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  • #427845 Reply
    oli

    I’ve seen this guy for 6 weeks now, once or twice a week. He has been consistently asking me out and there is a lot of chemistry, we talk for ages, and it’s all good. Last week I stayed over at his place but we only kissed. Tomorrow we are meeting up again. Question is, we are at the point where I can sleep at his but not have sex, but if he does try, what should i say to him? Should I ask him what he is looking for, or should I just state that I don’t do casual sex at leave it at that?

    #427847 Reply
    Annie

    whatever you do, have the conversation in person, not in a text.

    #427858 Reply
    oli

    Yes so if i sleep over at his like i did last time, i would tell him then. But should i ask him or should i just state that i don’t sleep casually or?

    #427866 Reply
    Heather

    Do NOT sleep at his place if you think he will try something. You should set boundaries with him in person before you guys get into that awkward situation. He may think you’re ok with sleeping with him if you’re indeed spending the night.

    #427869 Reply
    Oli

    But it’s been almost 2 months now of spending time with each other, I feel an emotional connection. I want to stay at his and do things just not sex. When I stayed over he didn’t even touch me below my waist so I know he will respect Me, But just wondering if I should ask him what he wants or if I should just casually say I don’t do casual sex

    #427870 Reply
    Khadija

    I would suggest that you not sleep at his house at this point, especially since you are not sure where you stand.

    I’ll also add a man should be earning this intimate personal space with you.

    Leave the sleep overs for exclusive relationships. While you may say no a few times if you are attracted to this man eventually you will give in to the sex. Don’t put yourself in place where you have to say no.

    #427872 Reply
    Alexis

    I second Heather. The only way you’re going to convey that you don’t want casual sex…is by not sleeping over his place.

    Trust me, it will be super awkward and embarrassing if he wants to do the dirty and you say you don’t want that pre-coitus. It will totally change the relationship and dynamic you have. When a guy is sexually frustrated, he gets mad and acts like a pouting two year old. And God forbid this happens to you (it has happened to me) he might even kick you out. THAT is SO embarrassing. And it hurts A LOT.

    I agree with Annie the conversation needs to happen in person.

    #427890 Reply
    Oli

    Thanks everyone :)
    I just read on hookingupsmart that once you have an emotional connection but aren’t yet in a commited relationship (I don’t know him well enough to know if I want him as my bf), that you shouldn’t sleep with him but you can do other things like second base. So none of this until we are more serious?

    #427898 Reply
    Alexis

    If you want to do second base, author Kara King advises, you can make out, but he can only touch the “girls”, nothing else. And if he gets handsy or wants more, just simply say, “we are not in a committed relationship, this is as far as I will go”. Continue to make out. Have a cut off point, then end the night, and sleep in YOUR OWN bed.

    #427899 Reply
    Lady T

    Hi Oli,

    “that you shouldn’t sleep with him but you can do other things like second base. So none of this until we are more serious?”

    Do you want to sleep with him? Do you get the feeling that he’d want to sleep with you if you stay over again?

    #427902 Reply
    Oli

    Thanks, very helpful! I don’t want to have sex with him unless we are in a relationship. So sleeping at his is out of the question then I suppose! I thought it was ok sleeping over but just no sex. So if he asks when I see him, should I just say that he needs to be patient?

    #427904 Reply
    Ivy

    Decide how far you want to go with him and when you are with him in person tell him clearly that you will stay over but “nothing below the belt” or “lets’ keep it at xyz”, but say it nicely. Don’t say I don’t do casual, or yada yada, just a simple “let’s keep it at kissing” or “let’s keep it at above the belt”, is all a guy needs, and if he goes too far, then remind him with a smile, or admit maybe the temptation is too high. And you say this before you get inside his house, before the heat of the moment, you have to plant that seed in advance so he knows where it will and won’t go.

    However, if there is a lot of chemistry it might not be a good idea to sleep over as there may be too much temptation to do more than you actually want to do. You may get caught up in the moment, sometimes it’s hard to stop. If you feel you can handle it then simply decide how far you want to go then communicate it with a smile. If you are concerned that sleeping over will be too tempting to do more than you are ready for then reconsider a full night’s sleepover.

    In my personal experience I have always seemed to go 1 step further than the step that I intended on going, so I try to keep that in mind when I am on the verge of making out with a guy I am seeing. If I feel I am not comfortable with that 1 step caught in the moment further then I try to think in advance of how to navigate the situation, or take 1 step backwards.

