maybe we aren’t sexually compatible and that’s one of my deal breakers.

    I’m honestly so turned off by him now. I’m upset and disappointed. I don’t know if I’m overreacting or if I should feel this way. I think everything’s weird now and I’m not excited or happy about visiting him this weekend. I don’t even know what I should do now. Ladies what are your thoughts?

    #620042 Reply
    Marina

    I’m there with you. That would be a deal breaker for me too because I also don’t orgasm from penetration. So it would be pointless without oral. So I completely agree and would be turned off too. I think you should have at least talked about that and found this detail out earlier in the relationship.

    #620043 Reply
    Icey

    Marina, we vaguely discussed oral sex and he joked about loving to do it and I guess he lied about it. I confronted him about that and he never really responded to it. Maybe he was just talking to sound good I don’t know. Him and I are in our late 20’s, its not like we’re kids newly exploring sex so I’m just confused and turned off.

    #620046 Reply
    Devil’s Advocate

    This is why waiting 5 months to have sex and see if there is sexual compatibility is too long. There’s a happy medium between having sex on the third date and waiting awhile to get to know someone. But you waited way too long to discuss this. It wouldn’t be a problem for me because that doesn’t get me off. I can only orgasm through penetration. So let him find someone who isn’t into that the way you are.

    #620057 Reply
    Hannah

    Yes I think spending 5 months with someone without having sex and seeing if you’re sexual compatible is a mistake. You may now be emotionally attached to someone that can never make you happy.

    Saying that, you don’t need oral to orgasm without penetration. He can stimulate you in exactly the same way using his fingers (no I don’t mean fingering, that’s usually penetration). Or failing that, using toys. There’s no reason only a tongue can make you orgasm.

    I don’t think it’s fair to say he’s selfish. What if he really liked anal and the thought disgusted you or it was painful? Would it be selfish of you to say no? Of course not. We all have our sexual preferences and no one should be judged or blamed for having them.

    Also you can do if you want this relationship to work is to find a compromise and/or try to work around this.

    #620064 Reply
    Icey

    Hanna, I don’t enjoy fingers around my vagina at all. I’ve had a bad experience with a guys long nails and its not something that I enjoy but you’re right there may be other ways. I think its selfish of him to ask and want to receive oral sex and not give it in return. Isn’t that essentially what being selfish is? because he’s only concerned with his own pleasure and not taking mine into consideration.

    #620066 Reply
    MMP

    I’m not sure how old you are, but if you’re both adults, I agree with the others that waiting 5 months is too long. I also think you’re thinking about all this too much. you won’t really know if you’re sexually compatible until you actually have sex! You can talk about it as much as you want and think that just because he won’t do oral you won’t get off but really you won’t know until you give it a go. LOL

    Although there are certain things most of us can point to and say, “I can always orgasm by X”, I find that different partners have different techniques and something that may not have worked with one guy will work perfectly with another. I think it’s strange you’re already talking about how he’s not going to be able to satisfy you when you haven’t even been intimate with him. With that mindset I can’t imagine the sex will be good at all no matter what he did!

    #620070 Reply
    Nat

    I agree that waiting 5 months is too long but if you only see each other every other week-end that it is not all that long. 20 week-ends in 5 months, you saw each other 10 times.

    Normally if a guy likes to receive oral but refuses to give it I’d say it is selfish unless there are some specific reasons for it. Did he give you any?

    What I don’t like is him lying to you at first, misleading you to believe that he likes what you like. If he told you early on that he does not give oral sex would you have continued, especially with an LD guy? I doubt that. So it was a lie and a bait. Like someone said, you get attached emotionally and it is hard to disengage.

    Him putting pressure on you by saying that his other partners were ok with giving him oral without his reciprocation is not great as well. Why should you care about other partners? When a man volunteers information about his other partners it is a big red flag. You have no means of verifying it so it is all heresay to put you in an uncomfortable position and make you feel that you are being too demanding.

    My suspicion is that this guy may not be what you think he is. Why 2 hour drive? How did you meet? Did he contact you long distance?

    If you didn’t have sex and only met 10 times and you live 2 hour drive away I’d say let this one go. I bet there will be other “surprises” from him.

