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  • #564434 Reply
    ALEX

    Thank you everyone.

    You are right. I think what some of the earlier people said is right and just need distance so thank goodness he has been on holiday so at least I’ve had time to get my head together without him being around constantly.

    What has been awful is that literally every day about ten people at work are asking me what he is up to on his time off and then acting really confused when I’ve had to say im not sure because we haven’t spoken.

    I just hope Monday it’s not so obvious because I know as soon as we are not super jokey and in each others pockets (i couldn’t really think of a better way to describe it but constantly talking,laughing, being friendly etc) everyone is going to be asking what’s wrong.

    Fingers crossed everyone I guess, thank you for your help and you are right he outright said he didn’t like me and just because he said nice things to me he was obviously talking me in to bed and didn’t actually mean it. I do get that it just really hurts to think I was so naive I guess.

    Thank you x x

    #566892 Reply
    ALEX

    Guys this situation is still so confusing.. some advice would be great.

    I did everything you all said, pretended it didn’t happen and have been really easy breezy about the whole thing. Made sure that every time we’ve been alone I haven’t mentioned it but been super fun and nice to be around. It’s all been fine but towards the end of the week it feels like he is getting angry at me and more and more distant and I don’t know why?

    I have basically gone completely back to normal yet I feel like I am being punished for it? He has made a couple of little digs when I have been joking with other guys in the office – I wouldn’t say jealous (because he has made it clear he does not feel things like that for me) but like why are you being so nice to him type thing and demanding to know what I was joking about with another person. Also while we went back to texting like normal after the initial seeing each other again (I think we were both making sure it wasnt awkward) he has now just started ignoring me so I have of course stopped messaging him. If we are just friends and going back to normal I don’t get why he is being like this?

    The other thing is when we are alone everything feels the same as it was before – constantly joking and laughing and getting on just as well as we did before but then as soon as we are around other people he is acting more distant. We both agreed not to tell anyone what happened so it’s not like he is being weird because people know?

    I just don’t get what is going on… he said he wanted to pretend like nothing happened and be friends because he didn’t see me like that so I gave that to him without making any fuss (after my initial awful embarrassing behaviour which still kills me) even though I was hurt and it took some time to get over but I haven’t given him any reason to be annoyed with me but he is acting it… I really don’t understand what I am supposed to do.

    I am giving him space to work out whatever he needs to but I miss my friend.. it feels worse than an actual breakup!

    #566909 Reply
    Anonymous

    His ego can’t take that you aren’t a pining mess…

    #566920 Reply
    ALEX

    But why would he want me to be a mess? He already said he regretted what happened wouldn’t that make him feel worse?

    I am doing what he wanted and being normal and friends so shouldn’t that make him happy? Not annoyed with me and ignoring me?

    #566921 Reply
    Newbie

    There could be a number of things going on:
    He might feel a bit insecure as well on how to proceed;
    He feels you are watching his moves like a hawk;
    Maybe youre seeing more signals then there are;
    Only one thing you can do: keep doing what youre doing and distance yourself somewhat from him as well. Take care

    #566930 Reply
    Anonymous

    Men have (H U G E) egos…even if he doesn’t want you, he’s ego wants you to want him and his ego doesn’t want you paying attention to others…you acting normal and happy go lucky annoys his ego. I know you want this to be a sign that of something deeper, but you seem terribly naive and I would suggest you start reading up on men and how they think and act and why. Start here, love advice tab.

    #566942 Reply
    C

    Alex,

    I haven’t read all the responses here but trying to piece this together and it makes no sense. He broke up with a girl he was going to ask to marry him in March but he hasn’t had sex in 14 months? I’m not buying that. The reason you’ve become best friends in the last 6 months is because he was going through a breakup and healing and he wanted someone to talk to. You wanted more with him than friendship so you jumped at the chance to spend this time with him and become “best friends” as you say.

    You jumped into bed with him the first chance you got and now he’s told you he’s not interested in you like that, wants to act like this didn’t happen, etc. That is exactly what he’s doing, acting like this didn’t happen. But he’s also distancing himself from you, not texting as much, ignoring your texts because of the way you acted. He now knows you have feelings for him, he didn’t mean to hurt you, so things will never go back to normal like this didn’t happen. And no him messing with you for talking to other guys doesn’t mean all the things he told you about not being interested in you as more than friends aren’t true. You are trying to focus on one thing he has done so you can ignore all the other hurtful things he said to you. That’s not going to work. It will just leave you in denial and make this harder.

