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Mary
I’m pretty upset bc I met a guy that seems genuine and out of nowhere he appears to not be interested.
We’ve been seeing each other for about 5 weeks now and up until last week I felt pretty confident in the way it was going. Some green flags in the first month:
-His profile on the dating app said looking for a relationship
-we were seeing eachother at least once a week
-communication between dates is pretty good. We would sometimes go 2 or 3 days not talking but eventually one of us would reach out and check in.
-we still haven’t had sex and he respected that I wanted to wait (we’ve fooled around still)
-I noticed the first time I met his friends they already knew my name before he introduced us (he must have mentioned me to them)
-I’ve spent the night at his place a few times
-and all in all I feel this guy isn’t a player. (I’ve had a lot of experience with players in my past)So the first 4 times we saw eachother were dates initiated by him, the 4th date being more of a sleepover type of thing. The first I was the one who initiated us hanging out was for the fifth date were I invited him to come hangout at my pool on a Monday. This was almost two weeks ago.
When he came to my pool We had a great time and he didn’t try to hook up with me. Before he left he mentioned us maybe hanging out that upcoming weekend.
So the rest of the week our communication was everyday. This was a step up from our previous communication. To me I felt it was moving to the next level. We would text all throughout the day and evening.
Then things started to get a little weird when that weekend came and I casually brought up during our conversation something like “any plans this weekend ?” to which he replied he was at his friends graduation party and then that his friends from Florida were staying with him Saturday. We were still keeping in contact throughout Friday and into Saturday and then around 11pm Saturday he stopped replying.
Then I don’t hear anything from him Sunday and then all day Monday. So I reach out with a meme Monday evening and he replies and we get into a casual text exchange that goes on through Tuesday. Both of our replies are more drawn out than the week before, but I understand we don’t have to talk every hour of everyday.
So when Friday comes around I start to get concerned bc the most recent reply was from me on Tuesday evening. So Friday evening I reach out with a Snapchat and we snap chat eachother back and forth but then I send a snap chat at 10pm of me out at a bar telling him to come to this bar and he doesn’t open it until the following morning and he hasn’t replied so it’s been since Friday evening that I heard from him.Is it safe to say he probably isn’t going to reach out? We’ve been seeing eachother for 5 weeks and I thought things were maybe moving forward and now I’m not sure if he is ever going to reach out to me again?
RavenYou’re doing quite a bit of initiating…
Liz LemonHere’s the thing, just because a guy’s profile says he’s looking for a relationship, it doesn’t mean the relationship will be with YOU. Sorry to be blunt.
We have no way of knowing if this guy will reach out again. After 5 dates, it’s not a good sign that his contact is dropping off. If a guy is into you, he’ll start escalating his attention after several dates, not diminishing it.
He’s probably dating other women (which is fine, you’re not committed to each other) and he may have found someone he clicks with better.
Raven has a good point that you’ve done a lot of initiating. All you can do is sit back and see if this guy gets in touch. He may fade out, he may come back, but I wouldn’t expect anything serious from him if he does come back. Like I said, if he were strongly interested in you he would not ignore you!
RavenHere’s the deal… You must remove Your Ego from the equation…
Online dating means you have to multi-date…
It’s like testing pasta… Throw it at the wall & see what sticks, if it don’t stick, move forward with the other noodles…Ewait is easy to say date multiple men at the same time especially if we like someone, but I know men date at least 2 girls at the same time and then decide which one they are more compatible with .
he knows how to contact you and like Liz said he might be looking for a relationship but not necessarily with you. Men know that if they put on their profiles ‘I am looking for fun’, chances of them meeting someone are really low.TallspicyInitiation prior to when you are exclusive should be about 1 to 4 max. So he had been consistent and you asked to the pool. Great, but after that, you could have let him do the next heavy lifting.
Yes, it sound like he is fading and just because someone on their profile says they want a relationship, does not make them capable or mean it.
GaiaWhy are you so invested in this guy after only 4 dates?
