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Can I change this in my mid 20s? I don’t like this, I hate this I hate it so much, I want to be normal, I want to have a loving girl, I want to avoid worrying daily, fighting in courts, going to therapy, taking meds etc. I want to be like all the other men. I use my intelligence and such to manipulate others because I quite frankly hate my life, I feel nothing goes right for me and I only wake up because I have two boys who need me! I do not like to manipulate people, I want to utilize my intelligence in a way that will make me a good employee and father honest to god.
I was just talking to someone about this car accident I had, I watched my Land Rover burn to the frame. I thought me, my 9 month old son, and my ex were dead when we hit several trees and crossed the highway and hit a woman’s car. But life still stands, none of us in both cars were injured, so I believe, I have hope, I could have died long before I came here but here I am alive and able to type.
Yes I am an aggressive writer, I do not hesitate to lash back. I just want it to be understood, like okay Jason is aggressive but at the same time he also wants to change and wants to improve future relationships with women, no bad intentions…..NONE.
lauraIf you really want to change then you’ll find a way to do it…not for the children, not for a woman but for YOU. Only you can do it. Seek counselling. Meds will help in the short term but long term it needs to come from you. Good luck
redcurleysueThe first thing to understand is that you are a good person. Deep down there is a man who wants to come out and be who you desire to be.
It takes work to change things. No one does it overnight….it is one step at a time. Continue getting help and be kind to yourself.
Second forgive everyone….including yourself…that is a tall order but once you truly forgive everyone your path will clear immensely and you will have then the power to make other changes. You want to blame people….and yourself….that leads to destruction of self and is a prison in your mind and heart…
BedazzleThe only way to change is to work on your relationship with you. When you (not just you but all humans) are in harmony with yourself and your higher self, you are happy. When you are out of harmony, you are happy.
We all have an inner emotional guidance system. When we are aligned things feel good and when we are out of alignment things feel bad. A good first step is to learn to start paying attention to that. If things feel good you will be on the right track. If things feel bad, pay attention to what is going on. This is your indicator that you have something to work with to change.
For example, you spoke of lashing back. For any of us lashing back does not feel that good. It may feel good in the moment, but ultimately it is not who we want to be. Instead of lashing back, take a moment to start understanding what it was that tweaked you. What got you feeling like you need to lash back?
Then start writing to yourself, for yourself, not to be posted here. Try and sooth yourself so you start feeling better. For example, someone wrote something you don’t like. Write down whatever that was and then write down everything that makes you angry about that situation.
For example someone responded and your knee jerk reaction was to prove you are smart and not stupid (just an example). Then for yourself you write.
I am angry because they think I am stupid. I am not stupid, it makes me mad every time I hear that. I am mad because my mom (again just an example here) told me I was stupid every day. I am angry at my mom. I am angry at my teacher for failing me in my class. I am not stupid!
Once you get clear on whatever it is that you are upset about and write it down, then start taking steps to make yourself feel better.
On the forum it is really hard to read context. That does not mean I am stupid.
It could just be a misunderstanding.
Lashing back does not feel good. It takes a lot of energy.
I am safe. Nothing has happened to me.
I think I am pretty smart. I got a A on my exam.
I like feeling better and not be a mad.
I like feeling good.
It feels so much better to feel good than to lash back.
I probably just misunderstood what was being written.
They probably misunderstood too.
For the most part, people do try to do the right thing.
I want to feel better. I am feeling better.This is a way to talk yourself into feeling better. This is also the ticket to long lasting change. The more you focus on what does not work, the more you keep it in place. When you can start making yourself feel better and changing where you focus, eventually the stuff that got you upset won’t even affect you and you might even find it funny that it did bug you.
Be patient with yourself and kind to yourself. Use this process diligently and you will be amazed and how quickly you can turn your life around.
Writing a list of what you are grateful for also helps change your focus, although you need to do it when you are feeling better. You won’t be able to do it when you are feeling bad.
Your thought patterns that have you feeling bad, have a pretty strong momentum and that is why you have to write yourself into a better feeling place to stop that momentum and create a feeling good momentum.
BedazzleWhen you are out of harmony, you are NOT happy.
AdviceI couldn’t cut and paste, but if you read Jason’s thread about ..cryptic messages from women’ you will see just what you are dealing with. He is very clear how he believes he can wrap women around his fingers (including you all) and how he takes pleasure in manipulating. In addition, he did a great job of being an equal opportunist and shot Will V. Down on the thread titled gf having dinner with 30 year…’ Where he was most obnoxious to the OP and it was totally uncalled for.