    #620073 Reply
    Icey

    We see eachother EVERY weekend from Thursday-Sunday. We met in middle school so over 17 years ago. We never dated back then because we always had significant others all into high school but we still kept in touch as friends. I moved 2 hours away for work.

    #620075 Reply
    Icey

    Nat, that post above was for you. That’s exactly my issue he lied to me about it initially that’s why I was so confused and surprised. Maybe I did wait too long but at this point I’m just looking for a resolution

    You ladies are right! I cant say for sure that we aren’t sexually compatible if we haven’t even had sex yet.

    #620080 Reply
    Lane

    I would definitely explore this more in depth before you do ‘the deed’. Ask him if he’s pulling your chain based on what he said earlier that made you believe he performed oral. Wait for him to ANSWER and if he’s not going to engage in it then be HONEST with him that you cannot orgasm through penetration alone, that you require oral stimulation which is not only a form of foreplay that gets you ready, but to feel pleasure the way he does when he receives oral.

    If the two of you can’t find a solution, such as the possible use of toys, then I would walk.

    #620084 Reply
    Raven

    Dump & run!

    #620085 Reply
    julie

    I agree with Lane. Talk to him again and see how it goes. He said that he doesn’t do it, but he may someday, right? Maybe he just needs to feel more comfortable with you. On a different note, I find your preferences very narrow. Sounds like it’s only oral that you like – no fingers, no penetration. I would think about opening your mind to different experiences, there is so much more to sex than oral, you’re missing out on a lot.

    #620091 Reply
    L

    Why don’t you just have sex already. For all you know he has a half inch dick and can’t stay hard longer than 20 seconds. Now that’s a deal breaker.

    #620116 Reply
    Maria

    I have never encountered this, so can’t say for sure how I would react. My BF doesn’t do this as often as other men have (maybe once every 3 times we have sex). I don’t know if that’s because he’s not crazy about the act itself (he seems really into it when we does it though!), but I would never pester him to do it more — he can tell by my response I really like it as he’s really good at it!! Initially, I sort though, hmmm maybe I should say something to get him to do it more often, but at the end of the day I’d never want someone to do something sexually out of “obligation”, takes ALLLL the fun out it for me– i have been on the receiving end of someone wanting me to do a particular activity I didn’t hate but was somewhat lukewarm about and it got annoying to be pestered about it– so it’s become more of a special treat than an expectation in the context of our relationship. one ex wanted to do it all the time but I hated the way he did it… so… I dunno. Every situation/relationship is different..

    Maybe it doesn’t bother me because I can orgasm other ways though– at least with him–

    I really think this is not something you should pressure him into. Lets say he really wanted you to do something you were’t into– would you want to be pressured.? You could ask him WHY– is it maybe because he is OCD about hygiene? If that’s the case you could say, we’ll lets only try it when we are fresh out of the shower or something. (originally I thought maybe that was my BF’s reason for not doing it super often, but I’ve noticed NO correspondence between that– last time he did it was at the end of the day after a long hike, so, LOL, I guess he just has to be in the right kinda mood)

    If you’ll really miss it, then you should probably move on to someone you are more sexually compatible with.

    #620118 Reply
    joan

    My BF doesn’t like oral either way. He doesn’t enjoy receiving or giving.Never met anyone like that. However, I haven’t pushed the issue as all else is good in the bedroom and out, and iI’m in my 40s s- o I have let it go. But I understand why it would be a deal breaker for you. Up to you.

    #620154 Reply
    Maria

    I disagree that waiting 5 months to have sex is “too long”, I’m waiting until marriage, as have many people I know. There are a plethora of reasons to wait to have sex, assuming you can discuss sex openly with your SO.

    If he’s a great person in other respects, I don’t think this would or should be a dealbreaker. It is selfish of him to expect to receive without giving, but it’s also selfish for you to be adamant that you can only orgasm this one specific way. Do you ask this question on first dates?

    What if there was something he liked you didn’t want to do?

    #620155 Reply
    ally

    Have you had the STD talk? Most guys love giving and receiving oral so I am wondering why he is put off by it.