    #427907 Reply
    Ivy

    ugh…please do not say to him.. you need to be patient…..mabye “I feel we are still getting to know one another and I enjoy being with you but I’m not ready for sex yet” or something like that… I think you need to be patient is off-putting, and I’d just communicate in a way that tells him you are attracted to him, you see it heading there, but you aren’t ready yet, and even saying you want to know him better tells him you have a particular need in order to get to the sex part, which if he’s interested enough, he’ll make sure that you are indeed getting to know him more…hopefully he’ll open up more meaningful conversation and/or share more so that you can get to the knowing stage, so he can get to the sex stage…lol

    #427909 Reply
    Oli

    Cool, won’t be near his house then unless it is more serious cuz it would be very tempting!

    #427911 Reply
    Andrea

    Just say you are not ready, but you need lots of self-control. I had the same experience sleeping over at my fiancé place but no sex (at the time he was my boyfriend), because we went to day trips almost every weekend and we live 45 minutes away, to save him from picking me up early in the morning, I stayed over and did that for 2 months. He would sleep in the guest room for the nights, but of course it was very hard to say good night before we went to bed separately :) I love those experience sleeping over without sex, until now, the mornings he came to my bed to kiss me are still such sweet memories that I will never forget.

    #427912 Reply
    Andrea

    Oh I didn’t see you are not in a relationship yet. In that case, honestly, I do not think staying over his place is a good idea.

    #427916 Reply
    Laur

    Ok OP, it seems like maybe none of the other posters were harsh enough to say this so let me just TRANSLATE this scenario in man speak for you:

    arranging a sleepover = arranging sex

    Yes, you read that right…repeat it to yourself until you get it thru your head. Lol

    Seriously, it’s that simple. When a woman says, yes, let’s go ahead and plan that sleepover at your house or my house or whatever–yes, lets go ahead and plan to spend like 12 hours together inside a home and sleep next to one another–MEN TAKE THAT AS A COMPLETE GREEN LIGHT FOR SEX. No matter what. They think that’s your classy way of saying, I’m ready for sex with you.

    Hope this helps. Good luck.

    #427918 Reply
    Laur

    It’s like going out to dinner when you do not plan on eating anything

    #427920 Reply
    Oli

    Yes, it all makes sense now. Last week I slept over at his and he was such a gentleman, we just spoke for 2 hours and kissed, he didn’t even try to do more. This is why I thought it was alright, but I’ll step it back a bit and keep it to dates outside of home right?

    #427923 Reply
    Ivy

    I have to disagree with sleepover = sex. Yes, it makes it tempting, but I have had an experience with a guy I was seeing where it was too early for sex but I told him before we got to my place what my boundary was and we kept it at that and he stayed the night too. I am not saying I advise sleepovers cause it is tempting to do more than you intended, but I actually have more than one experience where I communicated it before getting to my door and the guy respected my wishes and we kept it at a level I was ok with at that time.

    #427924 Reply
    Ivy

    Oli – I think you have to decide for yourself what is best for you. Sleepover or not, I think the most important thing for you to do is to honor your own boundary. If you feel it will be too tempting don’t do a sleepover, if you feel you can handle it then communicate your boundary. If you are unsure then avoid the sleepover until you are sure. Nobody can make that decision for you. But when in doubt, less is best.

    #427925 Reply
    Lady T

    I am of NO help in this situation. I am a horrible push over when it comes to sexual temptation. Not one nights stands… But if it’s a guy that I know and like and am attracted to, forget it. I’m done for.

    Oli, I commend you for being so self aware :) Take care. xo

    #427926 Reply
    Laur

    Yes :) You need to understand that men have these blinders on and are just simply wired to constantly gravitate towards sex. it doesnt matter how “nice” or gentlemanly they are. So, what I learned the hard way is, set VERY CLEAR boundaries with a man in order to dictate the timing of sex. If you are wishy-washy, he will win. If you are ambivalent, unclear, mixed signals, unsure, etc, he will win. And by “win” I mean set the sexual pace before you do. AFter having sex the first time, you cannot go backwards. From there on out, it will be a part of the relationsihp, and it WILL change thigns for better or worse. So, you don’t come right out and say, I want to wait on sex. That sounds manipulative and no man will receive that well. Instead, you plan dates that facilitate what you want. For example, a rowdy club= closer to sex. A quiet dinner= emotional connection. A home date= sex.

    You cannot always control a man’s sexual timing but you must try. It’s like leading a drug addict thru a drug shop, lol. It’s YOUR job to put on the big girl pants and steer him one direction or another. That is subconsciously how a man knows what type of girl you are.

    #427929 Reply
    Khadija

    @ Laur, you have made some really good points.

    #427931 Reply
    Oli

    Yeah, some really excellent points from all of you. The last guy we Waited 2 months to have sex and after that he never contacted me again which made me realise I really want and need a deep connection before sleeping together. Anyways, thank you x x

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