    Guys this situation is still so confusing.. some advice would be great.

    I did everything you all said, pretended it didn’t happen and have been really easy breezy about the whole thing. Made sure that every time we’ve been alone I haven’t mentioned it but been super fun and nice to be around. It’s all been fine but towards the end of the week it feels like he is getting angry at me and more and more distant and I don’t know why?

    I have basically gone completely back to normal yet I feel like I am being punished for it? He has made a couple of little digs when I have been joking with other guys in the office – I wouldn’t say jealous (because he has made it clear he does not feel things like that for me) but like why are you being so nice to him type thing and demanding to know what I was joking about with another person. Also while we went back to texting like normal after the initial seeing each other again (I think we were both making sure it wasnt awkward) he has now just started ignoring me so I have of course stopped messaging him. If we are just friends and going back to normal I don’t get why he is being like this?

    The other thing is when we are alone everything feels the same as it was before – constantly joking and laughing and getting on just as well as we did before but then as soon as we are around other people he is acting more distant. We both agreed not to tell anyone what happened so it’s not like he is being weird because people know?

    I just don’t get what is going on… he said he wanted to pretend like nothing happened and be friends because he didn’t see me like that so I gave that to him without making any fuss (after my initial awful embarrassing behaviour which still kills me) even though I was hurt and it took some time to get over but I haven’t given him any reason to be annoyed with me but he is acting it… I really don’t understand what I am supposed to do.

    I am giving him space to work out whatever he needs to but I miss my friend.. it feels worse than an actual breakup!

    #566947 Reply
    alia

    It’s a power thing. And power is an ego thing. They are almost direct opposites of love and caring for others. He is experiencing some of the power shift and he doesn’t like it, he doesn’t know how to act. He still has lost so called respect for you so he can’t compute that you are back to normal.
    Still none of this means he wants to be with you it get back together with you. He wants you, where he wants you and you’re not complying, so he will text you less, because he is not feeling like texting, because you are not there for him with puppy eyes.
    I hope you are dating and meeting other guys because this guy is not it and you shouldn’t stick around thinking he will come around. You could lose years to this so called relationship. Have you red the book No Cobtact Rule by Natalie Lue? I recommend you read: listen to audio, it will help immensely.

    #566948 Reply
    ALEX

    Yeah you are absolutely right I did all of those things and it won’t go back to normal I just really wanted it to be like it never happened and wanted someone to reassure me it could. I messed up so I have to live with the consequences I guess.

    I never thought I could be so stupid. Looking at every thing in hindsight now I literally have just been an idiot every step of the way but the whole time I didn’t think I was doing anything wrong. It’s crazy because I am not usually that naive or stupid but I have just been ridiculous.

    Thanks everyone I guess I have nothing to do but try and put it behind me. I really appreciate everyone’s comments.

    #566950 Reply
    ALEX

    Thanks alia. I hope it’s not that because it seems pretty cruel of a person to just want power over the other but I will def read the book! Thanks for your advice!

    #566955 Reply
    Raven

    It is worse than a breakup…

    Your friendship is now tainted, for lack of a better term…
    Take some space for yourself… Give him some space… Serious space… Like 2/3 weeks space.

    Reground yourself.

    If he reaches out respond, but You– don’t reach out to him… Do some reading, take a run… Get busy with you…

    #566963 Reply
    Jenny OG

    I skimmed through the first page. Yeah, he likely was in a moment and y’all being two grown adults, got a little carried away and had sex. I think you’re stressing the “friendship” aspect as a defense mechanism. In this day in age the term “friend” is used so loosely bc in all honesty, a legit friend gives a sh*t about you so would NOT cross that line without careful, meticulous consideration. I always say if you wouldn’t invite them to your wedding, they’re not a “friend”. Y’all were two acquaintances who had sex. You liked him more than he liked you, he’s trying to spare your feelings by pretending he cares more than he prob does bc he’s likely not as sensitive or emotionally affected by this mishap and he’s prob easily able to go about acting as if it never happened bc it was meaningless to him on that level. I personally could & would go about it in that exact same way but I know that’s easier said than done for most. Attempt to detach and maintain the “friendship”. I doubt he intended to “hurt” you or mislead you but in looking out for his own interests, yours became moot… It’s human nature. Good luck