Who cares what he is doing, if he is fading out, or if he is losing interest. It isn’t a reflection on you!
Date others. If this one shows up again, date him or don’t. 5 weeks and 4 dates is hardly time enough to decide on a long term relationship commitment.
AA lot of guys will love bomb and act very interested in you when all they really want is sex. This is why it’s better to hold out for the first couple months to see if the interest is genuine or just sexual desires. You did the right thing by holding out. It looks like he just wanted sex, and when he’s invested this much time into dates with you and isn’t get a reward, he probably figured he should stop trying because he wasn’t getting what he really wanted. Take this as a loss and get yourself back out there. This guy is a loser and not worth your time.
RubiMy opinion is a bit different.
I feel like you’re not giving this connection some breathing room. Guys will take space when they feel things are getting too much or going too fast ahead. You were both initiating but I feel that once the graduation event came around he shifted his attention to his friends for that weekend. You initiated a conversation and he responded which is a good sign. However, you initiated again asking him to come to this bar, which even to me feels like you’re trying to get his attention and getting in his face a bit too much honestly. Let him have some time away from you, let him miss you some. Let him think about you and wonder what you’re doing.
It’s far from playing games, it’s just logic. Too much of anything will bore anyone.See I was once were you are now. He ended up being my boyfriend eventually but before then, I was always pushing or asking about the next meet up every damn weekend. I forgot I had friends of my own. We had too much fun together I’m talking hikes, picnics, car rides, dinners, movies, club hopping, concerts, game night, even bbqs at his house. Both of us was initiating which is why I didn’t realize it was a bit much. Until he had to tell me to give him some space. It hurt me, I thought he was losing interest. No woman wants to hear a man ask for space. But he wasn’t losing interest he just wanted his “me” time and do something without me which is completely normal. If I had kept pushing then yes he would have lost interest. So this is what it looks like to me.
You have to give the man some space. I don’t mean go cold, I mean go see your friends. Do something for yourself away from him and trust the process. Let him choose you don’t make him feel like he’s being pushed to choose you.
TammyU hv initiated since the 4th meeting and even initiated all the chats post that. Just relax step back and shift your focus to frnds, family, other activities. Let him revert. And if he doesnt connect, thn you hv ur answer. But in case he does, this time around dont make the mistake of putting all ur focus on him. He is obviously meeting frinds, doing other things. You shld do the same.
Liz LemonRubi has a really good point, generally speaking, about giving space (especially at the beginning of dating when things are going well- you still need space).
However in this case, it’s been 2 weekends in a row that she hasn’t seen the guy (and last weekend she didn’t even hear a peep out of him). He’s not initiating contact at all. I think this situation is a lost cause– the guy is probably seeing someone else. Whatever the reason, he’s lost interest, I think. No guy who wanted a woman would let 2 weekends go by without seeing her and risk losing her to another guy.
RubiLiz Lemon thank you for the shout out.
To how I understood things, she said the last she heard from him was last Friday evening. So it’s been 4 days today. The OP hasn’t updated us since she posted on Sunday. They could be in communication.
In any case we don’t know really what the guy is up to but if he still hasn’t contacted her since then, now I would also agree that he’s head is elsewhere.
Hoping for an update.
MaryThis is encouraging about your bf. How long did he go nc with you? We haven’t talked in 4 days almost
RubiWe never went no contact. I just gave him the space he wanted and toned it down a notch. If I was seeing him every weekend I would skip a weekend every now and then. He wondered who I was hanging out with and he started missing me around and his feelings developed I guess because pretty soon he was asking me to stay over. We were 4 months in around that time though.
It’s a bummer that your guy is still MIA. Doesn’t look good. Don’t reach out to him though. You can wait a day or two if you want but I’d be disappointed too.
MaryYeah we haven’t talked to eachother since Friday evening and it’s definitely his turn to reach out.so it’s been almost 4 days. I will say last weekend he did have out of town people staying with him but I still feel he would have contacted me by now even just to check in.
