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so i am embarrassed to admit this but i have been out of the dating scene for a while now due to a long term relationship but now that it has ended i just started seeing someone new. we saw each other a few times and have had sex a few times. each of those times i would either be a little tipsy or just get caught up in the moment since its been so long and regretfully have had unprotected sex and we havent even discussed exclusivity! i am an adult and i know its super risky for the obvious reasons but now that it has happened a few times i dont know how to bring up the topic and how to get him to use condoms going forward. do i text him? do i say it while we are at dinner? do i stop mid make out session? if so, what do i even say and how do i explain why i seemingly didnt have an issue before but do now. ladies, please please help i dont want to slip up again
MaddieYou don’t really need to explain yourself. It’s okay to change your mind about something and set a firmer boundary. Just tell him you’ve realized you’re uncomfortable not using condoms for now, so you don’t want to have sex without them going forward, and you can revisit in the future (and perhaps decide on other birth control methods together) if you become exclusive and official. If he respects you as a person, he will be okay with this, even if it’s not ideal for him. If he reacts poorly, then you need to drop him anyway.
If you’re not actually on birth control right now, then you should probably just tell him that. That should be a big motivator for him to want to use a condom!
Tell him any of this at a neutral, private time but before you start making out again. In the moment is not a good time! And bring condoms with you in case he’s surprised and not equipped.
I am concerned that he didn’t bring it up either and has just has been right there with you in engaging in risky behavior without really discussing it. You just got out of something long-term and it sounds like you haven’t been risky with other people, so maybe he knows that and thinks it’s not as big a deal. But has he at least been recently tested for STDs?
JoanneYes, bring it up, because this is important. Bring it up before a make-out session, and probably before going out to dinner too. If he doesn’t have condoms, then he needs a chance to go get them. It’s also good to bring it up in advance because if he’s very resistant or refuses (which would be a red flag!), then you’ll have a chance to deal with it before you’re in an awkward situation.
“Bob, I’ve had fun when we’re together, but it’s important for me to be safe when we’re having sex. I’ve been caught-up in the moment and I know we didn’t use condoms before, but I want us both to be better about that. It doesn’t have to be a big deal, just let’s make sure we use condoms next time.”
If there’s slight resistance (like “why did you change your mind? is there something wrong?”), just stay on point: It’s important to you, and you want to be better about it, and you want BOTH of you to make sure you are safe.
JoanneMaddie and I posted at the same time! Maddie brings up an excellent point: You can bring condoms along too, just so you’re very sure that they’re available.
amythank you ladies and it is a little bit of a yellow flag that i was open about NOT being on birth control but that hasnt motivated him to use condoms. we didnt discuss std because the whole topic gives me the heebie jeebies if you know what i mean. it worries me that if he is doing it like this with me, is he doing it like this with someone else that he may or may not be seeing. joanne, i appreciate the script but im just worried about how to bring it up out of the blue. i know some people have sexual conversations/sexting which would be a great time to bring up this topic but we just dont have those conversations. should i text him this the next time we confirm plans and say okay see you soon btw, bla bla bla OR is that an inappropriate texting topic? im struggling to figure out how to bring this up in person in a smooth not awkward way especially since we never verbally discuss anything intimate.
Raven“we didnt discuss std because the whole topic gives me the heebie jeebies if you know what i mean.”
I actually don’t know what you mean…
Your health isn’t important to you?amyraven, of course its important i am just not comfortable with this topic because its not something i typically discuss with any of my previous partners not that i have had very many and this was never an issue before. so its a struggle for me to formulate the right words and appropriately convey what i am trying to say on a topic i am very uncomfortable with if that makes sense
MaddieIt’s a conversation that you should have in person, but if you’re really too uncomfortable, can you do it over the phone? It’s only a few minute conversation, it shouldn’t be a huge deal because it’s an important and normal part of being an adult and prioritizing your own health (and your partner’s).
I’d be really, really careful with this guy if he knows you’re not on birth control but is comfortable repeatedly having sex with you without discussing it. Sounds like he expects any possible outcome to be YOUR problem and doesn’t like taking responsibility… if there was an unintended consequence, I doubt he’d be very helpful in however you wanted to handle it. But you’ll get a better sense of how he deals with this when you talk to him.
And I want to reiterate that it’s totally normal to have these conversations in adult relationships. That doesn’t mean it’s comfortable or fun, but do know it is totally normal and if a guy makes you feel bad or weird for bringing it up, that’s a waving flag about him.
Maddie*(by relationships, I mean any sexual interaction, even if your relationship to the person is FWB or casual or not dating… they don’t deserve your time and energy sleeping with them if they don’t respect your health, comfort, and safety!)
Liz LemonIf you can’t have a discussion about safe sex, you shouldn’t be having sex, frankly. You’re not on birth control, what if you get pregnant? That will be a much more uncomfortable conversation have, don’t you think? I know I sound harsh compared to Maddie’s thoughtful, compassionate responses…listen to Maddie. Talking about this stuff is a normal, necessary part of sexual relationships. Do your best to push yourself to do it; once you do it once, it will be easier to discuss with future partners.
amythanks everyone we are supposed to meet tomorrow so i plan to have the talk then. i am DREADING it but i am 100% aware that it must be done. i was thinking of texting him and telling him i want to talk to him about something in person thats important. this way, if i chicken out he will ask what it is that i wanted to talk about and i wont have a choice but to say it. what do you guys think of this approach?