My post on April 3 in that thread summarizes my advice and opinion on the topic.
That’s all I want to share on this topic.
ShannonMaybe you need to take a break. Dealing with a hostile ex wife is definitely bound to bring back any mommy issues you have dealt with in the past and make things more difficult. I personally am not a fan of the whole “you’ll find someone when you’re not looking,” line of thinking because I didn’t look for years and was alone. But realize, you need to heal. The worst thing you can do is instead of dealing with your pain, jumping into another relationship as a band aid to cover it up. It’s not just you, this is a common way men deal with things. I read somewhere that women actually get over break ups than men faster…although on the surface it doesn’t seem that way. And that’s because they’re encouraged to cry it all out and deal with their pain while men swallow it down and try to deny it so it keeps resurfacing.
I’ve seen some of your posts and have been taken aback by some of the hostility directed at the original posters. I don’t condone that; please remember that some of the people writing here are not in a good frame of mind so you need to try to be kind and understand that they’re hurting. However, unlike others, I understand you. Many years ago my father, who lived with me, was sick and dying of cancer. I was active on a now defunct advice forum and I created a troll personna, mainly to mock some of the frequent posters I didn’t like. I didn’t really give bad advice or harmful advice to people, but I cringe to think of some of the things I did write. And I was around your age when I did it. I realize now I was in so much pain I needed some sort of outlet and so I lashed out at people. And some of those people even deserved it, to be fair. But, that wasn’t me doing those things and it wasn’t a statement of my character. I was not myself during that time. So, unlike some that want to diagnose you with some sort of mental illness and/or character flaw, I realize that this is not you. You are not yourself.
RavenYou are an adult now… Stop blaming & make the changes you know you need to make.
Jason@ Laura: Thank you, I meet with a doctor for therapy every friday morning, I am now going to be meeting with my primary care once every month.
I aspire to be a psych doctor so I know the importance of therapy, I stopped going for a few years but am not back on track, again thank you.
Jason@redcurleysue: You are right, I do beat my self up mostly by drinking and smoking, I hate myself at times for the mistakes I have made for not utilizing my intelligence in the proper way. I absolutely am hurt, this woman threatened to kill me last night, this was the woman who I considered dropping my anti-marriage beliefs for and she threatened to have me killed last night. I can only just laugh, everything I thought I knew may be untrue, in fact maybe I am not as intelligent as everyone says, maybe I know nothing!
Jason@Bedazzle: Thank you so much, this is one of the best posts of advice I have gotten on this site, I am going to keep reading it, and when like you said my anger and emotions calm down (maybe tomorrow idk) I am really going to give it a shot, thank you so much, I really appreciate the effort you gave to help me.
I grew up being a shy and anxiety having child, I let people put me down, bully me physically and mentally, so I really regret that and now just insist on always fighting back, telling myself nobody is EVER going to bully me again. It has made me very argumentative, I broke my own rule last night to only speak with my ex about our children, I cussed her out, I got aggressive, I broke down every little bit of her psychological make up and she lashed back (of course) and threatened to have me killed. I was doing so good avoiding getting personal, treating it like business transactions and only speaking about/to the children, but I screwed up lol.
MariaWhat I’d like to know is how this accident happened. Were you under the influence?
There is not much shame in aggression, you are a a guy after all. It is how you use it. You need to channel it into something positive or at least neutral. Acting on your lowest urges is addictive, the more you act on them, the stronger they become. Feeding your demons it is called.
But simply suppressing them is not going to work. You need to channel this energy into something. Or replace it with something. If you merely try to suppress it, it will only grow stronger.
And what a question, can I change in my mid 20s? Of course you can change. A person can change at anytime if they want to. Do you see what you want to be? Can you visualize it?
What Bedazzle said is true: for as long as you are ungrateful to what you already have, you won’t be happy.
You first need to acknowledge and be grateful for things that you have: your youth, your health, your children, your energy, your body not missing any limbs and not being paralyzed. Not being hungry and cold, having a roof over your head and a comfortable bed to sleep, a hot shower, a hot cup of coffee in the morning.
Someone said, you can’t enjoy small things, you will not be happy. And it is so true. Life is a collage of all those small things.
Start recognizing them and enjoying them one at a time. Appreciating yourself, your life and the mere fact of your existence. Much like animals do. They don’t question the past or wonder about the future, they enjoy the NOW.
