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    Ella

    Everyone in my life is sick of it. I literally am not allowed to talk about it. My mom just hung up the phone on me. We spend every other week together and I’ve posted on here about his teen sons. I brought up that again I wanted to be included and he said not for a year and a half—they are his priority and he wants the last couple years alone with them for quality time. He said he has told me this from the start, but he also introduced me in March and then said we would spend his bday together next month. Friday he said he has never waivered. A year and a half of me going back and forth every other week. That he sees this in the long term but he is putting his kids first and his kids don’t need a girlfriend or me to be a stepmom around. He wants to be with me long term but this is the way it is. No compromises. But the thing is—he has said different things over our year together so for him to say he has never wavered isn’t the truth. And then he says he wants to buy a house in 2 years and be together. And he sees me in the long run so that isn’t it. I told him I have asked him many times to show up and let me know I’m a priority by words of affirmation on our weeks apart and not feeling ignored. He said he would try but he’s really doing his best with what he has already. What do I do? My therapist said to start this conversation because it’s been a year and nothing has really changed and I’m just getting older. She said ask about the near future. When asked, there are no plans to change. What should I do here?

    #941746 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    Why are you letting this guy call the shots? How can he claim to see a future with you when he won’t even allow you around his children?

    “He wants the last couple years alone with them”, what does that even mean? Hanging out with you, having dinner, seeing a movie, etc- none of this will take away from his relationship with his kids. If he sees you in his long term future, he should be trying to foster a relationship between you and his sons. Instead it sounds like he’s actively forbidding you to see them.

    How long have you been together where you only see this guy every other week?

    I would be less concerned about his claims that he “never waivered” and more concerned about the bigger picture. This is not a sustainable setup and you know it– keeping you from his kids, seeing you every other week– that’s not a recipe for a serious relationship. Is this really how you want to live?

    #941747 Reply
    AngieBaby

    OUCH. This is your issue and not his, actually. He’s been crystal clear about where he is in his life and where you stand in it. You continue going along with it even though it’s not what you want. Why????

    This whole scenario reminds me of an old song my mom plays sometimes: “Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps.”

    You ask him to show his commitment and his response is “I’ll try.” There’s the song. And you know what Yoda says: “there is no try, you either do or you do not.”

    So why are you not reading the writing on the wall here? You’re a part time GF at his convenience. You are not getting what you want. You have zero leverage. Yet you still are not willing to walk away? Again, WHY?

    This is the type of situation where you hang around for another two years taking his word for his willingness to commit fully at that time, and then as the two years gets close to being up, he breaks up with you using some lame excuse. You’ve lost all that time and he moves on with lightning speed to someone else who he marries, fast.

    You’ve posted about this before, yes. So are you just venting because your mom hung up on you and no one else wants to hear this? Or are you ready to hear the tough truth and take some action this time?

    I think you’ve got a year and a half into this and you are suffering from “sunk cost” – you can’t let go because you’ve got so much time into it already. My two cents: stop throwing good time after bad and get out of this. Tell him you understand he’s putting his kids first and you respect that. And you’ve decided it’s time for you to find someone who is ready willing and able NOW to put you first. Tell him he is welcome to call you in two years if he wants to be with you and take the actions to prove it and if you’re available then you’ll consider what he’s offering. In the meantime, it’s time to break it up and cut him off and don’t look back. It’s going to hurt. But how many more of these posts do you want to make? I can feel your anger, resentment and frustration.

    #941749 Reply
    Wlla

    I feel frozen. It’s our week together and he is out with friends tonight when we had talked about dinner plans last night. I got a text he’s having a happy hour at 4:30-5. I got home at 2:30. He was working. He didn’t say a sentence to me. He then got ready and I asked him about food and he said he would be eating there. I had asked him in a text if he wanted me to come he said no it’s just work friends talking about work. So now I’m in his house alone. Mom hung up on me. No one but my therapist will entertain these conversations. I don’t know how we did one week on one off for a year but I feel like you can prioritize your SO and your kids. And if I am in the big picture, he should be proud to have me around them. I have a good job, I’m a good person, he knows me well. We don’t fight but this is a lethal impasse

    #941750 Reply
    Wlla

    And I’m in my mid 40s

    #941751 Reply
    AngieBaby

    How long have you been seeing your therapist? What does he/she say about this situation?

