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Daisy
My boyfriend and I have been dating for almost 6 months and have been living together for 3 months. I heard around 6-8 months is when relationships start to lose the spark (going from passionate, fun and flirty) , and transition into the comfortable stage (to trusting, open and respectful stage).
My boyfriend and I would both be at work, we’d come home, kiss each other/cuddle hello (then he’d have time to himself and have a long shower) and then usually end up cuddling and watching our shows together, or we would go downtown for a walk, or go to dinner… we just made the effort to do activities together once we both got home.Now, for the past week…we would come home, he wouldnt kiss me unless i ask and we wouldnt cuddle, he’d have his shower but then he would just go on the computer and do his own thing or nap which would lead to sleep – however When he’s on the computer or he wakes up from his sleep he would cuddle me. We haven’t had sex in two weeks even when I try to verbally initiate/ try to visually stimulate by walking around naked. I just don’t feel the sense of connection anymore, he just seems so distant. I’m not sure if he is just getting comfortable and wants to his space and do his own thing… or if he REALLY is distancing himself from me (as in getting bored or not being interested).
He works 8-10 hours days moving furniture but he hasn’t complained to me recently that he’s tired. I mean when he’s on the computer he’d stay up all night sometimes.
Note: he’d go on the computer because he wants to become a DJ or something so he is trying to use all these MAC apps for Djing and does a lot of research. His current job he likes but it’s not the type of career he wants.
Also, when we first dated he used to express to everyone & me how much he loves me and everything… like he would literally say “WOW I love you so much please don’t ever leave me”. now he never expresses his feelings towards me and so I miss that and along with him acting distant after work, it makes me wonder if it’s him losing interest….
Do you ladies / and/or gents (if you’re on here) think that my boyfriend is really losing interest?
We have plans this weekend to look after his brothers dog.. but I have an assignment to write and so we will probably both have a lack-luster weekend :(
But next weekend my boyfriend suggested us going to his friends cottage, so I hope that weekend we can get back some of the love!Any advice? Thoughts/opinions?
Thank you,
DaisyJudyHey Daisy,
I don’t know much about your relationship, so I don’t want to point you in the wrong direction. But- remember that relationships have ups and downs…maybe this is just one of those “down” times and you have nothing to worry about.However, if your intuition is telling you something is up, I would pay attention. Don’t say anything, but maybe just sit back and observe his behavior…see how it goes. Don’t panic, don’t rush…just observe. You’ll figure it out :)
DaisyThanks, Judy!
To be honest it’s hard to just sit back and watch ahah. I’m almost afraid of going home because of the possibility of him being distant. It just hurts a lot, because I was so used to us being attached at the hip. One can’t help but assume it’s something against me… even though I’ve heard of men naturally distancing because they’re getting comfortable.
I also think it could have to do with me because he’s admitted before he’s gotten bored of the women he was in relationships with.buttercupDo you live together?
LAgirlIn my experience it is normal to want time to yourself, but doing so should not feel as if you are being distanced from. It’s a little early to be losing interest or the ‘spark’ IMO.
I am with my fiance now, living together and been together for almost 7 months now. We spend a great deal of time together still at the end of the day – go to gym together, cook, etc. Then may take time to do our own thing (computer, tv,etc).
I don’t think you have to be joined at the hip, but the sudden lack of affection would bother me too.
Have you argued recently? Anything come up work wise, personal wise that is creating stress… this can be a symptom of lack of interest, or dealing with stress. I know when I have had stressful days at work, sometimes I just want to chill and not be overly social.
DaisyWe haven’t gotten into a fight no… I think maybe he was just caught up in work and wanting space.
I have a new issue though…
we went out to a bar and we talked to this girl. we were all pretty drunk (the girl, my boyfriend and i) and all of a sudden my boyfriend asked me if I wanted a threesome. I am not bi sexual but i do like hooking up with girls and my boyfriend has told me many times before that he only wants to be with me and he doesnt think of being with any other girls in that way… so i was confused why he asked for a threesome. he told me he felt our sex life has been dull (it’s true because we hadnt had sex in like 2 weeks)… and that it would be more for me . he said he wouldnt touch her he would just watch because he wants me to be pleased.we hooked up and during it he asked if he could play with her and i said yes but now i immediately regret it. I am jealous. he told me he wouldnt do anything i was uncomfortable with and i thought i would be ok with him touching her but now that i think about it, it bothers me. mostly just the girl and i hooked up like he didnt perform oral on her he just fingered her and he kissed her (but i told him to stop kissing and he said sorry it was the heat of the moment and he wont do it again).
