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  • #369542 Reply
    Nicole

    So, I’ve been dating this guy “exclusively” for 2.5 months now and it’s going really well. Everything just seems so natural, we have fun… Here’s the BUT lol. We only see each other once a week. Granted, it’s always a weekend and a full day.. I’m just finding I need MORE for things to develop further. I recognise I now have feelings for this man and I’m not concerned about the gf title just yet.

    So my question is… How do I go about asking for more quality time without seeming needy? Just find it odd there’s no sleepovers or desire to spend more time? He’s a very independent man, likes his freedom and space from what I can tell. Even though each week he tells me he can’t wait to see me and always plans for the weekend. A week is so long to wait! Lol. Yes I have a full social calendar but I also enjoy spending time with him and like to bring him further into my world. He also works long hrs with travel involved during the week.

    I don’t need to live in his pocket.. But the odd sleepover, or midweek date would be nice. Thoughts?

    #369598 Reply
    Nicole

    Anyone have some advice??

    #369608 Reply
    Harley

    It’s still early days. i think you are pushing stuff. I’d let him lead.

    I have one question ??

    have you been to where he lives yet, hung out with his friends, do you know much about his life ?

    I realise he’s busy but I would have thought he’d be trying to get into your pants by now. How old is he ?

    #369658 Reply
    Lagirl

    It sounds as if this is a relationship of convenience for him. He has a set day to spend with you and then goes about his life as normal. You are at almost 3 months now and this man should be making an effort to bring you into his life by now.. If that is what he wants.

    How did you go about deciding exclusivity? Unless the man locks you down as a gf, exclusive really doesn’t matter. You can become an exclusive fwb.

    Have you talked with him, in general, about what he is looking for?

    One thing you can do is not always be so available. The next weekend, tell him you have plans. Even if you don’t. See if he steps it up to see you outside of the weekend. If not, you have your answer. Unless he is traveling all week long on business, there is no reason why he can’t see you during the week.

    When a man sees a future with you, he will make time to spend with you and want to be with you. He will integrate you.

    Can you advise what the exclusive agreement was and how it came about?

    #369673 Reply
    Diane

    I think you bump into a perpetual bachelor…… My fg dated one – good looking, successful, VP of sales with Microsoft, has 3 properties….. He would only see her every Saturday ….. After 2 years, it is still going nowhere..

    So she quit after 2 years, the #N girl to quit for the exact same reason…

    #369695 Reply
    Nicole

    To answer some questions..
    Yes I’ve been many times to where he lives. We’ve only had a handful of sleeping over in the early days when he pursued me hard. I’ve met his best friend and his sister. We’ve spent time with his sister but not hung out with friends. I’ve recently asked him to a social event with friends of mine to which he said if he’s not working he would love to come. I know his routine pretty well.. He’s open as to what he gets up to during the week. He travels away from home every second week.

    He’s 34. We became intimate about 5weeks into dating. I don’t think it’s just a fwb thing? We’re not intimate every date (but still a fair bit). He is very attentive, affectionate and sweet on our weekend dates. Occasionally when I’ve had a busy weekend with social things, he will plan a date around a time that suits me best not vice versa.

    He brought up the topic of exclusivity about 2weeks ago. How did it come about? I’d been dating a few guys and done some thinking about out casual dating. He had been a touch distant for a week or two. I told him I need some time to think about what I want. When I caught up with him again after a few days, I mentioned that while I enjoy his company I’m not sure where he’s at, that if he’s not interested in really dating to just let me know and I’d move on. To be honest. He then asked if I’m dating other people, I said yes keeping my options open. He then shared that he’s looking for a relationship, wants to take things slowly but wants to see where we may go. He asked about us being exclusive while were together. I’ve never pushed a guy about the gf title..

    #369696 Reply
    Nicole

    Oh and I did casually comment on yesterday’s date that while I love the time we spend together, have fun etc.. I’d like to see him a little bit more from time to time. Got a strange mixed response. He said he does wrk a lot (sounds defensive) but it’s “doable”. Not sure if that was the right thing to do?