    You feel “frozen.” I ask you yet again: WHY???? What makes it so hard for you to keep taking his crumbs? The behavior you describe is disrespect bordering on contempt. This man doesn’t value you but you seem desperate to hold on. You don’t seem willing to address that.

    #941752 Reply
    AngieBaby

    I meant, what makes it so hard hard for you to STOP taking his crumbs

    #941753 Reply
    AngieBaby

    Ella, this man is NEVER going to give you what you want. He is not going to acknowledge your needs and concerns, he is not going to involve you with his children or his life other than when he feels like it which isn’t very often.

    #941754 Reply
    AngieBaby

    It almost seems like he’s being a jerk to force you to dump him. Because any self respecting woman would.

    #941755 Reply
    Anon

    Men respond to actions- leave his place and go home. Do your own thing. He did not respect your week together- you don’t owe him respect to stay there waiting for him.

    #941757 Reply
    Maddie

    “Tell him he is welcome to call you in two years if he wants to be with you and take the actions to prove it and if you’re available then you’ll consider what he’s offering. In the meantime, it’s time to break it up and cut him off and don’t look back.”

    I was going to say the same thing as AngieBaby. This is the way. It opens you up to meet someone else who treats you better, you don’t need to feel guilty or that you’re missing out because if he’s ever ready for more he will come back and if he’s not, you’ve stopped wasting time on him already.

    I hope you’re discussing with your therapist why you don’t feel you deserve more and you’re too scared to go find it. That’s far more important to figure out than trying to analyze this guy. If you don’t start prioritizing and focusing on yourself, you’ll stay stuck and upset in the same thing you’ve been doing over and over and over for the last year and a half. That’s why people don’t want to have the same conversation with you again, they don’t want to see you hurting and abandoning yourself by always making excuses for him when they know he’s never going to change. Why would he when he’s already getting everything he wants? If you really want something to change, it needs to be on your side.

    #941758 Reply
    Ella

    Thank you everyone. I do feel a sense of shame and contempt that I am in this position. I had recently come out of a divorce and actually he and I dated in college so I felt like it was a “safe” relationship for me in which I could actually even have space to heal. But the pushing back of every momentum and then the kids stuff has been so unhealthy for me. I sometimes wonder if there is something wrong with me. Like I said, I’m extremely successful, educated, attractive, kind, empathetic. But for some reason I have been holding onto words and not actions

    #941760 Reply
    Natz

    I remember your old post.

    This man doesn’t want you. He doesn’t love you. He doesn’t care. His sons are just excuses. He keeps choosing EVERYONE ELSE over you. And you’re holding on for the wrong reasons. You’re afraid you’re not going to find someone else and I understand you’re not exactly feeling like the youngest and you’re divorced, but honestly you’re better off alone than this!!

    Everyone has told you about this situation, your family and even strangers from the internet. Your Mom can’t deal with it no more. Your therapist is the only one who’s going to listen because it’s their job. And they should be honest with you and tell you this is not healthy for you. You have nothing to lose honestly. You don’t have anything keeping you with him. You don’t see him, you don’t have intimacy or quality time. You don’t have his respect. And he’s not offering you anything but empty dreams.

    End things right now just by telling him you don’t think he can be in the NOW with you and you’ll be moving on. Don’t offer anything for the future. He doesn’t even deserve to think he still got a shot later on when he’s lonely.

    #941763 Reply
    Ella

    I’m just still in the stage of wondering why he would want to wait a year and a half before having me around his kids. I’m trying to see it in any rational way if he says “he’s not going anywhere and he’s not looking. His future is with me” Is this manipulation? Last night he got back from his friends meeting and didn’t even touch me or talk to me. He put on one of his shows and I went to bed. No good night kiss or I love you.

    #941764 Reply
    AngieBaby

    OK, tough love time.

    Ella: read your last post a few times. You sound and behave like a victim.
    You are talking and acting like some mysterious unseen force is doing this to you and you have no control over it. This is 100% you and only you choosing to remain in a situation that is actively causing you harm and refusing to take any responsibility for it.

    It’s not this man’s job to heal you or provide a space where you can heal. It sounds to me like you can’t stand to be on your own. This is nothing about him and all about YOU. You’re looking for someone else to validate you and be there for you when you need to validate yourself and be there for yourself. You’re clinging to this man like a lift raft and no one wants to be around someone like that.

