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Eric CharlesKeymaster
There’s one ultimate distinction about what triggers a man’s love and desire to commit. I want to talk about that here.
Your time with him is not about making him feel a certain way about you.
Your time with him is about helping him feel a better way about what’s most meaningful in his life.
When you do that, you trigger his feelings of falling in love with you, every time you’re able to do that.
If that’s the center of your mentality towards men and relationships, everything changes.
You look at men differently. You look at dating differently. You look at love differently.
Now when you meet a new man, you’re interested in conversations about what’s most meaningful to him. You’re interested in deeply understanding him, how he really feels, what he really cares about.
Men want you to understand these things about them. In fact, they don’t really consider any kind of relationship potential unless there’s potential for this understanding.
As you listen and learn more, if he has relationship potential, he’ll gradually reveal more. At some point, you’ll start to really see where his edge is that he struggles to go beyond and push through.
He’s not looking for you to solve his problems, but he tremendously values a woman that can help him find his strength, confidence and inspiration when he’s down. Those are the big moments of when a man falls in love with a woman.
Again, though, most women miss all of this because they’re never on the right track in the first place.
It’s not about making him feel a certain way about you. It’s about making him feel better about what’s important to him in his life. Then you get all the love you can imagine (and far beyond it).
If you think about it, this is intelligent design from nature.
Why shouldn’t a man want this if he’s going to exclusively couple with a woman?
It creates a strong bond because each person gives to the other in a way they cannot give to themselves.
Not in a co-dependent way, but in a way that lovingly plays to each partner’s strengths.
- This topic was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Eric Charles.
KashGreat post. Also, after knowing someone even deeply you might not like them, or they might not like but that’s not personal or even rejection. It’s just that you aren’t a match.
StaceyReally appreciate you posting these, great post – thank you.
Eric CharlesKeymaster“Great post. Also, after knowing someone even deeply you might not like them, or they might not like but that’s not personal or even rejection. It’s just that you aren’t a match.”
Thank you! And yes.
Today’s culture has shoved all of this out of the spotlight and it’s to the detriment of women.
Because having sex almost immediately is increasingly the norm, it’s easy enough for a guy to put on his best show for long enough to get sex. After that, he has biology on his side to do the rest of the work for him.
And since sex is discounted in its psychological effects, women don’t realize the inevitable destination of “catching feelings”, especially if the sex is good.
None of that builds a relationship or even checks for the most basic aspects of compatibility.
Now, see… I always point out that I’m not here to moralize. If a sex-based, sex-targeted dynamic is what a woman is looking for, then I have no issue with that. Go for it.
And if a woman’s aim is to have a relationship that lasts for the rest of her life, then that’s a perfectly appropriate aim too.
Where I have an issue is when a woman starts on one track (or just “goes with the flow”, unaware of where the flow leads) and then wants to turn her thing into a relationship at the 11th hour, when he has one foot out the door.
It’s tragic and sad, but this is when women come to A New Mode… there’s nothing we can do about that.
We can talk about what could be done at that point to stop him from leaving and turn things around. It will work if there was ever a shred of possibility that it could. Moreover, she’ll need to play a tight game, sticking to what works and not falling back into old mindsets.
I’m posting here with you all because I want to develop this further. Sex is great, we all love sex, but I think the world has only become more ignorant of what creates love and commitment since Sabrina and I started the site in 2009.
The relationship advice out there focuses primarily around “11th hour type problems” where the relationship skipped past all the relationship building parts.
The guy isn’t invested and he could take it or leave it. She’s slipped more and more deeply into chasing him, not realizing that what got her into bed wasn’t him but his charming persona, and once it did its job she’ll fall deeper into love while he was never invested in the first place.
There’s no leverage there. It’s as if a dating culture was formed that entirely strips out the elements that would create an emotional bond.
“Really appreciate you posting these, great post – thank you.”
You’re welcome. Thank you for kind words, Kash.
KathyEric, Thank you for coming onboard and giving great male insight and advice!
RileyI felt that this advice has the woman doing all the relationship work to make him happy. What does she get back from him? What is he doing to support and build up HER dreams? I could easily see her guy soaking up all the confidence building and understanding she’s giving him and then ultimately walking away from her as not good enough for his newly confident, understood self. After all, she’s acting like a doormat if she’s happy with giving so much on her part and not expecting any giving back on his. Maybe you didn’t intend it but it came across to me as extremely one-sided.