Liz LemonI think you should forget about this guy, I’m sorry to say. If he were interested, he’d reach out. It’s really that simple. Having out of town guests doesn’t prevent him from texting you to say hi and ask how you’re doing.
He hasn’t initiated contact with you for what, a week and a half now? Last week he was only responding when you initiated. This isn’t the behavior of a guy who’s interested in a woman.
MaryI guess it’s weird because he technically hasn’t reached out in a week and a half but at the same time the only ways that I kind of reached out to him in the past week are by sending him a Snapchat. He is the one who initiated conversation though by chatting me in the app. I don’t know how familiar you guys are with Snapchat but you can send a picture to multiple people at the same time which is what I did but then he would personally reply to me in the chat
MaddieYou’ve gotten a lot of good advice here, and I especially like all that Gaia pointed out.
I don’t think this is promising because you kept feeling like things were moving forward but he didn’t actually say they were. Words and actions need to match up for you to be able to read into them. Don’t give him technicalities (excuses)… you can move forward and explore other options, and if he comes back you can make a decision then. It doesn’t hurt you to be open to other connections after only a few dates, especially when he’s lost momentum on taking initiative. Or just focusing on yourself and spending time with friends, doing your own thing. It’s okay to be disappointed when things didn’t go the way you wanted after a few dates, but like Gaia said, it’s not a reflection on you, so try not to dwell on him!
Ewawhat is so special about him that you needed to chase him? I am not sure how old you are , but like others said, at the beginning a guy should be the one initiating , it is ok to do it once to show some interests as some guys are shy and sometimes don’t know where they stand, but once he knows he should pursue you.
don’t bother with this guyRubiYes. Yes. I agree that by now he should be realizing he hasn’t heard from you if complacency got the best of him. He should be reaching out and putting things back on track.
The fact he’s not shows you should move on.Across the AtlanticSomebody above mentioned something about men lying about wanting to be in a relationship. So I thought that I would my violence so that.
1. Yes men do often lie about looking for a relationship. They will say ‘I am looking for something serious. I am tired of casually dating. It is all so mechanical and soulless isn’t it?’ They know this is what women want to hear.
2. Men need to have all their ducks in a row or they will not seriously consider entering into a relationship. If his career seems to be stalling,or he feels he might have to move to another apartment for a variety of reasons he will not want to get seriously involved with someone. Men will not want the additional bother of a relationship if thinks are not right in their lives. This may sound ridiculous to women who generally view relationships as something fun,exciting something to take their minds off work or accommodation problems. I
3.The sexes see things so very differently in so many things that what is black to a woman is white to a man and vice-versa.
Across the AtlanticTwopence not ‘violence’ 😣
Liz LemonI totally agree with Across the Atlantic– and to add something I learned from this forum/website (which I had never really considered before)…..generally speaking, men don’t date to find relationships. Men date for sex and companionship and fun. They get into a relationship when they meet a woman who knocks their socks off– someone they can’t imagine living without. They will gladly commit to a woman who they have fallen for– a woman who that man thinks makes his life better by having her in it.
Women have the opposite approach. We date to find relationships. We meet guys with the mindset that we hope it turns into a relationship– before we even really know him. We’ll commit to a guy even if we’re feeling lukewarm about him, because we will try to build a relationship and see if the feelings grow. Men don’t do this.
There are exceptions to this of course, but generally speaking it’s true.
I think men put “looking for a relationship” in their dating profiles because they know it’s what women want to hear, yes. I also think that they *theoretically* would be interested in a relationship if they met the right woman. The woman who knocks their socks off. Most men won’t commit to a relationship with a woman they just think is OK.
It may be that the guy in this situation thinks the OP is OK. She’s nice and he enjoyed spending time with her (which is why they had 5 dates). But he didn’t like her enough to escalate contact or take it further. It doesn’t make him a player (as long as he hasn’t lied to you or led you on), or a jerk. And it’s no reflection on you, as others have said- it happens! You just have to let it go and move on to other guys.
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