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Julie
Hi everyone,
I’ve got a question, even though I already might know the answer.
I’ve met this guy during quarantine and we’ve been talking since mid april.
We have an amazing connection, we talk for hours on the phone and enjoy each other view of life.After talking for a month I asked him, “don’t you want to meet at some point? because talking on the phone is fine but a bit silly now that we can meet up”.
And he said he was waiting for me to be confortable enough with the quarantine to ask me out.I told him it was fine now, so we met at the park, and it was great…we had a good time, and just like our conversations on the phone we didn’t see time fly by…(this was 2 weeks ago).
Last week I told him I was going at the park to enjoy the sun after work and he’d be welcome to meet me there, so he came, and again great talk, we even talked about taking things slow because neither of us want to be in a relationship right away, we want to take it one step at a time and see where it goes, but I did tell him that I needed a proper date to start something with him. I asked him out twice at the park, and he never actually made any effort.He told me he’s confused because he likes me a lot and I’m not like any other girls he usually hangs out with, but dont want any pressure because he’s not ready for a relationship.
I’m game with that, but 1 week as passed and still no sign of him planning a date anytime soon.
Anyway, I’m trying to put less effort in this texting/calling relationship we have because I can tell he might not be interested enough…but he keep talking to me all the time, asking how my day went and how my night went with my friends,…
I’m so confused.
So, he is not interested at all or just scared of possibly starting something?
(we’re in our 30s)I’m ready to let him go even though I really like him
Thanks for your help,
JulieJulieForgot to say, he didn’t say a couple of days ago “I might be free this weekend, we could maybe see each other then” …I said I was working in renovating my house but he should let me know so I could plan out my day, and he answered back “no worries, when you have time” and left it there…
TallspicyHe is not scared, why do women think that? He likes talking to you on the phone. That’s it. If that is enough, then keep talking to him. He will give you nothing more. If it is enough just tell him:
Bob, I appreciate that you still call me. I thought about it and we are not on the same page with what we want right now. Wish you the best!
My guess is he will say: you too! And not do anything more.
Never again tell a man you don’t want a relationship, you basically agreed to let him treat you poorly, and if you want him taking you on dates, you do want more.
NewbieHe literally told you he doesnt want a relationship. Im always surprised women write that down here and not see that means he is not interested in dating you. Well maybe hang out now and then, but if youre looking for a relationship you better stop asking this man out and look further. This ia a waiste of your time
LaneWhat part of “I don’t want a relationship” didn’t you hear? In man code it means: “I don’t want to be in a relationship with you!”
He is not making any plans (dates) because he told you “I don’t want a relationship” and a man instinctively knows that if he starts planning “dates” its the pathway to a relationship. Men aren’t stupid, he knows exactly what he’s doing, enjoying a little attention (getting his ego stroked) just by throwing out a crumb (text) and you lap them up even though he’s clearly told you that he’s not interested in a relationship. Confident women who know what they really want don’t play these silly games with men, such as “I’ll pretend I don’t want a relationship but I’m still going to try and reel you in against your will.” Didn’t work because that fish had no desire to jump on your hook.
Stop lying and being dishonest with men. When you are not able to be authentic with yourself you are going to attract these types of men. If you want a relationship then friggen say it, if you don’t then don’t entertain men, because a woman who doesn’t want a relationship wouldn’t be trying to date, or out there dating—just saying.
JulieHi all,
First of all thank you for your answers, even though some were a little bit harsh to read but that okay haha.I’d like to clear things up :
I didn’t say that I wanted a relationship or not, I said I wanted to take things slow and see where it goes (and that’s what he said as well btw).BUT I KNOW (for my part at least) that I wasn’t lying when I said I wanted to take it slow.
(I can’t speak for him, even though he obviously isn’t investing at alln I’ll agree to that)But for my part, I don’t like to rush into a relationship and being serious from the start, it’s just not me, I like to date and see where it goes…
How is that “not good”? I don’t get it?I’m not closed to the idea of having one, just not ready to rush into one with the first guy I meet when he’s clearly not going to be in the same mindset than me.
Thanks for your answers
NewbieTaking it slow is fine but if a guy say it, its often code for im taking this casual.
In your case its the refusal of him taking you out on a proper date saying he is confused and not ready. So he cant even Take you out on one proper date, poor confused guy that he is. Thats the part that is cristal clear he is not interested or available. Talking a lot before a date really complicates it atm. Women tend to bond over it but guys not so much.T from NYThere are 4 things you must learn about men that are true 90 percent of the time –
1- Men will never risk losing the potential of a girl they like by saying they are not looking for a relationship unless they DEFINITELY don’t want a relationship with THAT girl. It’s a hard no.
2-Or a man will tell you he’s not looking for a relationship or wants to “go slow” because HE is really not in a place in his life to offer that investment no matter what transpired between you or how great he thinks you are. It’s a soft no.
