We started too fast and slowed down, but now I’m just confused


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    Rose

    Context: I’m a 31 year old woman recently out of a 7 year relationship that I ended. It was messy and painful but needed to happen.

    I didn’t intend on meeting someone so soon after, but I took a peek on OkCupid just to remind myself that other people existed, and I met someone. We had wonderful chemistry right away and I got off the app because I was already feeling overwhelmed. Suddenly we’re texting a lot and next thing I know we’re going on dates, sleeping over, and planning stuff. He seemed just as into me as I was into him, and we both over-invested up front, but I was happy to just see where things went. Suddenly he started feeling a bit swept away and began pulling back. Fresh from a breakup himself, he said he wasn’t ready for a relationship. He didn’t want to end it, but didn’t want to call it exclusive or sleep together yet. He’s been up front that he’s never been in love but forms attachments slowly and would like to try.

    I took some space because it left me feeling completely confused, insecure, and embarrassed. I wasn’t necessarily asking for anything from him, but the way it started was undercut by doubt and hyper vigilance on my part. So we didn’t talk for 5 days and I let him reach out. He said he wanted to see me again, and we’ve hung out twice in person this week for really lovely dates. Swimming in a river, dinner, acroyoga (which is a really intimate activity), and we’ve also gamed together. But whereas we were physically close before, it’s dialled all the way back to just hugs. I don’t text him during the day and have given him lots of space. He continues to initiate, but I am struggling not to feel confused and anxious.

    I feel like going slow makes sense when we’re both healing. I’m trying to trust that he still likes me and is attracted to me, and to be honest I don’t feel like dating anyone else right now. My plan is just to try to go with the flow, knowing that either one of us might back out at any point. I’m not used to going slow or having no labels, so this has been hard. Guess I’m just looking for some outside reflection because I’ve never technically dated before. What should going slow look like? How do you handle your anxiety when a partner is a little avoidant attached?

    #942377 Reply
    Raven

    Let’s call this what it is: A Rebound…

    #942378 Reply
    Rose

    It is technically a rebound, but I don’t think rebounds are 100% destined to fail. I want to give this a fair chance and I do have genuine feelings for him. My brother started dating his now fiancé only two weeks after a breakup and they made it work.

    #942379 Reply
    Maddie

    There’s a difference between someone rebounding but really wanting to get through the recent breakup and generally being ready for a relationship with the right person (presumably your brother in your example), and someone who is both on the rebound and clearly has additional commitment / avoidance issues. Avoidant attachment isn’t easy to work through or overcome at all, even with the right partner. It is more of a life stage issue and if the person in earnest wants to confront and overcome their past trauma in order to improve their own lives. Not everyone is ready or willing to do that as it is hard.

    My personal experience with flip flopping men who burn hot then pull back because they aren’t ready for labels is that they will ultimately waste your time while enjoying your company and welcoming the feel-good distraction. If you’re not comfortable with playing the cool girl but you’re trying to rationalize it to keep him around since you’re also getting over a breakup, you’re kind of just kicking the can down the road. Don’t settle for less than what you want. People want to be the exception to the rule, but those exceptions generally come when someone is in the mindset to be ready for change and a relationship prior to meeting the right person rather than meeting someone who changes the guy’s mind — so the timing is already right for the individual. I’ve never met a flip flopper who gets there for the person they’ve already flip flopped on. Maybe for the next person, but not for the person they’re still not ready for. So tread carefully and don’t over-invest if this is all he’s giving you.

    #942380 Reply
    Maddie

    Just adding: a rebound by itself is temporary emotional unavailability that can change with a little bit of time if the person was serious about relationships and in the right life stage to begin with. But insecure attachment is indefinite emotional unavailability unless the person is serious about doing a LOT of work for themselves. I think that’s a good summary of the difference.

    #942381 Reply
    Ewa

    He is never going to commit to you no matter how long you’re going to wait . He knows what he is doing and he is going to stop talking to you as soon as he ready to commit to someone.
    The guy I work with he met a lovely girl but even though he was happy with her he said to me he’s not seeing her as a gf and never will. They now stopped seeing each other and even though he said he misses her, he has no regrets about not commiting to her.

    #942382 Reply
    AngieBaby

    It sounds to me like you’ve been friend zoned. Sounds more like hang-outs than dates.

    I also think that no matter what we say, you are not going to walk away from this guy, despite the fact that this situation is causing you a lot of uncomfortable feelings. You seem determined to let this play out and you’re going to be the cool girl as Maddie said no matter how much pain it’s causing you because you’ve got in your head that this situation worked out for your brother so it can work for you too. So you will continue to audition for the part of official girl friend with high hopes, but it’s not likely you will get the part, you just can’t see it yet. You want more from him than he wants from you and that’s not a great place to be so early in a relationship. And this isn’t a relationship, it’s only a situation-ship.

    Guys don’t typically stay with a woman they went through difficult times or “healing” with unless rough times hit when they had already been her for a long time. They heal and move on to the next woman who doesn’t remind them of a time when they were less than their best. Your loyalty and patient caring aren’t going to be rewarded. Those things make a man actually disrespect you in the end.