In your anguish you lock yourself in the anger about the past and torment yourself with fears about the future. Instead, use your strong energy and get out of this trap. Enjoy small things, one at a time. Talk to an old friend over the phone, feel the joy from doing it. Have a nice meal, love it. Cultivate and grow warm energy, use your forceful nature to direct yourself towards joy.
If you don’t feed your demons they will starve and die with time.
aliaWow! What lovely lovely things the ladies have written. I mean this forum itself, and the people here is a blessing.
Jason, I wanted to touch on something you mention another time. It’s about your addiction. I agree with the school of thought that addiction is an attachment disorder. There is book about that that sheds so much light on this issue, by Philip J. Flores, “Addiction is an Attachment Disorder”.
You said you went to a AA meeting, but you are not religious, so the “higher power” thing doesn’t work for you.
To me the 12 step program is an amazing thing. I think it’s more aligned with Buddhism than it is with Christianity. The higher power is nature. The fact you were born a human. That is higher power. Nature determined what you are, not you. You never chose to be a human, did you? I never a chose to be a woman, etc. But here we are. We are human beings, created by the higher power – nature, the universe.
I always recommend Kamal Ravikant and his book, “Live your Truth”, this is his quote: “I promise you that the same stuff galaxies are made of, you are. The same energy that swings planets around stars makes electrons dance in your heart. It is in you, outside you, you are it. It is beautiful. Trust in this. And you your life will be grand.”
I also think you may have channeled all that is anxiety and self hatred in you, into hating women. It’s not unlike what our friend Mike has done, and you guys are very similar in that way. So it’s an avenue you chose in the circumstances you were in, but it doesn’t have to be that way. You can change all of it. And so can Mike. Where we came from and what we learned doesn’t have to define us. We can re-define ourselves. But it takes some major balls.
Also, when you started your family at 15, you were nowhere near to be ready. It’s admirable you did, but you had 15 years ahead of you to mature, and some of that time was taken away from you. You were thrown into having to be an adult, to be responsible, when you were not an adult mentally. You are 25 now, you are just turning into a full adult.
Of course you can change. Everyone has a capacity for change. Life is change, life is movement. But change takes guts, can you really face your pain and let the pain flow through you without resisting? Resistance is stagnation, comfort, memory; growth is change, change is love, change is life.
I believe you will do great.Eric CharlesKeymasterI’ll share a rule that I have for myself, and you may find it helpful:
I *do not* expect that I will never have a negative thought triggered in my mind.
However, the moment I become conscious of it, I can and will choose not to feed into it at all.
If it’s a negative thought and I receive the greatest clue that my thinking is off-track (because it feels back), that’s when I have the power to CHOOSE to drop it right there immediately… without further examination or feeding into it.
This is not suppression… this is just recognizing and gently letting go.
There is so much beauty and positive things you can put your attention on… more than you ever could in a lifetime… so seeing as I have a limited life span, I’ll choose to put my attention on THAT and not on negative thinking/memories/outlooks, etc.
I ask myself how much time I want to use thinking about negative things? And how much it’s ever helped me.
My answers are: None… and it hasn’t helped when I do.
So I make a choice as soon as I consciously can to not feed into the negativity. It’s a lifestyle choice, like diet & exercise… and I have never regretted it since giving up feeding into negativity.
Just the opposite, in fact. My life has become better by an enormous degree in every area.
One extra motivating factor for me is that my vibe determines my attractiveness… and my vibe is directly determined by my mood.
If my mood is determined by my thinking, then why would I sacrifice not only my happiness but also my attractiveness for negative thinking… which has given me nothing but misery, anger and isolation?
I learned to love “letting go” of all negativity because I had also been so deeply addicted to it for so long… I mean, I was bad… and when I became financially successful, I got worse (because I could isolate myself and never have to leave my house for weeks if I wanted).
When I was addicted to the negativity (as in, I chose to “feed into” the negative thinking without even questioning if that’s what I wanted for myself), I would exhaust myself mentally, psychologically and emotionally… and then to “numb myself out” I would marathon watching movies/TV shows to distract myself from feeding deeper into my negative thinking.
I encourage you to keep pursuing therapy… as you do, I know you will find that you are the only person who can make this choice for yourself… I hope you find what I found for myself… I live a great (and very happy) life now because of that one major lifestyle choice.
Good luck.
JB“One extra motivating factor for me is that my vibe determines my attractiveness… and my vibe is directly determined by my mood.”
