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  • #360207 Reply
    Janice

    Hey thanks Kate. I will check it out!!

    You have been such a big part in my dating dilemma. I appreciate you! Thank you for your kindness.

    #360210 Reply
    kate

    Janice,
    I just like spying into the mind of guys. I can read on that site forever. I wish you well, keep your pimp hand strong!

    #360588 Reply
    Janice

    Thanks Kate-

    Ive been reading that too.

    I started talking to a different guy on Sunday morning. He wanted to meet up on Tues (yesterday) but I told him I could not. Then I told him on Sunday that Monday is my bday and I am taking a day off of work to relax. He told me that I deserved to be pampered etc on my special day. I said I will just relax and go to lunch with my mom. At first he told me Monday he has work, then work event after until 8 which I said nothing. Then since he found out it was my birthday he said, “well it’s your special day, why dont I take you out for icecream after I get done with my work event at 8pm” I agreed since he was making such a effort after a long day of work. We talked for just over an hour during desert and it was nice. He texted me an hour after we said goodbye and said have a goodnight and good day at work tomorrow. Let’s see how this goes…..

    #362003 Reply
    Janice

    Ok so this guy-he has done everything right. Texted me and always initiated the texting. After the semi-first date, I gave him another date and he stated surprisingly that he got another date with me. He picked me up, bought me flowers, took me to this really fancy Japanese steak house. Paid for an expensive dinner in which I offered to pay my meal/drink or leave tips but he insisted no. We covered a lot during dinner and it seems like we had some things in common but not as much as I had expected. Then I asked him the big question (big for me bc my ex husb) if he does pot and of course he said yes. That was it, I played it all cool because he treated me like what every woman wants to be treated but I couldnt wait to end the date. Since the date, I have not talked to him for fear of leading him on. Now, the role is reversed. Dating is tricky but you just have to have fun and think like a man but act like a woman and they will wait in line at your door. I now enjoy going out and have friendly adult conversation outside of work and home. Just enjoy and have fun dating without expectatations.

    #362428 Reply
    Kate

    Janice,
    It sounds like that date was working more in your favor. Maybe this was illustrating my husband’s point about why guys have to play it cool too (not calling, games) because if they’re perceived as too nice it could be a turn off for you. Just like if we don’t make them invest they don’t value as much. My coworker told me a saying “Easy to get= easy to lose. Hard to get = hard to lose. “I know it’s messed up but you should practice your dating technique on guys you don’t like (then you see what works/what doesn’t) and the loss isn’t much of a loss if it fails. At the least it’s a good dinner..a night out, right? One of my old friends called it a ” buffer boy”, (I don’t know she said it was a reference is cosmo magazine)that you practice playing it cool, work on your game with this one hahaa.

    #362574 Reply
    Janice

    That saying is dead on. So how do I get the in between and keep it? haha.

    He was easy to get. I definitely was not physically attracted to him at all.

    So there is this guy who winked at me mid August. He continue to give me his phone number in the last 3 emails he has sent me. I have not called him but rather continued to return his email. Just today, I emailed him my phone number. I shouldnt be the first to call him right? Let him do all the work in the beginning?

    Janice

    #362855 Reply
    Kate

    Hi Janice,
    It is hard to find a “nice” guy that you’re attracted to (it was for me!) I had guy friends that were butt ugly and worshipped me, but any guy with looks or semi looks usually played games..(they would take 2 steps forward and 3 steps back) hot/cold games ya know.. When I met my husband I was trying to keep an open mind. I just wanted to date, I figured why wait around for the perfect person to come along? It’s a fun night out.. and maybe they have a cute friend (one time the guy DID have a hot friend haha) but you know, just putting myself out there. I basically gave my husband a makeover.. so sometimes we gotta work with our options if we like the person.
    With that guy you’re saying he kept giving you his #, but you wouldn’t call and gave yours instead.. good move. Yes let him come to you, yes. If we act like we’re eager they interpret it as desperate. I even came up with a name for this. I called it “the cool game”..I was playing it cool. Even if I liked them.. always played it cool and kept them guessing. The guys that I was “real/open” with.. just tried to use me or play me out.., so I put my foot down to be the cool game master. I even had guy friends who were the life of the parties calling ME a player (I’m totally NOT) They would say that I “Played guys out and had them holding their skirts” (like they couldnt handle it bahaha better than being heartbroken) but shoot, can’t blame a chic for playing her cards right, to win.

    #362970 Reply
    Janice

    It seems like I either get a really needy one or an asshole.
    Being in the moment, I obviously wish for a break. Patience is the ultimate factor in determining who we will find fit best for me.

    He did email me again and called me and left a voicemail since I was working. In the meantime, there is a guy that wont stop bothering me. Every night since Monday he has texted/called and I never answer once. I am not sure about him either and never met him. I feel he might be a needy one but then I feel like I should meet up and see what happens.
    I’ll try to apply the “play it cool” attitude ;)
    Thanks Kate!

    #363016 Reply
    Kate

    Janice,
    Sounds like it’s going good for you though. Yes i’d say let the guys take you out, why not. That’s how it is, the more the merrier. See it’s nice to sit back and let them step up. It sets a good start where they are coming to you. It’s good you are keeping busy because they have to try even harder to get you to make time for them. Guys are probably used to nice girls that drop everything and give full attention (and they don’t appreciate it) so yes, you’re teaching them how to approach you.. you are conditioning them right!

    #365441 Reply
    Janice

    HELP ASAP

    So the guy (E.R.)that I was head over heel with, the one that gave me a reason to go on here just texted me…”how are you doing? Sorry I have been super busy. Whats new?”

    I did not text him back yet….I want to, what should I do?

    I definitely knew that he has been busy because we have been getting so many storms that caused electric outages….BUT, it does not justify the reason for him to go cold turkey on me for over a month!!! I did the NC thing like all you awesome ladies recommended.

    Also, I just got home from a 2nd date with Scott-to the football game in my “Walk with Me” post and it went great. However, I am not completely physically attracted to him but we did kiss and he asked me for a 3rd date which I did not say yes yet…

    Now that ER contacted me, should I answer? I want to but I dont want him to think I am a doormat for him….

    Janice

    #365454 Reply
    Harley

    Answer.. keep it short and sweet. see what HE has to say for himself. A LOT of guys come back out of curiousity/ego boot, so BE WARY ! If he’s jsust texting and not explaining or asking to meet.. STOP texting him back. JUST GO NC again ! Simple as.

    DO not get into feelings or long winded texts.

    #365461 Reply
    Janice

    Thanks Harley.

    I texted him “I am doing very well.”

    Going NC and seeing what his next move will be. The ironic thing is that I thought about him yesterday while I was with the other date (who has been so simple and making this dating thing so easy) and of course ER had to contact me.

    #365462 Reply
    Harley

    THEY ALWAYS CONTACT. It’s trying to figure out what they want that’s the hard part !

    Try not to get your hopes up… he’ll show his hand soon enough… my bet is it’s curiousity/ego boost , as in my book, a guy that REALLy wants you back, would be saying a lot more straight off the bat.

    Stick with dating the guy you have for now.. even if you are not interested, it will take your mind off ER guy a bit and distract you.

    I have NO doubt ER guy will want you back when he hears of other guy.. but DOES HE WANT YOU REALLY ?????

    ER guy has a LOT of months of proving himself !!!

    #365624 Reply
    Janice

    Harley,

    If we could decode their intentions when they text us back, we could open Pandora’s box for all the women. Only if…

    I will not initiate anything unless he show some legit actions. Otherwise, I am still sticking with Scott who has been nothing but perfect. I guess the saying is, you want what you cant have.

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