after the hook up he kept telling the girl its a one time thing and we were just doing it to experiment. she asked about our relationship and he told her he loves me and would never cheat. i told him i was still jealous and he said that i shouldnt be because i was hooking up with her mostly but he said we could do a threesome with two guys.
now things are better he keeps cuddling me and texting and things have been good. i guess maybe its a good thing we did this ??
im just kind of upset that he asked for a threesome in the first place since he’s told me before that he doesnt see any other girl attractive. i mean i guess since he told me that the girl was essentially for ME and that he doesnt think shes that attractive i guess maybe he just thought it would help us, and not that he wanted someone else in bed? i mean we never got her number after and he actually kicked her out. he also said he had always wanted to try a threesome just once and now its off his bucket listthoughts/ opinions?
AnnaThreesomes are VERY emotionally challenging, especially if it is with someone you love and care about and have a feeling of being special or exclusive with.
It is REALLY important to go into it knowing what the challenges will be, and ONLY do it because you truly want to and are ready.
Jealousy is totally normal, BUT if you want a good relationship with him you HAVE to address this within yourself and deal with it, not expect him to. He honestly did everything “right” in the sense of making you feel loved and special, BUT that is not going to do any good so long as you are vulnerable to interpreting transient attraction to someone else as meaning something about YOUR lovability or worthiness. Be AWARE of all the issues, fears, doubts that this brings up within you and deal with them as your OWN issues, do NOT put the blame for this on him. It is wonderful to talk openly about it, but the only way to do it is to fully OWN your fears about this, realize that your fears coming up is a GOOD thing, because you can deal with them and release them. In this case it’s a matter of dealing with everything that comes up within you, honestly and openly, not blaming or attacking him or making him wrong for “making” you feel this way….he is very clear about how much he loves and cares about you and that you ARE special to him….the fact that he can feel this way AND transiently be attracted to other women all the time is a paradox that we all need to deal with, whether we’re acting on it through threesomes or not. It is INSANE to expect that just because someone loves you that they will NEVER be attracted to anyone else…..if this were the case I would RUN from the guy because it means the feelings are obsession, not love. But that doesn’t sound like it’s the case – he sounds open and honest and like he cares about you, and I think if you can own your fears and feelings about this, and when you are feeling in a good, calm place about it, SHARE this experience with him without ANY hint of blame, or accusation, or indication that he did something wrong, it will be incredibly powerful for your relationship.
It honestly sounds like a really good thing for your relationship overall. If he ever sees you with another guy, or even imagines it, he will have to deal with all of this as well.
A really good book on this topic is “The Ethical Slut.” It’s about moving through all these experiences of fear and jealousy that come up, and embracing that, allowing it to teach us more about ourselves and love the other person more deeply.
At its best, threesomes etc will give you a deeper and more powerful sense of the authenticity of the special bond you share….you will realize that it transcends sex and mere “rules” about exclusivity (which most of the time we set up to protect ourselves from feelings of jealousy and fear) and is actually so powerful that EVEN WHEN you have sex with other people, it endures and lasts and grows stronger. And you realize that you can love your partner so fully that this love embraces ALL of their attractions and desires, not just those directed at you. And vice versa.
It is NOT easy!! Be proud of how brave you have been and use this experience to keep moving forward in your relationship and learning to love ever more deeply….
xoxo
AnnabuttercupFantasies, in my opinion, are best left in the head! The reality never lives up to the imagination.
The way I see it….he knows you like girls too. All men have fantasies of girl on girl. Maybe seeing you do this freaked him out. Maybe seeing you enjoying yourself so much with a girl made him insecure. Maybe he thinks thats what you really prefer.
I dont know. Wouldn’t be my thing. I would not handle watching my partner with someone else.
I think he’s right to keep it as a one off. Surely repeats of these occurrences will lead to trouble eventually.
DaisyThanks Anna and Buttercup!