    #566965 Reply
    Jenny OG

    And don’t beat yourself up. You liked a guy, you read his signals, you jumped hoping you’d get what you wanted, shot missed and now you’re forced to face the cold, harsh truth of the situation. At least now you know what it is… Carl Jung says “Mistakes are, after all, the foundations of truth, and if a man does not know what a thing is, it is at least an increase in knowledge if he knows what it is not.” Move along, lesson learned :)

    #566967 Reply
    Jenny OG

    The only thing he prob “feels” for you is bad that you are taking this for more than what it is to him. I’m sure he feels bad that he doesn’t feel the same way but none of these said feelings are genuine concern for you on the depth level that a TRUE friend would feel. Once you accept that, the situation becomes less intense and more easily understood. You’re exaggerating emotions and strength of connection that’s kind of one sided IMO. And that’s what’s causing most of your distress. It’s not your fault per set, but idealism should be controlled. Just my opinion on the matter. Hope all turns out well

    #566969 Reply
    ALEX

    Thanks jenny so what you are saying is he doesn’t even value me as a friend? Therefore should just forget trying to be friends at all and move on?

    That’s sad because I would definitely have invited him to my wedding (the test you said above) and we were always making plans about cool things we would do (as friends) in the future. Maybe I really have misinterpreted everything.

    It certainly makes me view him differently if that is the case. Thank you for your advice I will take it on board and just try to detach completely and forget about him in any way other than someone I work with. I am sure in a few years I won’t even remember this happened hopefully. Thank you again.

    #566992 Reply
    Jessica

    I think it’d work better for you if you stop thinking about why does he do this or that and start thinking what’s best for you… IMO, what’s best for you is to be proactive, to chose what you care for, to focus on things that can improve your life. I do not think a guy who f*cks you and then tells you he didn’t mean to is one of them. Unplug from him, stop trying to decode his words, his actions,. give him the place he deserves in your life, if any. Everything else will resolve on its own.

    #567032 Reply
    Jenny OG

    I mean, I’m just saying that MY friends don’t really f*ck me over nor would they casually sleep with me knowing I have feelings for them *if that were ever the case. I in fact have a best friend I went to HS with and he’s been “in love” with me for what, over 15 yrs now *which he’s vocalized when drunk* and it’s sincerely BECAUSE I respect him and genuinely value his friendship to that degree that I’d never cross that line. I’ve def thought about it a few different occasions *especially when alcohol is involved* but NO, he means to much to me to “do” him like that. A fleeing moment of loneliness and/or an ego boost, attention craving, whatever just isn’t worth losing him or straining our relationship

    #567033 Reply
    Jenny OG

    So to answer your question, to be frank, no, I don’t believe he’s really a “friend” and if so, his translation of friendship def wouldn’t be in alignment with mine personally. But everyone is different. I’m not really into superficialities so although I have an endless amount of acquaintances, those I consider to be true friends is a select few. Acquaintances are fun, we often do friend like things, but the emotional reliability isn’t there they way it is w a friend.

    #567039 Reply
    Sun

    Alex,

    I read the whole thread. There is only one thing to do here and it’s not confusing at all. Move on and stop trying to analyze his actions, words, and actions. If he is not dating you properly towards a relationship after all that happened, it’s not going to happen. You need to get past this and focus on your life. Men come and go. Any more seconds/minutes you spend thinking about the whys of his actions/words, etc… is a huge waste of time. Don’t sell yourself short. You deserve a man who wants to be with you all the way.

    #567054 Reply
    Maria

    I was trying to help you win him. Nothing is ever set in stone, people develop feelings. Have you never felt for someone you didn’t like at first?

    I think he is irritated and annoyed because 1) you are not chasing him and totally cool about everything, and 2) he is teased by you, constantly reminded about sex.

    It won’t hurt to move on in your head, because the behaviour that you’d exhibit would be exactly the one to further irritate him and poke his ego, and this too would work in your favour.

    But stop thinking that everything is either ON or OFF, people are complex creatures, he doesn’t want anything you with, logically in his mind, but he is tempted nonetheless. I agree, however, that “tempted” is not enough. He need to “want” to be with you.

    So “move on” in your head, really look at him as your friend and nothing else, but I think this is not the end. I think there will be Part 2. Not sure when, it might be a few weeks.
    Please post an update and let us know how things develop, I am sure everyone would want to find out.

    #570945 Reply
    ALEX

    OK so an update to how it’s been going.. and hopefully some reassurance I am doing the right thing still?