KashRiley- most of the relationship advice here is targetted for women because it is us who want to be in relationships more than men maybe. Probably their prime audience is women, so they target their advice accordingly.
You aren’t wrong there. So I would say when you give all this to the right guy, he is obviously trying to do the same things for you as well. If you don’t see your needs and wants being met in the relationship, then you already know it’s not for you and you can back off.
Eric CharlesKeymaster“I felt that this advice has the woman doing all the relationship work to make him happy.”
She’s doing work no matter what.
Worrying is work. Disappointment is work. Heartbreak is work. Watching the slow moving trainwreck of him losing interest until he leaves is work.
Or… you could do things that effectively build the relationship…
So he comes towards you, wants more of you, opens himself to you, appreciates you and looks at you with the fires of love burning bright in his eyes.
So really, this isn’t about who’s doing “work”. This is about effectiveness.
Do you want to be effective or not?
“What does she get back from him?”
Love.
“What is he doing to support and build up HER dreams?”
Men and women are different. Believing that relationships should be a perfect mirror of actions is wrongheaded. It’s how women get themselves into the messes that bring them to this site in the first place.
They think, “I GAVE HIM all this love and he didn’t GIVE ME it back!!! He’s supposed to give me back what I gave him! Even if he didn’t ask for it, he still owes me it!”
Relationships are about complementing each other’s nature.
You push his “love buttons”, he’ll push yours. Frankly, he already did or you wouldn’t be there, you wouldn’t care in the first place.
So his reciprocation will be his best attempt to make you feel the kind of love for him that he feels for you. This may or may not come in the form of “supporting and building her dreams”.
If it’s clear to him that doing that is what will make her feel the most love for him, then that’s what he’ll do.
Not out of some obligation to mirror what he received, but to serve her love in the relationship.
Let’s say men love chocolate and women love… cheesecake, I dunno.
She gives him chocolate. He gives her cheesecake.
Why? Because that’s what she loves!
Your argument is essentially, “I give him chocolate, he needs to give me chocolate back or no chocolate for him!”
Again, this is about pushing each others “love buttons”.
In a relationship, you are serving LOVE. Your triggers, desires, tastes, needs, etc. are different. If the goal is to serve love, then each partner will be doing their best to serve what triggers love in the relationship for the partner.
Men and women are different, wouldn’t it make sense that what each person brings would be different?
If it wasn’t different, why would they even want or need the other person? There’s no complementarity there.
This whole “what about me?!” is the stuff petty grievances are made of. How will fuel like that lead to creating an excellent relationship?
Again, this is about what effectively pushes a man’s love buttons. Ignore it at your own peril. But more importantly, why deny yourself what works?
“I could easily see her guy soaking up all the confidence building and understanding she’s giving him and then ultimately walking away from her as not good enough for his newly confident, understood self.”
Interesting visualization.
Let me ask you this… when was your life complete?
You’d say, “It’s not complete… I’m still living it.”
I’d say, “Has it changed?”
“Of course, life is always changing, evolving…”
I’d say, “And yet… you expect that a man should promise forever commitment?”
We create our relationships every day.
We invest in them. The investments are those moments of love. Those stack up credit in a man’s “bank” for you, and men will cut you slack. Build enough love with a man and you’ll fill a role in his life that nobody else can touch. You’ll be like a part of him, a part of his process, a part of his mind, interwoven with his soul.
But that happens in the active process of life. Are you with him, walking the journey together? Are you in there, with his life, with his soul, with his journey?
Or are you standing back, as if outside of it, trying to use tactics to “make him love you” and keep score to make sure you are getting as much as you’re giving.
“After all, she’s acting like a doormat if she’s happy with giving so much on her part and not expecting any giving back on his.”
Where did I say any of that? Again, this is about effectiveness.
Tell me your more effective approach to trigger his love, inspiration and devotion.
“Maybe you didn’t intend it but it came across to me as extremely one-sided.”
It’s absolutely one-sided.
Here are the two sides: Stuff that’s effective and stuff that isn’t.
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Stuff you have control over and stuff you don’t.
You know what you control? Your actions.
And it’s not much fun when your actions don’t create the kind of results you want. It’s not fun to feel powerless, confused or frustrated.
I’m giving a clear roadmap to trigger his love.
If you know how to trigger his love, that puts you in the position of power, choice and control.