I definitely don’t want another threesome with another girl… I would only do it with another guy but I’m afraid he might feel the same jealousy as I am going through. However he does get jealous if I’m with another girl but for some reason he wasn’t jealous about the threesome. I guess i have to accept the fact he is capable of wanting to do things with other women… it’s just hard because he ORIGINALLY said he didn’t want anyone else.. and I guess he still means what he said because he’s never CHEATED and the threesome was meant to be for ME… but I think that things got heated and he got too turned on to NOT want to do something, right?LaneI agree with buttercup. Bringing in another person to try and fix your relationship is not going to work. You need to get to the bottom of what’s going on between the two of you because all you’ve done is add GAS to a fire and now are dealing with a whole other issue!
You need to open up the lines of communication here. In a calm voice just say “hey, I’ve noticed we aren’t spending as much quality time together and I miss you.” By approaching it in a confrontational manner but expressing your concerns should be a priority or it will continue to fester which isn’t good for you, him or the relationship.
DaisyLane,
since Saturday when it happened, we have gotten a lot closer. we spent all of sunday cuddling in bed… however he didn’t want to have sex with me because he “wasn’t in the mood” … maybe because he was a bit insecure of me hooking up with another girl? maybe he needs time to get over it before we start having sex again.
im going to try to have sex with him again tonight and if he brushes me off then i’ll calmly ask whats wrongLAgirlI would try to discuss this with him.
The fact he jumped into spontaneously doing a three way (while you were drunk) sounds problematic to me. This is not a mature way of doing such a thing. As others pointed out above, bringing someone else into the relationship requires discussion/agreement/rules etc. You never had the chance to do such a thing and certainly could not do so in an intoxicated state.
The problem with his approach is that it does not solve the initial problem he stated which was being bored in the bedroom. A one night 3 way is just that – one time. What else is he going to want to do now? He said a male/male three way?
Then what?
Do you see what I mean? This is something that you both need to figure out together. If you want to spice up your sex, it should be in a way that you both agree to and decide the course of action. Spontaneious is great if you try a new sex position – not so much, when you just decide last minute to pick up a total stranger at a bar…. can you say STDs?
This is not just about him and yet you seem to be assuming he feels a certain way without him actually telling you. This is a huge mistake we women tend to make… we come to conclusions about how a man is feeling and yet we are not in his head and have no idea unless he tells us. This leads us to say and do things that are not in our best interest and may totally be unrelated to where his head is really at.
What I really don’t like about his approach is the fact that he chose to distance himself from you and make you the bad guy. He basically punished you for not giving HIM what he wanted sexually. Do you realize that in doing so it made you desperate to please him? I understand this approach. It’s manipulative and I have experienced it with other men. I had a man pressure me into a 3 way years ago. Told me that if we did it together he would not be interested in wanting other women. That it would be good for me and for US. Turned out he cheated on me the whole 4 years we were together.
I don’t say this to make you paranoid, but I DO say it to make you aware. 6 months is not a very long time to know someone and you moved in together very quickly. In reality you really do not know this man… I would have a talk with him and see where it goes. Don’t be emotional, be calm and practical.
A mature relationship does not look like this.
I wish you the best.
MelI would be well concerned that he asked in the first place. I have had many guys tell me that of course this is a fantasy of theirs but they would never do it with the woman that they intended to marry it would be disrespectful to her. In fact my BF has even told me this that he would want to but not with the woman he would make his wife, ( thank goodness he hasn’t asked me I would turn him down flat ) I am all up for experimenting but I would never allow another person into my room with the one I wanted a life with. And quite honestly neither do most men.
LaneIts good that you’re coming together again. I meant to say “non-confrontational” manner (not confrontational), whereas you need to be able to communicate with each other about these issues or you will find yourself sacrificing too much and end up miserable. Men can sense when you’re not happy or satisfied and can withdraw based on how YOU FEEL, so if your feelings aren’t his then talking to him could have a negative effect.
I understand a man’s need for space and if you react negatively to it, it could make him withdraw further. When a guy goes into his man cave, if you just let him do his thing and keep busy by disengaging and taking some “me time” such as hanging out with friends, family, activities, going on a trip with the girls, etc. they will come out much faster.