    I read up on No contact, the rules and started doing that as everyone rightly pointed out I am super naive about men and been almost too much an open book etc . Obviously I see him at work every day so I haven’t ignored him but have not initiated any conversations outside of work related matters, the first week I noticed the difference and he kept coming over to me at my desk trying to make conversation to which I responded nicely but brief etc i havent asked questions about his personal life or what hes been up to as its not my business etc

    I have been my usual happy self with everyone else in the office and without sounding conceited I have made sure I look my absolute best i can every day! Not for him but for me so I feel more in control and confident. He has even commented on what I have been wearing every day and how amazing my dresses, or boots are things like thay to which I’ve just responded with a smile and a thank you nothing much.

    It’s made me feel in more control of things but now I’m unsure if I am potentially making things more awkward for us? The reason I say this is we have always been lunch buddies who go off and do things every day and we did a couple of times since but I basically felt like he was avoiding me so I just kept my dignity and have been going off on my own or with others since.

    I kind of saw this as giving him the space he needed and proving I have too much self respect to run around after him but 3 different people in the office have since told me that when they asked him while we weren’t spending time together (apparently it’s been noticed by everyone but I have not said anything about it. If directly asked I am just going to say sometimes people drift apart or something non descript) he says he doesn’t know why but I keep going off on my own without him! He surely doesn’t think like this does he? He is just being a jerk and try to make himself seem like it’s not his issue right? I sort of saw it as he knows where I am if he wants to spend time with me as a friend but now I’m a little worried maybe I have been too distant and non contactey that maybe I have caused unnecessary friction? Should I stop what I’m doing?

    It’s definitely unsettled him as he has started being super nervous around me knocking coffee over yesterday when I made polite small talk in the kitchen, I keep catching him looking at me and it’s super weird because he looks away not smiling as soon as I notice and make eye contact, watching me with other people and trying to butt in to conversations, he keeps making reference to little jokes we had in the past which I was taking as a sign our friendship could potentially get back on track eventually if not exactly as it was before although a silly thing he never likes any of my instagram posts anymore but he def sees them! I went out for a day with a friend last weekend and posted some pics and he was like who did you go there with when etc i was just brief and said a friend and that it was a lovely time but he didn’t like any of them and he always likes everything!

    I also kind of think he might be being mean as well which is kind of the opposite of the above, he has instantly started hanging out with a girl who he always used to say he can’t stand to me and who was never very friendly to me which he used to get annoyed with. I almost feel like he’s doing it to get a reaction? I haven’t given one obviously and I’m not being jealous there are girls he is genuinely friends with and he’s been the same with them as before but this one girl I feel like he is hanging out with on purpose? Do boys do that?

    I don’t know it’s definitely made me see him differently and the person who said I’d be over it in a month I think was right as I am definitely almost there (i still have days that are horrible because I miss the friendship but the sex thing I am completely over)

    I just don’t know if I am doing the right thing at the moment?

    #570955 Reply
    Harley

    I think you’re doing the best you can in the circumstances.

    he’s certainly thinking….but he’s not coming out and saying anything.

    If he wants you…friendship. or otherwise. He shall let you know. He…needs to talk.

    you are in a win/win at the moment.

    you are getting over him…looking and feeling great, and learning how not to accept bad treatment.

    yes..It is awful hurtful to lose a good friendship…but if friends really want you….they shall come back.

    #570981 Reply
    ALEX

    Thanks Harley. It is nice to hear that I am finally doing the right thing in the situation. It sucks but I will continue to just give him space and leave everything to him.

    Obviously a small part of me still wants that a future point he will turn around and realise he made a mistake but I get that’s not likely… so will carry on as I am! Thank you. X

    #571029 Reply
    Harley

    Half the time honey….they DO cop on but by then it’s too late…We are over them.

    Then. ..they also come back for an ego boost…to see if they can sex you back into bed again. ..then dump you again. or if they are bored.

    The odd one gives you an apology and you end up good friends.

    The one that wants you back….very very rare…apologises. ..takes things slow. shows you how he has changed through words and actions.

    it’s usually the 1st or 2nd one.

    Sorry honey. hugs. xoxoxo

    #571038 Reply
    Annie

    He’s not interested in you and never was. He slept with you and spends time with you because he likes you somewhat, but not enough to ask you on a date, which means there is no future for a relationship here. Men don’t “use” women for sex. Unless you were raped, you willingly slept with him. Don’t use sex to manipulate men into a relationship. It doesn’t work, and it’s not fair to accuse them of using you. You didn’t do anything to make this guy not like you. He was never interested in the first place.

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