Because if you can trigger his love and he doesn’t measure up to what you want in a partner, you can choose to leave knowing that you can create love with a man who’s a better fit.
When you know you have power, choice and control over your love life, you won’t be afraid to walk away from a relationship that isn’t working.
And if you’re not afraid to walk away, then you won’t put up with a dynamic that doesn’t work for you.
You will be able to have standards because there’s something backing them. Your standards aren’t bluffs or empty threats.
You can be loving, gracious and forgiving in the relationship. You can cut your partner slack. You can warmly and lovingly tell them what you need from them or how something they did doesn’t work for you.
But the most essential element is underneath all of that, which is that you have standards and if he absolutely, willfully will not honor your standards after giving him a clear roadmap of what they are and what you need, then you will leave.
You are not a victim. You are not a prisoner to him. You are not powerless.
You have control over your own action. You have the power to choose.
Choosing wisely is on you.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Eric Charles.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Eric Charles.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Eric Charles.
MWow. We need like buttons on this forum. I’d give your last post a thousand likes of we did Eric!
Actually this whole thread and the wisdom and guidance you share is awesome. I wish I’d have read this 20 years ago.
Better late than never, I guess.
Thank you for the passion with which you write. Your words are so helpful …. You totally cover all arguments. And I can totally relate it to a relationship I’m trying to extract myself from currently. So helpful. Thank Eric. I don’t know if you realise this, but you and Sabrina literally save lives. Thank you 🙏🙏❤️❤️💛💛💖💖
Eric CharlesKeymasterThank you M. I appreciate your words, and I appreciate you.
I appreciate Riley too. I’m grateful she wrote what she wrote because that is something I hear sometimes from the audience.
These are valid points to raise and having the opportunity to address them is helpful for everyone.
Men and women have all had painful experiences in their love life, and for things to be better there needs to be a better overall approach and mindset.
The main tennets of the mindset we present here is:
– you only have control over your own actions
– just because you feel something doesn’t mean he does
– the things that make him fall deeply in love with you will be different than what makes you fall deeply in love with him
– therefore your power is in your understanding and ability of what triggers a man into wanting love and commitment
– when you have that power, you can choose. You know what it looks like when you have something that will work out and you know what it looks like when it can’t.
– therefore you can let yourself off the hook too! You don’t need to take it as a personal failure on your part. There’s just dynamics that can work and dynamics that can’t.One thing I’ve often said to women about finding a great match is:
Think of how many people are your BEST friends.
You’ve met thousands upon thousands of people in your life.
And yet, maybe you have one best friend? Maybe 2 or 3 max?
So did those thousands of people “fail” to be your best friend? Were they “bad”?
No, they just weren’t the “best friend match” for you.
You didn’t need to go to 5 years of therapy to work that out. It was obvious on the surface.
Not just for the people who didn’t become your best friends, but also for the few people that did!
Why? Because you have realistic expectations for them! You don’t expect them to make your dreams come true or save you or complete you.
You expect them to be them!
You even expect that sometimes you’ll be imperfect or they’ll be imperfect and… it will be OK. Because you can see the big picture with them and with you, you know that your “best friendship” is bigger than any one interaction of the moment.
Now am I saying that relationships are “best friendships”?
No. What I’m saying is that we don’t build “best friendships” up as a concept in our culture, so it’s not poisoned with a bunch of expectations, depictions, fantasies, etc.
The “best friendship” just… is.
Now… if you go in with wanting to get something out of the “best friendship”, that would start to look very weird, right?
And it should look weird! It doesn’t work! It’s the opposite of relationship.
But there you go… that’s enough to reflect on for now.
I’m glad Riley wrote that message and many, many women have exactly those question.
I wanted to get into it because that mindset comes from fear, and that fear is there because your mind wants to protect you!
So I get it. It’s coming from a good place. What I’m here to tell you is that you can let go of your fear when you know you have a better understanding of what really reaches his heart.
Not what you think reaches his heart.
But just what works, what has real impact.
When you know you really have that, you will know you can drop the fear.
Ironically, though, if you go in with the fear, you’ll never get to see that because you’ll always have your guard up and he will mirror that with his guard up.
This is why I harp on needing to get to the absolute root of things to solve the problems in people’s love life. If you don’t address the fears and mindsets, there’s no amount of tricks and techniques to make up for that.
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