    #369701 Reply
    LAgirl

    Frankly it’s a fwb if he hasn’t given the title. Accepting exclusive without that means you are ok with being ambiguous. IMO

    He is keeping you on a reserve list while he does his thing. Meaning that he knows you will be waiting around for him and will see him on his terms only.

    Asking for exclusive should mean he wants you in his life and you are together doing things. One day a week is not a relationship nor does it foster building one. It takes a lot of face time to truly get to know each other and to create that bond. And men DO bond by doing things with you… Not just talking.

    It’s not the best idea to stop dating other men if he hasn’t locked you down. A man will attempt to eliminate competition and yet not plan to get more serious, committed to you. What you did was just make it easier for him and now he can take his time and keep you in limbo without concern of you straying. Bad strategy on your part.

    Taking it slow is man code for, I don’t want a relationship with you…..

    Others may disagree, but I’ve never been with a man who has said he wants to go slow, that was wanting to commit to me.

    The fact he gave you a less than enthusiastic response to spending time with you furthers my argument that this man is not looking to move things forward.

    See if he changes, but if he continues with once a week and has excuses for not increasing it, i would tell him that you want a relationship in which you spend more time with that person. See what he says. If he says he cNt proved that, you’ll have to decide if you want to continue accepting. This or move on.

    #369705 Reply
    Nicole

    Thx for your thoughts LAgirl, really appreciate a third party point of view. You’re right, I shouldn’t compromise in what I need, which is more quality time. I agree that for things to profess you need more face time. I’ll watch his actions the nxt few weeks, see if anything changes positively. Especially since I’ve voiced I need more one on one time. I suppose when you put things that way, I have made it seem like I’ll accept his terms. I’m just terrible at navigating things to the nxt level when certain topics do get discussed.

    And if there’s no change, I’ll have to bite the bullet, express what I’m looking for or need. No pussy footing around so to speak.. Just always thought it was taboo for a woman to raise the topic? I really should be more pro active or aggressive!

    #369710 Reply
    LAgirl

    Here’s the thing.. It’s not a matter of being taboo… When a man really wants a relationship with you, he will make it happen. He will be the one wanting to spend more time with you. So, the fact you find yourself feeling helpless is because he never really stepped up or attempted to make this progress.

    Men hate long freedom… bUT with the right woman, he will sacrifice that and his time because he wants to be with you and wants to bond by doing things and creating memories.

    #369711 Reply
    Diane

    I still think you got what my gf got – an exclusive relationship that is going nowhere…

    I remember my gf telling me he would never blend her into his life… He would only see her every Saturday and nothing else… When she complained about it, he offered her his house keys… But she was like what is the good of that if he is never there..

    But he was so loving when they were together which have her hope… No, ended up w nothing

    #369717 Reply
    Nicole

    I think that’s kind of been in the back if my mind the last few weeks.. Surely if he was interested in a relationship things would have progressed a bit now. It’s natural to start integrating someone into your life. And if they don’t, they’re not interested enough. Maybe I’ve been partially in denial as the time we do spend together is great. Just not enough.. I’ll definitely raise the question if there’s no change in the nxt two weeks or so. No more half committal answers. At least then I can make a choice what I want

    #369720 Reply
    Diane

    Nicole – to give your more perspective, I remember my gf saying that every time they met, he hug/kiss her so passionately that it felt like old Hollywood movie…. What gave her hope too…

    Ask him about his previous relationship!!!!!! I remember my gf saying all his previous relationship ended the same way- the girl got tired of waiting and moved on….