Liz LemonI wouldn’t do it that way, honestly. Guys hate vague “we need to talk” texts. And you don’t know if he’ll even ask, if you don’t bring it up. You can’t depend on him to ask.
If you are really nervous about doing it in person, and are worried you won’t be able to bring it up, I’d be more direct. I’d tell him you want to talk about safe sex and birth control. Don’t be indirect. But also don’t have the conversation over text– make it clear you want to talk in person. That way when you bring it up you know he’ll be prepared for the conversation.
To be clear, I’m not a huge fan of the text approach. But you seem really anxious and uncomfortable about this, and it’s important that you have the conversation. So if prepping him with a text beforehand makes it easier for you, and you might otherwise chicken out, then I think it’s okay in this case. This is just my opinion, others may disagree.
amyi absolutely agree this needs to be done in person. not only does this talk need to happen but i want to see his face and body language during the conversation just to get a better feel how he feels about everything. at this point i dont care if he hate the vague text message. the reason i specifically want it to be vague is because i am hopeful it will peak his interest and will cause him to bring it up himself as a backup for me. i am secretly hoping he will know what i want to talk about. because if he acts surprised i will be disappointed in him as a grown man not realizing how reckless we have both been acting. nevertheless i just dont want to come of accusatory during this conversation. yes, he dropped the ball but so did i.
Liz Lemon“i am secretly hoping he will know what i want to talk about.”
Men are not mind readers. If you think a man will magically sense what’s on your mind, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. And honestly it’s unfair to expect him to. This is important to remember in general, not just this particular situation.
It feels like game playing to pull the “I’ll be very disappointed in him if he can’t read my mind” card. I don’t think you should approach this in a accusatory or challenging manner. I think being open and honest is the best approach. Yes, you’ve both been reckless but rather than pointing fingers, just address the issue openly. I do totally agree that a face to face conversation is best for the reasons you mentioned, seeing his body language and general demeanor.
Liz LemonKeep in mind, you’ve been having unprotected sex all this time and have never said anything. So he assumes you’re fine with it. He probably has no idea you’re thinking all this. So he may be caught off guard if you bring it up.
amyi did forget to mention the first 2-3 times i asked him to put it on right as we were getting into it and he would do it no issues BUT i had to ask every time. then im not sure what happened but 1 time maybe i got too drunk or what but i didnt ask and he didnt put it on and its been going like this a few more times since. so he really truly shouldnt be surprised. i wish i knew why he stopped despite clearly knowing its what i want since i did mention in 2-3 times.
MaddieHe stopped doing it because he didn’t want to use condoms and he took you not saying anything as tacit approval since it was what he preferred. But you also didn’t communicate and expected him to read your mind. Liz is right that sets up disappointment. Don’t expect him (or anybody) to read your mind, not in person or over text. He’ll have no idea what you want to talk about and if you don’t bring it up, even with a vague text, there’s a good chance he won’t either if he doesn’t really want to know.
If you really want to text him something ahead of time, text him “Reminder to bring a condom for our date tonight!” And then you still bring some as a backup anyway. This gets the most awkward part out of the way and gives you a lot to transition from in person. “Did you bring the condom? Great! Here are my preferences about safe sex.”
A vague text makes this conversation into a much bigger deal than it needs to be, and he may not ask you about it anyway because he may not want to know. Especially if he avoids serious conversation, like you’ve said has been the case so far.
I understand there are communities where people don’t get as educated about sexual health and it’s not discussed so you don’t know it’s normal. I once dated a guy like this. I brought it up, and he told me he’d never even had an STD test before his last girlfriend, who was equally horrified to hear that. They were seriously involved so she sat him down and got his butt into shape about all this stuff. Gave him the women’s perspective, why STD testing is important, the whole deal! She’s coincidentally from the same area as me, and I’m grateful she “trained” him already so I didn’t have to lmao. Except it was a very short relationship for me and didn’t work out for unrelated reasons, but it opened my eyes to someone being from someplace where these topics are not a regular part of life, to everyone’s detriment. That’s why I’m not getting too into tough love about it, sometimes people just don’t know and need to hear the information. But I also agree with Liz that if you can’t mutually discuss these topics, you probably shouldn’t be having sex because you’re not doing it responsibly and that’s so much risk to you. And I completely agree that each time you force yourself to bring it up to a new partner, it gets easier and easier until it’s no longer a big deal.
Good luck, fingers crossed for you!
tammywhat if you catch unwanted stds? or what if you get pregnant? are those risks acceptable to you? ofcourse not. its better to have this talk then go through that! i am not sure why you finding it so hard to talk abt that frankly. cause thats always the first thing in my mind when i feel things are going too far.
GaiaAll the above have given you solid advice. Please take it and use condoms to protect yourself and other future partners. Maybe my generation is different but sex talks are easier because HIV and Aids were a very big deal. Safe sex was the theme.
Your health is important. Be safe. There should never be anything scary about talking about safe sex or your own sexuality with your partner. If it is, they may not be the right partner.
Also, cheers to what Liz said. If you are not able to have a safe sex talk with your partner then you shouldn’t be having sex.
CatThis happened to me. I told him – hey look, until we are exclusive we need to use protection. No big deal.
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