    It’s likely he’s just going to continue enjoying your company until he meets someone else or feels you’re getting too close or want more than he can give. Is it possible this will work? Yes, but you’re taking huge risks and the odds frankly aren’t in your favor. Saying yes to him is saying no to yourself. You’re overriding all your good instincts that are telling you this isn’t a good idea. But – this is a learning experience you apparently need, so all I can do is wish you good luck.

    #942383 Reply
    Rose

    Thanks for your replies folks, and your honesty. I do agree that I’ve been too attached to a certain outcome and I’m planning on clarifying with him again on what we’re doing. If he wants to give it a real shot I’ll go at the pace he’s comfortable with, but if he wants to see other people I’m pulling the plug because I already said I’d be uncomfortable with that. Yeah I like him a lot, but I’m not willing to be an option while he shops around.

    #942384 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    How long ago did your relationship end?

    And how long have you been seeing this guy, and how often (how many times a week)? It would be helpful to know the timeline here.

    I’m asking because of it’s only been a few weeks/a couple months since you met, it’s way too soon to define the relationship anyway. Even if both folks are healthy and in a good place to date (which it frankly sounds like you both aren’t), it generally takes 3-4 months of dating for a guy to decide of he wants to pursue something serious with a woman. Up until then it’s just getting to know the person and enjoying their company.

    There are some good points that have already been made about rebounds, etc. I just wanted to point this aspect out because if you’ve only been dating this guy a few weeks, you’re getting ahead of yourself, which is another aspect of anxious attachment.

    #942385 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    Oh and I’m not trying to imply that this guy (or you) will magically be healed and ready for something serious after 3-4 months of dating. Just that healthy relationships take time and gradually build in intensity at a healthy pace– over-investing early on doesn’t lead to good outcomes, generally speaking.

    #942386 Reply
    AngieBaby

    Rose, I’m really glad you’ve heard what we’ve said and are going to clarify what’s going on. Protect yourself so you aren’t pointlessly hurt again. It’s one thing to take a worthwhile risk for love, but I’m not sure this guy is a worthy risk. Men will just enjoy your company as long as you allow it, even though they have no intention of taking things any further.

    #942387 Reply
    Rose

    To answer some questions, we were both a bit over two weeks out of breakups when we met. We’ve gone out 7 times over the course of a month. I know, the timeline is sort of awful. It feels pretty doomed. It would be cool to give it an honest try down the road, but the more I think about it the more I feel like it was the wrong time. Just hurts to admit that when you see actually potential…but I don’t feel like I can cool girl my way through this if he wants to keep dating.

    #942388 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    Oh wow…. You started seeing this guy two weeks out of a breakup of a relationship of 7 years? A “messy and painful” breakup by your own description?

    Surely you see this is a really bad idea. Are you sure you’re not rebounding really hard? It sounds like this guy is actually being the sensible one here by putting on the brakes before you both get in too deep.

    It’s tough! Breakups suck, and it’s hard when you meet someone who seems great but it’s just the wrong time.

    #942389 Reply
    AngieBaby

    Stay. Off. The. Dating. Sites. Until you have given yourself enough grieving the loss and healing time. Don’t be like the guys who get on the apps just to get over someone by getting another one under them ASAP.

    #942390 Reply
    Rose

    I know, believe me I feel stupid for putting myself in this situation. It would be easier if I didn’t like him so much. I immediately got off the app when I realized it was a bad idea, but damage done I guess. It’s fine that he put on the brakes, I agree it was the right thing to do! The hard part is that I have feelings now. We’re going to have a call and I wouldn’t be surprised if it just ended.

    #942391 Reply
    Rose

    Well that’s that. I decided to just clean break. Thanks for helping me see the light guys. Feels like a punch in the gut but that’s life I guess.

    #942392 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    Sorry you’re going through this. Unfortunately the only way to work through a breakup (I’m referring to your 7 year relationship, not this guy) is by giving yourself time and processing your emotions…not by distracting yourself with a new person. This guy was a distraction. I’m sure he’s lovely and you two had chemistry, but you’re not in a position to start dating now.

    Now is the time to embrace your friends, family, hobbies, exercise, travel, volunteering… anything to keep you busy and distract yourself while your heart and mind process the end of your relationship.

    You caught feelings, sure, but you only knew this guy for a month. I’m willing to bet some of what you’re feeling is residue from your past relationship. It’s hard to go from being coupled to being single. So much of your identity gets wrapped up with your partner…you share the intimacy, the inside jokes, you have your own little language. It’s hard to lose that. But jumping into someone else’s arms immediately after ending a long term relationship only delays your healing. Give yourself some time so that the next time you meet a guy you click with, who is hopefully also emotionally healthy, you will be in a position to pursue things and see where they go.

    #942393 Reply
    Rose

    Thanks Liz, you’re absolutely right. I feel like I started the process of reinvesting in my life. I don’t pine for my ex at all because he hurt me so badly for so long, but that creates a whole host of problems to heal of course. I guess I’m sure I could love again, but I want to get it right. This was a reminder that I can and will meet other people, but wake up call that I need to actually take time.

    #942394 Reply
    Mary

    Being avoidant attachment myself, I believe a guy has to see value in it. You are definitely having beautiful experiences so if I were you, and really want things to work, I would ebd things and tell him that you feel and believe based in things he has said thar the timing is just not good and that you know what you want for yourself. A guy has to feel freedom to love you (I am also that mindset).

    #942395 Reply
    Mary

    *He has to see value in you.

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