    Any therapist should be telling you this and I’m pretty sure they are and you don’t want to hear it or act on it so you’re coming here to plead your case because no one else including your therapist wants to hear it any more, with very good reason. It’s sad and painful to see someone with such low self esteem that she won’t value herself and will take the pathetic crumbs this guy throws.

    I’d bet money he’s doing what he does to get rid of you rather than break up honestly, which sucks on his part.

    I think you’re going to stay with him and fruitlessly beg for a place in his life. I don’t see anything that indicates you’re ready to change. There’s nothing “wrong” with you. I believe you think you won’t find anyone else and you are desperate to be with a man. Obviously the divorce you went through wasn’t your idea and you didn’t want it.

    Until you decide to stand up for yourself and walk away from this guy and do your healing work properly – on your own, without making a man responsible for you – this will continue. I’ve said all I can say and I don’t think you’re listening to anything anyone on the site says. I hope you will wake up and take responsibility for yourself and your choices.

    #941765 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    “I’m just still in the stage of wondering why he would want to wait a year and a half before having me around his kids. I’m trying to see it in any rational way if he says “he’s not going anywhere and he’s not looking. His future is with me” Is this manipulation?”

    He’s divorced, right? There are lots of divorced guys in their 40s and 50s out there with kids, who want companionship on their terms. Not a serious commitment, not marriage/cohabitation, but just a warm body to hang out with when they feel like it. They were married, been there done that, not looking to do it again anytime soon.

    So yeah, he’s not looking and he’s not going anywhere. Why would he put in that effort to find someone else when he only wants the bare minimum, and he’s found someone (you) who’ll put up with that? “Last night he got back from his friends meeting and didn’t even touch me or talk to me. He put on one of his shows and I went to bed. No good night kiss or I love you.” Does that sound like a guy who wants to make his partner happy, or a guy who just wants a warm body around once in awhile?

    Does it matter if it’s manipulation or not? It’s not what YOU want, that’s all that counts. He’s fine with the way things are, but you aren’t. That’s what you should be focusing on.

    #941767 Reply
    Maddie

    Want to chime in that I totally agree with the other posters, and him not wanting a real partner right now and choosing you for that doesn’t mean anything is wrong with YOU. It simply means that you’re the one who has been willing to put up with it, and a lot of people won’t. That’s nothing to feel ashamed about because shame doesn’t help and just makes things worse, but it is something to dig into (why are you accepting it??) and then change it by respecting yourself and your own needs better, no matter what anyone else is doing. Your therapist can help you with that. You deserve better than to be in a situation that makes you miserable!

    #941768 Reply
    Mary

    Ella,

    You are in a relationship so why not live in the moment? I agree that he should not bring you in the terns lived while they are teens. Be patient and understanding. And work on making yourself happy without his validation.

    #941769 Reply
    Mary

    *teens

    #941770 Reply
    Mary

    *lives

    #941772 Reply
    Raven

    You have been patient & understanding for how long now & where has this gotten you? Which BTW is terrible advice…

    #941780 Reply
    Tammy

    Am sorry but your just not thinking at all! If you meet a man and are quite sure that he is the one you want to spend your life with, what will u do? Introduce him to your family and try and integrate him in your inner circle. But he is not doing that! If he is envisaging a future with you, why isnt he makin more efforts to include you in his inner circle? And what the hell? You go to his place and wait for him while hes out with friends? And then whn he returns he dsnt even care? Gosh. Forget abt anythng else but think this.. your not even staying togethr yet hes so indifferent to your presence!

    More than him, this relationship, i think you need to evaluate yourself!! Why are you letting a man treat you like sh*t? So what if your in ur mid 40ies? Dont you think you deserve a loving relatnship respect and a man who values you?

    #941788 Reply
    Anon

    Look into defining your boundaries and your needs in a relationship. How is he meeting any of these? When you realize he is not, you tell him- this is not working out for me because this is my life to live- not live in the shadows of his life and the minimal effort he is giving. Walk away- you will meet someone that treats you well and you will be shocked that you stayed with this guy so long.

    Your comments are what was happening in the relationship- look at what’s happening now and not how it used to be or promises of what it may be in the future.

    I am sorry because this is tough.

    #941792 Reply
    Mary

    It is not time to integrate you in his life. The children are in their teens. They are needed uninterrupted lives. It is about them right now.

    #941793 Reply
    Mary

    *needing

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