    #369721 Reply
    Nicole

    Thanks Diane. Not sure about asking about previous relationships but I suppose I could drop it into a conversation somewhere. Because i have some feelings for this man, i wanted to give him a chance. I definitely do know I will never wait around for months or years on end for someone who is half committed. Been there, done that years ago. I’ll be closely watching his actions now

    #369733 Reply
    anonymous

    my boyfriend is a very extremely busy guy and works 60-70 hrs a week. and here’s how i know he’s a good boyfriend- we spend fridays and saturdays together, sunday mornings. talks about me with his coworkers and wants me to do well in school. when we got together, it was he who did the asking and brought it up. however, he also believes that it can be “implied”. unfortunately, my relationship isn’t leading to marriage but i’m not leaving immediately.

    i don’t understand- did you ask about exclusivity?

    just to let you know- a guy needs alone time. if his job demands a lot of time, you may just see each other weekends. when a guy gives his weekend to you when he rarely has free time, it means that you occupy a certain place in his life. this is ok with me most of the time, as i prefer a guy who has a good job and works rather than spending a lot of time with me. i am busy during the week as well.

    #369734 Reply
    anonymous

    sucesesful men do not have all the time in the world to spend with you. some women are not ok with it and prefer men to spend time with them.

    #369740 Reply
    Nicole

    No, I didn’t ask about exclusivity. He did. We only spend a full day/waving together on the weekend. Therein lies the problem. I don’t need to see him every moment, I keep busy with my own hobbies, gym, social circles. But would appreciate a little more time than he currently gives. A week is a long time to wait and once that single day is over.. Well they day time flies when you’re having fun lol. I don’t think it’s too much to ask.. Even if it’s a quiet night in with him.

    #369741 Reply
    Nicole

    Evening* not waving. I don’t spend all day doing that haha. Darn typos!

    #369744 Reply
    Eugie

    My bf is the same kind like him, loves freedom, needs space, super independent, has too much going on in his life, busy all the time etc. He needs to want to commit himself to you or nobody can ever make him do so. I don’t think he would want to be “asked” to do anything because he doesn’t like to be pressured.

    I was dating somebody else when he first met me. His texts were sporadic then and he only saw me once every week or every two weeks but kept saying he missed me. I felt it so odd. But I was dating somebody else so I never had a problem with whatever he did. I ended up blowing hot and cold on him for 3 months (I really didn’t mean to but I wasn’t focused on him at that time) and after 3 months he and I started dating more regularly and he made me his gf soon after. It took him another 5 months to become a lovey dovey bf. Now he is clingy. Space is still important for him but he would sacrifice his freedom and space for me if he has to.

    This kind of guy is too hard to deal with. Just give him all the time and space and keep your options open. If it is meant to be it will happen.

    #369749 Reply
    Sandra

    I’ve been dating my boyfriend 18 months and spend on.average one evening a,week together, not always the whole night and not definately every week. We have gone a month of just brief contact by phone and in person. We are both divorced, he is a,successful business man and has little free time, I am a single full time working parent. We.are both hard working and lead very busy lives.

    My previous relationships,were needy abd abusive. My current boyfriend is a gentle man and has,a heart of gold. I have struggled with anxiety because you can read everywhere that if he hasn’t locked you in by 3, months he’s not serious, He has to do this and That in order for you to.know he’s committed. I have taken it extremely slow because thats what he has shown me, true love from a place of trust and respect. My anxiety about him leaving me is mine not his. Some websites have been so helpful in building my self esteem. Now I’m confident I trust him. It’s not the amount of time spent together or sacrifices, its the quality of yoyr relationship and trust that are crucial. Sometimes I’m jealous that lovers , couples, daters etc get to spend time every week together and worried the man isn’t prioritizing the relationship or isn’t committed. Whatever