Excellent point Eric, this should be on a plaque!
SpysDemiseBut Jason… you posted here a while back that you had to call your family because you felt like killing your ex who is the mother of your children. Why do you think you would attract anyone else but the same level as you are projecting?? You’re schizo dude. You keep posting about the same stuff over and over but you won’t take the advice to change yourself. Before you think about trying to help other people with their stuff, you really need to clear up your own shit. Get with some men. Hanging out with a bunch of women isn’t helping you, it’s keeping you entrenched in your shit. You won’t take responsibility for yourself and your beliefs. It’s always, I can’t help it, I grew up with these dysfunctional women. Dude, this is the last place you should be hanging out then. This is a whole bunch of women who are not in good relationships either and are trying to learn and you aren’t helping any of them or yourself by blowing hot and cold here. The women who do have it together who did try to advise you, you insulted and blew off.
Jason@Maria thank you very much for taking the time, let me try to tackle your post as best as I can.
The accident was at 10 AM I was completely sober honest to god, a man clipped my right mirror on the right side so I moved slightly left to avoid it, it was too late, it was a few weeks before Christmas so there was a TON of snow (MA you know) and then the brakes were bad so I slid on some ice and hit several trees, boom, boom, boom lol thankfully they were small trees or I may not be posting this. So all I remember was defensive driving two hands on the wheels fighting with the breaks, my ex screaming crying jumping back holding onto our babies car seat. She got a concussion because of that taking off her seat belt and such so her head jerked, baby had no issues nor me. So anyways after all the trees I crashed into a car on the opposite side of the highway with two elderly women, both were uninjured thankfully, at the time I thought I killed someone and a guy told me the car was smoking helped get the car seat out and we sat in his warm car and watched it burn, highway was covered in thick black smoke. Scariest moment in my 25 years I tell you that.
But I know I forgot what I was going to say but Maria I use writing as a tool, I love to write, poems, short stories, novellas, and music. So there is that so yeah, I started this post like 2 hours ago and lost my train of thought lol.
Jason@alia, you make a good point, I have told people at AA that my higher power is nature, the sun the trees etc. They still push Christian god on me so maybe I just need to find better meetings. I think my perceived anger towards women may mostly stem from my ex, it was not this bad before her 10 years ago, abusing me mentally, cheating on me, and now refusing to let me see my kids/trying to dictate my relationship with them has taken a huge toll on me. Thank you.
Sorry everyone I am trying to tackle this thread one post at a time.
SpysDemiseNever once have you taken responsibility for anything Jason. It’s all about what others do to you. Stop blaming your ex and your mother and all women.
Start tackling your issues there. You keep attracting the same stuff over and over with your messed up belief system.
You say you are an aggressive poster and you will bite back when bitten. You take great pleasure in bragging about how you know how to break people down psychologically. The laugh’s on you mate. You’re reaping exactly what you are sowing. Seriously??? You wonder why your life is the way it is???? Look in the mirror. It’s not anyone but you causing all of this.
Jason@Eric, wow that is deep and powerful stuff, not sure what to say, will have to give it a few more reads. I do know you said it is not suppression and that is what I fear, having it buried and maybe one day someone says something at work and I lose it, as well as my job.
I think I was trying to point that out to another poster, I can go in tomorrow head up high giving high fives and telling jokes making all the co-workers laugh, being happy telling everyone good morning. Also I can go in head down, avoidance, not wanting to talk to anyone, just punch in work and punch out and go back home.
I know I pointed out the novella about Jekyl and Hyde because I relate, I can possibly be the loving intelligent doctor, or simply a mad man. Someone here said I go back and forth with my personality here but it isn’t by choice, I cannot simply dictate all of this on a whim hence why I seek therapy and medication. Nobody knows which Jason will show up for work tomorrow, not even myself!
Jason@SpysDemise: I am sure I have stated I take full responsibility that my alcohol dependency has played a major role in losing my relationship, losing my kids, failing and being out of college for almost 3 years, it has lost friendships, and estranged family members including one of my brothers. Hell my sister died when were on bad terms, I went to the hospital and apologized kissed her said I love her, but her brain was done at that point.
It has led me to lose the two best jobs I have ever had, I mean the list can go on and on, but just know yes I acknowledge it. I can sit here and type: YES Jason messed up, he mad terrible decisions in the past 15 years or so, he has unhealthy addictions physically and mentally, he knows a lot of this could have been prevented, but he doesn’t own a time machine so he can only move forward.
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