Most woman want to talk, talk, talk about what they need or want. The biggest mistake women make is that they’re so focused on what THEY NEED, they don’t take the time to understand his, which is why a positive result isn’t achieved and the partners drift farther apart. The art of negotiation and learning how to resolve conflicts are critical skills to learn and use, not only in professional relationships, but personal as well. Try to find some books on how to properly communicate with men to help you achieve the right results :-)
AnnaDaisy,
Threesomes CAN be a fabulous, fantastic dimension of an intimate, committed, mature relationship. Just because it’s not for everybody doesn’t mean it is wrong.
HOWEVER, this requires EXQUISITE communication skills and a fabulous, thoroughly satisfying sex life and relationship beforehand. As other commenters have mentioned, if there are any issues whatsoever in the relationship, a threesome will not solve them but likely only make those fault lines more visible (and possibly more painful).
Threesomes require secure, complete, total love for your partner …. ANY insecurities, fears, or doubts you have about your relationship will be brought to the surface in a VERY primal way…. dealing with your relationship and your sex life first is absolutely crucial.
Personally, I would ONLY marry a guy who was open to threesomes, because I love playing with girls. But that’s just me, my preferences, and I would never enter into a relationship without making this completely explicit beforehand.
But that’s just me, my preferences – YOU need to decide what’s right for you at any given moment. NOT based on what other people think, and not based on attempting to please your partner …. think about what’s right for YOU.
IF you are uncomfortable with your partner being attracted to other people, threesomes aren’t a great idea at all. If you’re making out with a naked girl and he’s supposed to not feel ANYTHING at all and just remain totally cold….well that doesn’t sound too fun at all! The JOY of threesomes is your mutual expansion of attraction to include other people….the idea is you all get turned on together. There are plenty of ways to maintain your special connection even when other people are there, but if you have no interest in seeing your partner with another person, it just doesn’t seem like a great idea. If it’s always going to be a competition between you and the other person, or if you’re going to feel judged or rejection by any expression of attraction to another person, I wouldn’t do it. IF you can face all the fears and insecurities that threesomes bring up and move beyond them, this can be a VERY powerful experience that will solidify and enhance your love and connection. But if you do it before you’re ready, or without clear communication before, during, and after, it can be EXTREMELY painful and destructive.
NEVER do anything sexually just because your partner wants to. LOTS of guys fantasize about threesomes – the REAL red flag is, at LAgirl points out, if it becomes a CONDITION of your relationship or of his attraction to or desire to be with you, and you agree to something you don’t want just to save the relationship. This doesn’t sound like it’s the case, but some open discussion may go along way toward reassuring you on this point.
MOST people cannot and do not want to handle the stress and complications that can arise from inviting other people into your sex life. It can be fabulous but it is will test you!!! However, now that you HAVE experienced this together, I think the best approach is to just learn from it and use it as an opening to communication that needed to be there in the first place.
Honestly I would NOT get caught up in obsessing over his momentary attraction for another girl – presumably you were attracted to her too, so you’re BOTH dealing with unresolved jealousy, trust, and commitment issues if this is bringing up pain.
But, if you can deal with the pain, fear, and uncertainty that this triggers in an open and honest way, I think your relationship has the potential to become MUCH more wonderful and committed and satisfying because of it. Don’t stew in your musings about what it all meant. ASK the questions you need to ask him. Are you special to him? Does he want a life with you? Etc. Whatever you need to ask. Talk to him about it (in a calm, mature, non-confrontational way), rather than guessing what he feels. He probably has questions for you too! :-)
xoxo
AnnaAlso, know that CHOOSING you is a different, much more powerful and realistic thing than saying “I will never be attracted to anybody else ever.”
Personally, I think that saying “I WANT to be with you and I CHOOSE you” is very different than saying “I feel ZERO ZILCH ANYTHING for any other girl ever.” What he’s saying is that nobody COMPARES to you.
Maybe he sensed you were insecure and was attempting to reassure you by saying he would NEVER feel attraction to anyone else? Because NO ONE can promise that, and it would be ridiculous to try.
If you both expect that being together means you will never be attracted to anyone else, you will cause yourself ENORMOUS pain.
People in monogamous relationships FEEL attraction to all kinds of people all the time….but they choose not to act on it, and to channel that attraction back into their relationship in various ways.
People in open relationships FEEL attraction to all kinds of people all the time…..they choose WHEN and IF to act on it, and to channel that attraction back into their relationship in various ways.