    #369750 Reply
    Sandra

    Following on….. Whatever you are happy with. There is too much emphasis ongirl how,much time a guy offers the girl, if it’s not enough then he’s obviously not that into.you and you should get out. Well what about our very busy lives, wanting to be careful the person is the one for you, not just the hormonal rush of in love, what about cultural differences? I don’t mean only ethnically cultural but on a smaller scale. We,are a match as,we have both had periods of singledom and are both very independent and need space,and freedom. The pace of the relationship is snail pace and it’s,the best , magical, loving and exciting relationship, it’s THE best one ever. But what’s the hurry ? Enjoy it, slow down, go.slower than him, s..l..o…w……..d..o…..w..n, right down, its a,lovely place to be, it nurtures positive feelings, just enjoy each moment together, let every moment be the best most fun ever

    #369752 Reply
    yams

    Just my two cents worth. I understand where Sandra is coming from and I think there is something to be said for taking a step back and reading your situation as it is.

    I’m one of those people who likes to do things ‘right’, who likes to pre empt, who has high walls and wants to be one step ahead so she doesn’t get hurt. As a result I spend a lot of time on websites like this and reading advice online.

    The advice is great in giving you a general idea, but sometimes you rly need to look at your own situation yourself. A friend recently yelled at me when I let spewing this stuff I’d read online and applying it to my own case- he was like ‘life isn’t a page out of a magazine article. You know your guy the best. Stop judging him on others standards’.

    So yeah, take a look at your guy for what he is. I’m guilty of not doing that and I’m starting to see that it’s rly working to my detriment. Trust your gut once yu have a little time and space to process things. He may be a rly good guy who just is pretty busy or who doesn’t warm up to pple so fast. If he’s showing you attention but is hesitant, look at how he treats his good friends, siblings, exes etc. Maybe he takes time to open up? Or maybe he simply doesn’t need that much contact. Then is up to you to tell him what you want and see if he’s willing to make you happy :)

    #369755 Reply
    Nicole

    Sandra and yams, you mentioned something very important I’d put aside with my worries. It’s how he treats me on our dates and the feeling during and after the date. I do admit, he treats me extra special on the dates we do have. He’s never been a man of many words but more on actions. Lately I’ve been so caught up on where I should be at this stage that I’ve failed to see the little things he now does, some positive changes. Personally I think we’re both crap at communicating “relationship” stuff. Something I need to work on for me.

    Maybe we need just a little more time to find the right balance? Or I’m just looking for hope lol. Either way, the next few weeks will tell. I told him what I need.. I should give him a chance to step up.

    #369757 Reply
    yams

    Exactly Nicole. For instance I am dealing with this really passive, laid back and shy guy. But I keep expecting him to behave like a James Bond character in terms of putting himself out there, saying what he wants, initiating etc. He’s not that guy but he’s a rly good guy. And i keep following the magazine advice and keep doubting and faulting him based on this. It’s not a wise thing to do.

    Im trying to change my ways. But that said I do need to step back and ask myself if I’m someone who’s looking for a more suave, confident, assertive guy.

    And I think yu have to do the same in your context- realize that he likes you and is doing what he can, but then ask if that’s enough for you.

    #369762 Reply
    LAgirl

    I. Relieve the advise r given in here fits the majority of situations, and of course there are outliers.

    Here is the problem with what yams and Sandra are saying…. You. An make up excuses or rationalize all you want, but it doesn’t change things. If s man isn’t stepping up, you can wait for years. Then end up on here wondering what you did wrong.

    When you settle for less than what you want, that is what you get. Wanting to spend time with your man isn’t being needy. Women bond through words, so LDR and situations like this we have a higher tolerance for and can wait it out and keep hopes up.

    Men bond by spending time with you. So if he isn’t taking time to integrate you into his life, he is too busy, then you Re not a priority to him. Period. Or… He is simply fitting you in. That is not a relationship. Sorry.

    On e or twice a week dating is fine and actually advised in the early stages… But in e the man locks you down as exclusive , it’s time to see how you truly function as a couple.

    There are few women on here that are happy seeing their bf only once a week. Yet, their actions tell the man otherwise. We teach people how to treat us. In many cases men will do as little as they have to, in order to keep us around. If you set your own benchmark low, that is what you will get.

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