3-Men speak more with their actions than their words (although words are important too) But the fact he is not setting up dates and you are doing all the asking CLEARLY shows he is NOT on the same page and you should let him be if you are looking for something that could eventually turn into something. (And it’s clear by what you wrote you at least want the option)
4-Men not progressing the relationship are men who are not interested in the relationship growing. Period the end no matter what stage you are at with a guy.Find someone who will value all the energy and enthusiasm you are showering on this guy. Or accept his causal, always not committed attention. Those are your only options here.
JulieYou are absolutely right “Newbie”…it’s cristal clear ;) I did get confused by the long talks on the phone and texting.
But I surely know how it feels when a guy wants to see you, you just know, he’s always there to make sure you’ll meet up.And “T from NY”, feel you as well! I do want the option even if it doesn’t turn out to a relationship but if it’s not even an option, I’m not going to invest anymore time and energy.
Thanks again! Case closed :)
TallspicyAm I the only one who generally believes taking it slow is code for I am a mess emotionally or I really don’t want anything more than casual?
I am not talking about rushing into something (a reasonable pace to commit at 2-3 months), but it is very distancing speach. I think I would prefer someone say I am being cautious and making sure I make good decisions, but ultimately I am open to something progressing.
LaneI’m straightforward and blunt, not being harsh, just telling it like I read it.
First, never ever believe you made *a connection* with a guy just because you had some good conversations, or spent a little time together. Men do not connect the way woman do, in fact, they don’t have any of the criteria woman look for in a mate, because they are loaded with testosterone (runs their sex drive), plus their brain is wired differently too as its like a waffle (disconnected compartments) v. woman;s who’s are like a bowl of spaghetti (connected wires), so they don’t think, feel nor draw romantic connections the same way women do.
Within 10 seconds a man can size a lady up, and know where she stands with him. Nature, in her infinite wisdom, gave men this unique ability to swiftly sniff out the one’s they want to be platonic pals with, just have sex with, or get romantic with, and it all starts with “physical attraction.” That’s how a man makes the initial *connection* and if she also has a certain personality or energy about her, only then will he even consider asking her on a date. If he doesn’t its because he didn’t connect to you physically in the way A MAN needs to connect to get romantic with a lady. He could have easily used you for sex only, so at least he respected you enough to not take you down that rabbit hole knowing it was never going to get to the relationship level.
Rarely do men actually “look for” a girlfriend or wife. They tend to fall into relationships by spending time with a woman, and becoming very comfortable with her. Some get into a relationship via an ultimatum (she’s ready to or has walked) and doesn’t want to lose her; OR the guy has an epiphany moment (“I love this woman”); OR he feels why not and see how it goes….etc. Its never planned, it happens spontaneously but he has to want it, of his own free will, for a relationship to happen.
As for the take it slow in dating. That’s the best method to take in dating as only fools rush in. However you have to know when to STOP (end it/walk away) when its clear the man isn’t going slow but not even moving. Like they say “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink” If a man doesn’t want to drink the water (date you) then you let him die of thirst by letting go of the reins, and walking away.
PeggyI agree with Tallspicy. I always thought the” take it slow ” statement was a B.S. code for ” I am a hot and cold mess that will waste your time” or “I am not really into you” or “let us have sex but do not expect anything from me besides that” Anyway,however it is translated,it never means anything good.
LaneYes, I absolutely agree “taking it slow” coming from a MAN is never ever a good sign! However, when it comes to *women* they should take it slow so they don’t fall for Mr. Player; or Mr. I just want sex; or Mr. Rebound, or….you get the gist :o)
JulieThank you Lane!
Your second answer was explained perfectly.
It’s okay to be blunt, sometimes that’s something I need to hear but it doesn’t mean it’s easy to take in :) haha ya know, I’m more on the sensitive side.The waffle / spaghetti image really put everything in perspective.
It’s true, we’re wired differently and sometimes that’s what confuses us.I’m a little sad, but I told him I was tired of this kind of “relation” we had, it wasn’t enough for me to only talk/text and never see each other.
He said he wanted to see me but isn’t always on track to make the move and it wasn’t an excuse, he’s just not used to ask out girls because he usually is just casual and no dating plan..blah blah…and then asked me if I was busy this weekend to meet up.I told him I was busy because I really am but maybe later (knowing that he probably won’t ask me again since I had to bring up the fact that it wasn’t working for me this type of “texting only relationship” for him to ask me out).
I’m guessing I won’t hear from him again (unless he wants to text) :)
JulieBTW : if he keeps texting, what kind of message can I send to make him understand I just don’t want to talk like that anymore without sounding like a b… ?
LaneThe best response is a NON response. Men understand that very well, and although they may ‘pop back in’ in case you forgot to respond to their last text, you can then say “I’m really looking for something different than you, and its best we go our separate ways. I wish you luck in life and love, goodbye.” Keep it short, simple and too the point. If he keeps trying then just block him so you’re not *tempted* to keep texting, or going nowhere. You have the ultimate power, as a woman, to decide what’s best for YOU—good time to start using it :o)
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