Ultimately, if you are rendered hopelessly insecure and distraught and anxious by the thought of your partner’s attraction to somebody else, you need to focus on self-love and self-respect more than anything. This is the basis of any honest, secure, mature relationship. You cannot truly love your partner or be committed to them if you cannot accept that they will feel attraction to other people all the time. You can’t be honest with yourself or your partner if you aren’t secure enough to deal with the reality of human attraction and the changeable nature of human desire.
In my experience, the MORE you accept this dimension of your partner and of yourself, the more honest your relationship will be, and the less you’ll have to live in fear of deception and infidelity. Accepting the full spectrum of your partner’s attractions and desires doesn’t mean that you accept unhealthy behavior or that you tolerate deception. Quite the opposite. It’s only when we feel COMPLETELY accepted in all of our contradictory feelings and desires that we are free to be completely honest in a relationship. If you REJECT the aspects of your partner that do not agree with you (including their fantasies and desires), you are setting yourselves up for deception and unhappiness. Accepting their desires doesn’t mean you have to do anything you don’t want to do, or be a part of a relationship that doesn’t suit you – there’s always negotiation and free choice.
But I truly believe the ONLY way to love someone is to accept them fully and completely for who they are. If you cannot accept any desire or attraction in your partner that does not relate to you, you are rejecting that part of them. You are always free to be or not be with someone based on their actions and how they align with your desires. BUT if you choose to love someone, I think DEMANDING that they love and are attracted to ONLY you has the opposite effect that you desire …. in my experience it’s when people feel absolutely FREE to embrace their attraction for everyone they encounter that they are MUCH more powerfully drawn to the one person they actually want to be with. Because it’s a free choice, and therefore MUCH more meaningful and powerful and special than it it were merely a rule or requirement.
butterfingerDear Daisy this man might be married in a love triangle .
NoeliaGYou guys have been dating for 6 months and he doesn’t want to have sex!! and days after the threesome is not in the mood to be with you?.Sorry dear but that is a huge red flag for me, something else is going on. all the ladies have great advice, good luck.
TaivasI don’t think him bringing up the threesome is a real issue, as I know some couple friends who regularly do threesomes and “other things” and are incredibly happy together, no jealousy, and enjoy their love to the fullest. Again, it is not for everyone, and seemingly this is not for you – not for now, at least, and also not with him. To me it gave me the impression that you did it mainly to please him and because you felt insecure from the fact that your sex life with him was not do good. So thought that way would spice it up – which basically it didn’t since apparently he is “not in the mood”.
I personally think that saying your sex life is dull already 6 months in it is way, way, way too early. At that stage not only you are still getting to know each other, but you are also still discovering each other’s body – and thus, the attraction or “the mood” cannot be gone so quickly. Usually you Should start thinking that your sex life is dull perhaps after a couple of years, when things are more comfortable, and even then…
I agree you two went to live together too early as well. Big mistake, but I also did that mistake in the past and so I understand the feeling. When feeling together, it is best to be aware that you need to do a bit more of an effort to keep the spark alive. The problem with losing that spark is because we always enter into this comfortable zone once we have acquired a bond, trust and so on, so we believe we are secure in a relationship. But actually in a relationship it is good to always keep it fresh, to have each other his own space (even trips apart from each other) and so on – do you have that? It sounds more like he had work, comes back home, falls asleep. What do you do of your days? Does he always find you home when he comes back? Perhaps you should focus on making your life a bit more exciting.
Too long of a message already, so my main 3 points:
a) a bit too early to lose the spark. Perhaps you two are not that compatible, because 6 months is still within honeymoon stage, usually.
b) you two went to live together a bit too soon. Try to have each other more space, and communicate more efficiently. Don’t allow to think this is your fault -the way that incident at the bar happened is unacceptable. Those things should happen when you have agreed on it, sober, and both are up for it and ready, not just randomly and while drunk.
c) make your life more exciting, so you won’t have to turn yours around what HE does or not. Take space for yourself, insert more mystery as well in it (he shouldn’t find you every day at home when he comes back from work. Is like you are “waiting for him” all the time ).Good luck. My ultimate advice is to find someone who will respect you more and who will not let your sex like dull after only 6 months.
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