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Lane
Anon, I disagree its this low. Women have become another consumer good in the shop window, as men have now been abdicated by society to grow up, whereas many are also being raised by “single moms” who do everything for them, so they see no benefit in growing up when they can easily hit a bar and bring a lady home even when still living with mommy at the age of 30! Lots of these posts where the lady comes here trying to get him to commit to her, like the movie “failure to launch” with no happy ending.
Men have been taught by society they don’t have to be in a relationship to get easy access to sex. I recently talked to a single guy, age 29, and asked him “isn’t it exhausting constantly having to find a woman to have sex with?” He replied, “its actually pretty easy.” He’s seeing two ladies right now and has zero desire to be in a relationship with either of them. Its the ‘male mentality’ today where they see absolutely nothing wrong with it, know when the lady want’s more, which is when he sends her packing (fades out, bounces, goes poof). They’ve been trained and conditioned by society to engage in this behavior, to the point, its no different than them washing their car, grabbing something to eat, or meeting a lady for sex—its become a regular routine for single men. BTW, he was only a few courses short from attaining his Biology degree, then switched to Accounting, while bartending part-time—just another man-boy who doesn’t want to, nor needs to, grow up.
Of course good looking men (6/7 – 10 range) are going to have it much easier than non good looking men (6/5 and under); however, if they have a lot of charisma, a good career/job, they too can score if they learn ‘the shopping game’ well enough. My ex husband, aged 56 does this himself, since our divorce a decade ago, where my youngest son calls him a “man whore!” A couple ladies hanged on for a year or so only to find out he had no intention of ever committing to her. He told me this a month ago when I asked what happened to him and his last GF while discussing our eldest son’s upcoming wedding, as it appeared to me they were very “committed” and thought he would marry her. This is how men can so easily enjoy the *girlfriend experience* without having any intention of taking it past that stage. Sadly, it took that lady over a year to find this out :o(
All I’m going to say is I am sooooooo glad I dated in the 80’s when men were still taught by society to grow up and did so primarily out of high school v. today, where they are just ambling through life with no plans or goals. I truly feel for the young women who are out there truly looking for a relationship, only to find tons of these duds.
HoneypieAmanda I am really concerned that he would text that. You are right to see that as a red flag!
That doesn’t look good at all. What kind of person texts to meet again and asks that? Sorry but it doesn’t sound like he’s thinking of a long term relationship. Please be careful here . When are you due to meet him?
Amanda@honeypie Well the reason he said it is because I said something along the lines of “I really had fun”….and so he said he did to, then said if that means I want to have more fun. Then that’s when I said “I think that’s a conversation we should have in person lol” . So really I brought it up, and he didn’t keep pressing on the issue, we quickly changed the subject. We have met twice already since then and have another date planned.
LaneSorry, but he thinks your up for more sex (aka ‘fun’). Since your offering it, he’s going to plan a date to get some fun (sex). I would have that convo with him before you have some fun, because in his eyes, he’s only see’s you as “fun girl.”
DangerouseGood response, although his question is an insult.
AnonAgree- good response to the text. He may just be checking your interest level. It’s good you have gone out again. Have important conversations about relationship issues in person so you can better judge how he’s really feeling. Anything written in a text could be misconstrued. Look at how different the opinions are in this post written about the text he sent you- because we really don’t know!
HoneypieJust clarifying Amanda- you’ve been out twice again since he sent that text? And have you had sex on those occasions?
Amanda@Lane I did not offer anything. I simply said I enjoyed myself. Is that so wrong?
@anon Very true. I feel like he may be testing me to see how I react.
@honeypie No we have seen each other twice since we engaged in fun—and he’s asked to see me again. No we have not had sex on those occasions…were out in public places.
DangerouseYes, saying you had fun is offering yourself.
SophiaI don’t think saying you had a fun time is a bad thing. If I went on a date and had a good time I’d say so too.
For me the problem is he took that and related it to the sex, whereas you were talking in general about the whole date, right?
Or were you actually only talking about the sex yourself too?
If that’s the case, then yeah, you might have given the wrong impression.But honestly, the fact that you’ve seen each other twice since then . . . this just sounds like normal dating. Bring up the “what is this to you talk” in person, and don’t sleep with him again until you have it.
Good luck!!
AnonLane,
I’m not surprised a 29 year old can get laid with zero effort, but that 54 year old is probably paying for a lot of drinks and dinners to get laid. Or is stringing women along with “almost relationships”. Lots of men stay really vague…. a hot guy will be upfront about looking for casual. Marginal ones are “open to see where things go”. Also, hook ups are pretty shallow. I dont care about a guys job if I am just looking for sex.I think it’s always been pretty easy for the top 10% of men to get laid (groupies….). Its always easy for women to get laid.
As for this guy, his text would have been a turn off to me…. and a signal that a conversation needed to be had about where this is going. That’s kinda the text you get from a casual guy.
StephAmanda, waiting till date 5 really isn’t too soon in my opinion. Sounds like you did it because it’s what you both wanted, so good for you! In my opinion, a GOOD guy won’t care when you sleep with him, especially if he is interested in you. My last relationship was with a man I slept with on the first date, but he continued to pursue me even after that.
Any man who is not interested to begin won’t change his behavior based on if you sleep with him on the first or 15th date. I don’t care what the popular opinion is on that because I’ve had sex early on and also held out. Sometimes guys are interested, sometimes they aren’t. I don’t really get different results personally. And the other thing is, would you want to be with someone who cuts you off for ‘sleeping with them too soon”? Absolutely not.
And honestly, sometimes I don’t regret having sex soon on it case it’s bad. Imagine thinking you found your potential next partner and held out a long time only to find out you have terrible sexual chemistry. No thanks.
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