    #620156 Reply
    peggy

    Maria,waiting for sex is a sweet and noble notion. However as this post shows,it is a crap shoot sometimes.I read a story about a couple that waited until their wedding night for sex. It turned out he had a huge penis and she had a very small vagina and they just physically could not fit together and have sex. Big issue-lead to divorce. I would not marry anyone,I had not had sex with-too many variables/issues that can cause problems.

    #620163 Reply
    carlotta

    I disagree that waiting five months is “too long.” You have sex with a new partner when you are happy, safe, and comfortable to do so, whether that’s day 1 or in 5 months. If you end up being sexual incompatible after 5 months and the relationship ends, so be it. Relationships have ended for stupider reasons after a lot more time has passed. You didn’t really waste any time after just five months only seeing each other on weekends. You made the decision that was right for you.

    For me personally, a guy that didn’t want to give oral to me would be a blessing. I don’t like it, I don’t enjoy it, and I ESPECIALLY hate when a guy tells me “you just haven’t had the right person give it to you.” That’s bull of the highest degree. On the other hand, I don’t mind giving. I find it a sexy part of foreplay to give oral even though I don’t like to receive it. So it really wouldn’t bother me if a guy didn’t like it, as I don’t like it myself.

    And, honestly, put the shoe on the other foot. If you didn’t like giving (I’ve had friends whose gag reflex is so strong that it makes them VERY uncomfortable and they don’t enjoy giving), would it upset you if he told you that was a deal breaker when everything else is wonderful? I am not at all saying that sexual compatibility is unimportant. It is very important. But sex is also about respecting another person’s desires and boundaries.

    But there are tons of methods and toys out there with which you can explore your sexual relationship outside of just oral. A tongue is only one thing that can offer clitoral stimulation. I’d recommend buying a few toys and using them on yourself and seeing what you like best, then making it a part of your intimacy. I wouldn’t be so willing to give up so soon unless there were other things about him as a total package that I also didn’t like.

    #620169 Reply
    L

    Maybe he just needs to experiment with you ….If you really like someone I would think that everything in the bedroom is experimental. Maybe he didn’t like it with someone else but maybe different with you. You need to communicate with him. I don’t think this is a deal breaker.
    My bf does it too much actually and won’t even expect anything in return but I do it because I want to and know he enjoys it. We have discussed other things too…that we want to do. So it really is a matter of trying it. If he is really against it then that’s a personal preference you can’t judge him. Either accept it or leave.

    #620172 Reply
    Hannah

    What I mean by it being too long is you run the risk of becoming emotionally attached to someone who you can never be with. You run the risk of getting hurt. Just like waiting 5 months to meey someone for the first time after texting and messaging all that time. It’s a risk and you have to understand it is.

    I get what you mean about him wanting oral and not reciprocating. But do you only do it for the guy? Don’t you enjoy doing it for you and for the feeling of making him happy? If not, don’t do it. To anyone!

    Another way to approach it if you felt resentful would be not to do it specifically to him because he won’t reciprocate. But then he can fairly refuse to go to your aunt’s family gathering or your friend’s wedding (add in whatever he does for you and doesn’t get anything back).

    I’m assuming we have 2 Marias here which is a bit confusing!

    #620178 Reply
    redcurleysue

    If he does not then he does not. Just as if you do not you do not.

    Whatever works in sex is on or off the table.

    I do not like that he mislead you. That was not cool. I would evaluate that.

    Five months is not too long….but you were mislead which makes it seem that way.

    #620182 Reply
    MariaTheOriginal

    Yes-I’m feeling territorial, and am now going to start posting under MARIA THE ORIGINAL, LOL

    #620191 Reply
    Maria

    @peggy

    Detecting a bit of condescension in the “sweet and noble notion”? Plenty of people wait to have sex with only one person. I’ve sifted through lots of guys who felt the need to whore around in college. How many times on these forums do you read about people who had sex with the guy a month or two in and now he’s being distant? And they wonder why…

    I’ve heard stories like that as well, the “it happened to me” sort of thing. That’s why you hear about them, because they’re outside the norm.

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